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Madden 09 or NFL 2K5

LMAO people still playing 2K5 with updated Rosters!

I agree with Spydr yall are like Lil Wayne Zombies, or 2K5 Zombies. I played both games and I still liked Madden. Maybe I'm an EA Fan boy maybe I'm not, Yea I hated charging up, that's dumb as hell. Breaking a controller just to sprint? Com'on First Person only works in Shooters, Optional Camera Views for Racing, and Fight Night round 3 (PS3). But this is the beginning and end of my plea. Obviously people who download 2k5 (2008) rosters have an emotional attachment to the game and I don't want nobody getting all emotional on me.
 
I owned both 2k5 and Madden 05 when they came out and I think both were the best football games ever made. I started playing 2k5 again last year and while it was still a good game, some things I just didn't like. The turbo, like others said, was annoying. Running the ball was GREAT but I hated the passing. The way the players moved just felt awkward as well, too much momentum and they felt too heavy (it's like this with all 2k games though).

If I had to choose between 09 and 2k5, I would pick 09 just because I'm much better at it and more comfortable with the Madden style of play. But if I were to review both games in their respective years, 2k5 would get the better rating. More people would feel better going back to 2k5 then they would Madden 05, it was almost ahead of it's time.
 
2K5 is one of the best football games I've ever played. and to the people saying that '09 kills 2K5. Imagine if the question was Madden '09 vs. 2K9.........
 
How is this even happening? Seriously guys?

Tapping the button to sprint was annoying as fuck, if you "charged up" you could break every tackle, the players grunted like they were dying every play, the presentation was identical every game and I skipped it after I saw it the first few times, the Crib was insanely dumb (play a game against Carmen Electra? Really?), first-person football is as much of a joke as Superstar mode is in Madden, and LAST BUT NOT LEAST... ESPN 2k5 isn't even the best of the series (2k2 was).

I'd go on, but I feel like I'm having a "who's the best rapper ever" conversation with a bunch of Lil Wayne fans.

winner.
 
Every year madden takes out little things that make the game seem more realistic. For instance, why are there no half-time reports, it doesn't have to be anything complicated just a few stupid commentary lines and a couple of replays. Why did madden take out the players coming out of the tunnel like it had in '08.
That had nothing to do with the actual gameplay but that always got me pumped for a big game.
There's not even a player of the game anymore.....



Superstar and Franchise in Madden are both the same thing over and over and it's pointless.
I remember in 2K5 you won games and points to buy things for your mansion, that was badass. I can't tell you how many games I played and how long I waited to get that "paper football" table.
Then all of the useless furniture and TV's, even though it had nothinig to do with the actual gameplay those little things made it that much funner to play.


Hell forget 2K5, I'm my opinion Madden '03-7(PS2)>Madden next gen.

Some major Differences:


OLD GEN: back in the day if I needed to work on my userpick skillz I could just go to mini-games and play the INT Drill, that helped alot. All of the drills in the old-gen somehow helped your real madden skills.
CURRENT GEN:Now If I want to work on my userpick I'd have to go to Maddens QB drill, select 1 player on Defense and there's only a 1/4 chance that the QB will throw my way and give me an oppurtunity to make a play on the Ball to get some actual practice reps. Then there are the drills that are completely pointless like the Bench Press or the 40 Yd Dash.

OLD GEN: If I wanted to work on a new offensive scheme or test out some new teams I could go to the 2-minute drill and play against a real CPU Defense that reacts to the situation. Plus it gives you a good look if you need to compare 2 teams. For instance I can try running on the Pats D with the chargers, and then right after that try running on them with the Saints. That way I could compare the 2 running games against the same D.
NEW GEN: I have to go to practice mode and play against a random D that has no sense of a game. For instance there's no first down maker for them to play off of. Most of all it's kinda hard to test out a scheme when you have to constantly go to the playcall screen.

OLD GEN: In practice mode you had more options like "random running/passing play out of "" formation" or "all random pass/run plays"
NEW GEN: all there really is is "random play". This may sound stupid but to somebody who labs alot, this is a big deal.


Every year madden is taking out more and more good things and replacing them with stupid things like "backtracker" or "rewind". What's with the stupid Weapons system? If someone needs a shoe under Willie Parker to tell them that he's fast then they don't need to be playing madden.


The actuall gameplay of madden may be better but you don't pop in a football game and only have the option of "quick match". There are other options and features that need to be attended to, and that is where madden fails and I think 2K5 is better.

To all the people that are saying that it's not even close, imagine if the question was Madden '09 vs. 2K9.....................
 
why are there no half-time reports, it doesn't have to be anything complicated just a few stupid commentary lines and a couple of replays.

They already have a couple replays at the half, and why would you add stupid commentary lines? You're saying you want like a half-time show? I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I'd watch it once, then wish they used that time elsewhere.


Why did madden take out the players coming out of the tunnel like it had in '08.
That had nothing to do with the actual gameplay but that always got me pumped for a big game.

They switched it up with a view of the stadium, players coming out of the helmets, and fireworks. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but if they make the same entrance they made last year, people would complain and say it wasn't fresh.


I remember in 2K5 you won games and points to buy things for your mansion, that was badass. I can't tell you how many games I played and how long I waited to get that "paper football" table.

Yeah, and how often did you actually use that paper football table? In fact, how much time did you spend in your "house" at all? And you get points in Madden when you win games as well.


Then all of the useless furniture and TV's, even though it had nothinig to do with the actual gameplay those little things made it that much funner to play.

That's exactly what it is: useless. I'd rather see more improvements elsewhere than an attempt to recreate the Sims.


OLD GEN: In practice mode you had more options like "random running/passing play out of "" formation" or "all random pass/run plays"
NEW GEN: all there really is is "random play". This may sound stupid but to somebody who labs alot, this is a big deal.

This is a great point. The drills and two-minute drill are debatable, but this absolutely needs to be brought back.


To all the people that are saying that it's not even close, imagine if the question was Madden '09 vs. 2K9.....................

I'll base my answer off a logic statement.

Madden 05 > NFL 2k5. Therefore, Madden 09 > NFL 2k9.

It's the old theory of quitting while you're ahead. Of course 2k5 will have the illusion that it's better, because it won a quick pot and left the building on top. Madden has been building its stack for years, but you're going to lose a couple hands once in a while. If you look at what Madden has done, it's light years ahead of 2k, and it shows when its product is more than double the price of the competition, yet it still sells way more copies.
 
can you get updated rosters for 2k5 on a ps2? I might buy it for ps2 if I can get updated rosters
 
They switched it up with a view of the stadium, players coming out of the helmets, and fireworks. I'm sorry you didn't like it, but if they make the same entrance they made last year, people would complain and say it wasn't fresh.
Why? I don't know anyone who thinks that this years pre-game scene was better than last years.




Yeah, and how often did you actually use that paper football table? In fact, how much time did you spend in your "house" at all? And you get points in Madden when you win games as well.
That's exactly what it is: useless. I'd rather see more improvements elsewhere than an attempt to recreate the Sims.
2K5 had a solid game and it threw in these extras for people who might like them. You can tell that the developers from 2K5 didn't take away from the actual gameplay to add in the mansion stuff.
In madden they never really add anything to the game year after year, they just swap features. Like ok, we'll give you smart routes back but we'll take away the QB Cone. We'll give you a virtual training room, but we'll have to take away the 2-minute drill to do this. We had to make room for are 40 YD Dash so we had to get rid of the Linemen pass rush drill.





Madden has all the chips to be the perfect Football game but the developers never go all in, they always hold back.

Now imagine '09 if It had:

The franchise mode from '03-'06
The Old Gen drills that actually helped your skillz
The 2-minute drill that it used to have
The old Practice Features
QB Cone(more of an opinion thing) that it used to have
You know what else I loved about madden on the old gen that I always forget about? That madden 101 thing. They actually took you unto a practice field and broke down plays for people who didn't know too much and wanted to learn the basics to becomming a real good player. They showed you what the play was designed to do and it even showed where your reads should be. It even had a commentary with it. One that has a great "football for dummies" section that will help people of all skillz.......Now that's a football game feature if I've ever seen one.

All the EA Developers would have to do is look at the public reaction of these old features or even start a poll on their site to see what features people have liked the most in the past. Now imagine if you combined '03-'09 keeping the pros and getting rid of the cons.



Come on though seriously, what was the main focus point of this years game? From what I saw at E3, their whole selling point was the stupid backtracker, the rewind system, and the madden IQ. Now of these 3 features which one actually makes the game more enjoyable for the hardcore madden player.......

All madden is doing is getting rid of good features, throwing in bullshit ones to occupy our time, and then bringing the old good features back and using them as "selling points" for their game. Like they did this year with the smart routes and like they probaly will soon with the QB Cone




Since 2K can't make new football games to compare to new madden games, lets' look at the area where they are able to compete........
When I decided to buy B-ball I brought 2K9 not because it looked good but because NBA Live looked stupid as hell.
WTFs with all this DNA, Cold/Hot Streaks, made fresh daily(lol) shit. So you telling me that if T-Mac has a horribly game, when I go to play an online game
that same day he will suck and miss like 80% of his shots? So we're only as good as the real player who plays that day, that's stupid. That right there sold me to 2K9. Then when I went to play the demo 2K9 takes you straight into the game and NBA Live makes you watch a video showcasing their new features. Hmmm the demo is stupid and pointless, remimds me of the demo for a certain football game I know.....

2K9 is lightyears ahead of Live and I'm sure that if they would have kept making football games 2K9 would be lightyears ahead of Madden.

I'm sure Live thought it features were going to be cool but NBA 2K9 makes Live look like a joke. Not to mention the fact that Live is only 40 bucks now, I'm guessing it's because they're getting their ass kicked in sales.
The same goes for EA in madden, I'm sure they think there new features are cool but the only difference is that they don't have any other football game to make them look like a joke. They can throw whatever the hell they want in the game and people have no other options because it's an Monopoly.


The end of the story is the EA developers for Madden are a joke. Why do you think they brought the exclusive license rights? I'm pretty sure they know that there game is horrible and that's why they don't want any competention.
 
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2k5 is so much better in every way but graphics. To see 2k5, a video game that is 5 years old, in the discussion is just pathetic. EA took away so many features just to add graphics. Gameplay > Graphics anyday.
 
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