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LeBron opting out!

GangstaE said:
All 3 should have birds rights which is why they decided to have the opt out clause after year 3. They can all opt out to create money for Melo and resign even above cap because of birds right which gives team the right to resign a player that has been with them for 3 years.
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This.

And if you're willing to pay the luxury tax you can pretty much resign every player on your team to a max contract if they all have bird rights. There's really no "hard cap" in the NBA like in the NFL. Just a soft cap and a shit ton of taxes once you reach a certain point past the soft cap.
 
Miami can't sign a FA once the 3 opt out unless its for one of the exceptions. Since they have Bird rights for all 3 guys each one still counts against the cap at 150% or their previous salary. Miami would have to renounce the Bird rights in order to free up room under the cap.
 
Bosh and Wade would be stupid to opt out. They have their rings, now it is about making money. I don't think either would be able to get this type of contract on the open market, although Bosh might be able to if teams decide to overspend on a big man who has admitted to not wanting to play inside.

I just see LeBron trying to stay in the Eastern Conference, before ultimately deciding his best chance to win is with the Clippers or Rockets.
 
JeremyHight said:
Bosh and Wade would be stupid to opt out. They have their rings, now it is about making money. I don't think either would be able to get this type of contract on the open market, although Bosh might be able to if teams decide to overspend on a big man who has admitted to not wanting to play inside.

I just see LeBron trying to stay in the Eastern Conference, before ultimately deciding his best chance to win is with the Clippers or Rockets.
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:joker:

So they tie up even more of the heat money, make it impossible to bring in new talent and run Lebron out of town? Yes, that sounds like the smart plan.
 
I doubt he ends up in Houston or Cleveland. Miami or LA would be my guess

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kkp2420 said:
It would be pretty funny if he ends up back in Cleveland haha
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Apparently Cleveland seeks to think there is a good chance he does... Bit then again I think I have heard that one before.

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This whole FA period is kind of weird. We all know Wade isn't going anywhere so why hasn't he publicly agreed to a deal yet? There isn't even news of him taking a FA visit any where. Houston finally reached out to Bosh and made an offer, which I expected.

I think the Houston offer is just what Riley & company were waiting for. Bosh moves on and then the Heat have the cap room to give Lebron the max and Wade near max with tons of cast to spend on other FAs. They can spin it as Bosh received an offer they couldn't match so they don't look like jerks for cutting him loose.
 
TeflonDonny said:
This whole FA period is kind of weird. We all know Wade isn't going anywhere so why hasn't he publicly agreed to a deal yet? There isn't even news of him taking a FA visit any where. Houston finally reached out to Bosh and made an offer, which I expected.

I think the Houston offer is just what Riley & company were waiting for. Bosh moves on and then the Heat have the cap room to give Lebron the max and Wade near max with tons of cast to spend on other FAs. They can spin it as Bosh received an offer they couldn't match so they don't look like jerks for cutting him loose.
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The reason no superstar has signed yet is because everyone is waiting to see what LeBron does before they decide what they want to do. After he signs all of the other dominoes will fall pretty quickly. As far as Wade is concerned, if LeBron stays in Miami, he would most likely take a huge pay cut down to around 12 mil a year. But if LeBron were to leave, then there is no reason for him not to just take the max at 20.7 mil since there is no way the Heat win without LeBron next year.

For Bosh, you might be right about Riley just shrugging and saying they got outbid. Unless Bosh really wants to try to win more rings with two of his best friends, he might be as good as gone. The Heat just signed Josh McRoberts for 4 years and 22 mil (which takes up most of their remaining cap space if the Big 3 were to return), which worries me that even the Heat think he's gone.
 
Why would they let Bosh go rather than Wade? Keep an aging star around overpaid and end up like the Lakers...

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G-men said:
The reason no superstar has signed yet is because everyone is waiting to see what LeBron does before they decide what they want to do. After he signs all of the other dominoes will fall pretty quickly. As far as Wade is concerned, if LeBron stays in Miami, he would most likely take a huge pay cut down to around 12 mil a year. But if LeBron were to leave, then there is no reason for him not to just take the max at 20.7 mil since there is no way the Heat win without LeBron next year.

For Bosh, you might be right about Riley just shrugging and saying they got outbid. Unless Bosh really wants to try to win more rings with two of his best friends, he might be as good as gone. The Heat just signed Josh McRoberts for 4 years and 22 mil (which takes up most of their remaining cap space if the Big 3 were to return), which worries me that even the Heat think he's gone.
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I feel like those other two parts of the "big 3" are wildly overrated at this point. Bosh says he doesnt want to play in the post anymore and jacks up 3s all game, which would be okay if he wasn't a PF/C. He plays like a 6'11" SG. Tiago and Kawhi absolutely destroyed the Heat because none of their bigs could defend. and Wade? How on earth is Wade still a MAX player? he's only worth around 12 million and his value is going to continue to rapidly diminish.

I have to think LeBron is secretly thinking he would be better off if the Big 3 broke themselves up for him so he doesn't have to look like the bad guy again. He's not solving his problems with that Roster with his two buddies taking up the rest of the cap space.
 
buckeye said:
Why would they let Bosh go rather than Wade? Keep an aging star around overpaid and end up like the Lakers...

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Wade was drafted by the franchise and was a big part of the pre-Lebron championship. Riley can't let him get away if he wants other guys to come. Wade has to retire a member of the Heat.

The time is right for Bosh to move on. He got his money and rings the last few years and now he has a chance to prove he's not a sidekick to Wade and Lebron. If he were to help get a team like Houston to the finals his legacy looks a lot different.
 
buckeye said:
Apparently Cleveland seeks to think there is a good chance he does... Bit then again I think I have heard that one before.

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Imagine all the people that burned his jersey, then he decides to come back lol Would make for an interesting first few home games!
 
kkp2420 said:
Imagine all the people that burned his jersey, then he decides to come back lol Would make for an interesting first few home games!
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He might never be accepted back by the true fans.

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I really don't like that they act like LeBron ever played there. I've been to the Q and there is nothing LeBron hanging up around the arena. All mark price stuff and big z.
 
buckeye said:
Why would they let Bosh go rather than Wade? Keep an aging star around overpaid and end up like the Lakers...

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Wade is a Heat lifer. Would Miami take Bosh over Wade straight up, with all other variables the out the door? Probably. But that doesn't mean they will, and they won't. At least one of the Big 3 is staying in Miami and it's Wade.

Diivox said:
I feel like those other two parts of the "big 3" are wildly overrated at this point. Bosh says he doesnt want to play in the post anymore and jacks up 3s all game, which would be okay if he wasn't a PF/C. He plays like a 6'11" SG. Tiago and Kawhi absolutely destroyed the Heat because none of their bigs could defend. and Wade? How on earth is Wade still a MAX player? he's only worth around 12 million and his value is going to continue to rapidly diminish.

I have to think LeBron is secretly thinking he would be better off if the Big 3 broke themselves up for him so he doesn't have to look like the bad guy again. He's not solving his problems with that Roster with his two buddies taking up the rest of the cap space.
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If you think Wade and Bosh are overrated parts of those Heat championship teams, you're crazy. And again with Wade, is he worth a max deal at this point? Probably not, but if Bosh and LeBron are both gone and Wade says he wants a max deal, the Heat don't say no.
 
If I'm LeBron, I'm ditching the Miami nursing home and going back to Cleveland all day. The opportunity to be successful for the entirety of a contract he'd sign there with the likes of Irving, Wiggins, Thompson, etc. has to be a hell of a lot more appealing than staying in Miami with the corpse of Wade and a 30-year-old Chris Bosh. They were completely outclassed by San Antonio in the finals and are only going to be another year older going forward. I just don't see the appeal if I'm Lebron. It's not a long term winning situation to stay in Miami with the current roster.
 
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