Mariners Nation 2012

[Sigona]

Lmao, Alex Liddi plays major league baseball? Shit. I remember watching him in the WBC with the Italian squad. Forza Italia!

 

[West]

Really proud of Carp...wasn't highly thought of in that trade for Putz but he's come into his own and I really followed him as he was a former Met farmhand...is he slated to get some starting time in LF maybe? or DH??...i'm pretty sure u don't wanna see Carp in 3B...lol

Carp looks to play LF, 1B and DH as he fits in. He hasn't earned an every day starting job even though he probably deserves one. Casper Wells and Trayvon Robinson are competing in LF and the franchise already has too much invested in Justin Smoak to take away his starting job at first. With Jesus Montero looking to DH, im not really sure how much playing time Carp is going to find himself getting, but im hoping for the best

 

[Bomberooski]

West, how do the Mariners win games this year with this roster? I just can't get into it yet.

 

[strahanfan92]

^This guy clearly hasn't seen Moneyball.

 

[Bomberooski]

^This guy clearly hasn't seen Moneyball.

I've seen Moneyball but the owner in Moneyball cared about the team. Our owner has been to ZERO games. ZERO. He has never once been to a Mariners game...

 

[West]

West, how do the Mariners win games this year with this roster? I just can't get into it yet.

I guess the sad reality of it is that we probably wont

I think what characterizes this season in particular is getting the opportunity to watch an enormous amount of young talent develop. Jack Z has set this up to be the team of the future, and if his moves play out like we are hoping, we very well could be. This has got to be the youngest team in the major leagues, but the potential for growth over the next few years is huge

We traded away Cliff for Justin Smoak, who isnt a favorite of mine but had the baseball pundits and bloggers going crazy. We have invested a lot into him, and once he finds his sweet spot hes suppose to be a 30 HR a season type of guy. I can dig it.

Dustin Ackley easily has the potential to become one of the premier second baseman in this league. We spent a second overall pick on him in 2009 andwith good reason. Ack Attack will be greatness

Brendan Ryan is the man at shortstop

Third base needs work. Liddi isnt ready and Figgins isnt the man

Olivo has some pop in his bat still and is a capable catcher, and Jesus has come to Seattle to DH and occasionally catch as well. With young guys like Mike Carp and Casper Wells, we are definitely starting to acquire some guys who have the capability to hit it out of the park. Sort of

Like always, I think we are going to have to ride our pitching. We know King Felix will do well for us, so we need to cross our fingers that guys like Vargas and Iwakuma play well. From there we'll just see what happens I guess. Maybe these kids can get it together and give us an exciting run afterall

 

[West]

But watch this

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ95AuRti1s"]Brendan Ryan talks about his moustache - YouTube[/ame]

 

[West]

check out the newest smiley! : kuma :



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d3t27GaLsA"]Japanese pitcher Hisashi Iwakuma - YouTube[/ame]

the rangers suck and yu darvish sucks. the bear will be better

:kuma:

 

[NAHSTE]

If you dont like the mariners you are still welcome to join this topical discussion, unless you like the rangers.

Yu mad bro?

 

[West]

SEATTLE -- Looking to further bolster their bullpen, the Mariners signed veteran free-agent relievers Shawn Camp and Hong-Chih Kuo to non-guaranteed one-year Major League contracts on Monday.

To make room on the 40-man roster, the Mariners designated outfielder Mike Wilson and catcher Chris Gimenez for assignment and will now have 10 days to trade, release or outright their contracts.

Kuo, a 30-year-old lefty from Taiwan, was a 2010 All-Star for the Dodgers and posted a 3.73 ERA over seven seasons in Los Angeles, but was released after elbow problems and an "anxiety" issue left him with a 9.00 ERA in 40 appearances last season.

When healthy, Kuo was one of the Majors' top relievers with a 1.96 ERA in three seasons from 2008-10, when he allowed 110 hits with 201 strikeouts and 52 walks over 170 innings. The 6-foot-2, 240-pounder had a 1.20 ERA with 12 saves in 2010, when his ERA was the 11th lowest by a reliever in Major League history (minimum 60 innings pitched) and his .139 opponents' batting average was the fifth lowest in MLB history.

The right-handed Camp, 36, appeared in a team-high 67 games for the Blue Jays last year while posting a 6-3 record with a 4.21 ERA and one save in 66 1/3 innings.

Camp has pitched in 196 games in relief over the past three years, third-most in the American League in that span behind only the D-backs' Craig Breslow (219 while with Oakland) and the Mariners' Brandon League (202 with Toronto and Seattle).

Camp has pitched 432 games -- all out of the bullpen -- in eight Major League seasons with the Royals (2004-05), Rays (2006-07) and Blue Jays (2008-11). His career record is 25-26 with a 4.40 ERA and 10 saves and he went 15-13 with a 3.63 ERA over the past four seasons in Toronto.

Welcome to Mariners nation!

 

[BiggaAdams]

Prospective Depth Chart-

Catcher-
Miguel Olivo

First Base-
Justin Smoak

Second Base-
Dustin Ackley

Short Stop-
Brendan Ryan

Third Base-
Alex Liddi

Left Field-
Casper Wells

Center Field-
Franklin Gutierrez

Right Field-
Ichiro

Liddi will start season in AAA.

Seager will start at 3rd base.

really interested in seeing what Guti does this year. He's up 19lbs and has been able to control his illness. If he doesn't come with the bat, you'll see Carp in LF, Wells in CF and Guti off the bench.

Carp needs consistent AB's.

 

[BiggaAdams]

^This guy clearly hasn't seen Moneyball.

Moneyball is built around guys taking walks, something the Mariner's DO NOT DO

West, how do the Mariners win games this year with this roster? I just can't get into it yet.

We don't win games this year. We'll see an improvement but next season is when we can be a threat with Hultzen in rotation full time.

Very concerned with Vargas being our #2. This season.

 

[BiggaAdams]

Thanks West.

I'm all for him hitting 3rd.

I'm also all for Dave Sims losing the stupid hats

No way am I for Ichiro batting 1st, 2nd or 3rd.

Ichiro too much of a risk to GIDP.

7,8,9 would be a lot better

 

[Bomberooski]

Moneyball is built around guys taking walks, something the Mariner's DO NOT DO

I liked when Yuni used to not even take one ball let alone a walk...

 

[BiggaAdams]

I liked when Yuni used to not even take one ball let alone a walk...

Hated Yuni so much.

I hope we see Ackley as the leadoff hitter this season with Montero/Smoak as 3/4

 

[BiggaAdams]

Ryan Rowland-Smith is currently the ace for the Sydney Blue Sox of the Australian Baseball League

:truestory:

He just signed with the Cubs. If he can't get his FB to 91mph, he's done in the Majors.

 

[West]

:beachy:

How does the addition of Hisashi Iwakuma going to reflect the Mariners lineup this season?

That's a good question Mr Beachy

With pitchers and catchers set to report to camp in just over a week now on Feb. 11, that's a question that will soon begin to take shape. I think we can all agree it's pretty safe to pencil Felix Hernandez in as the No. 1 starter. In fact, with the odd start to the year with two games in Japan and then a week before resuming regular-season play in Oakland, he should start the first and third games of the season.

At this point, Jason Vargas pencils in as the No. 2 starter. After that, things get interesting. If he's healthy and pitches well in camp, Iwakuma could well be the No. 3 man. Manager Eric Wedge is very high on non-roster invitee Kevin Millwood, an established veteran who pitched for him in Cleveland, and will give him every chance to earn a spot. At this point, I'd put Iwakuma, Millwood and Hector Noesi, the young right-hander acquired in the Michael Pineda trade, in a toss-up for the Nos. 3-4-5 spots.

:kuma:

 

[Tengo Juego]

Hated Yuni so much.

I hope we see Ackley as the leadoff hitter this season with Montero/Smoak as 3/4

There's really no one better to lead off. Figgy sucks, Ichiro... well I don't know. I hate to think he's slowing down and regressing. But it sure looked like it.

 

[BiggaAdams]

There's really no one better to lead off. Figgy sucks, Ichiro... well I don't know. I hate to think he's slowing down and regressing. But it sure looked like it.

Ackley is so quick to 1st, hits the gaps and has a great eye, but he also could be valuable at #3 right now too.

Figgy sucks, but they are giving him one last chance. He has a pretty good eye, they are hoping getting back to leadoff potentially can help him recover but I highly doubt it.

Ichiro had a lot of shit going on last year with the whole Tsunami. He was dropping fly balls he never drops. I think he could recover a bit but he refuses to walk and Wedge doesn't play that .

 

[West]