Mel Kiper put out a new Mock today (4/9)

[corbin]

Save us Dave.

I don't know what I will do to myself without Mel Kipers new Mock.

 

[steeljake]

somebody link me and i will post it...

 

[Woy]

I got a call from my friend who is a Redskins fan when this showed on Sportscenter. They have Washington now taking Mark Sanchez with the 13th pick in the draft, but that's all I know about Kiper's newest mock.

 

[Woy]

Yeah, you can read that one. He has Denver taking Jackson at #12 (Like basically everyone does), but he doesn't say where they might go at #18.

Yeah I just noticed that. He'll probably have the Titans taking a defensive lineman over a receiver or corner like usual. As for the Broncos, I don't know who'd he choose for them at #18. Someone with insider post this!

 

[Hasselbeck]

Anyway.. someone posted this on the Seahawk board I frequent.. only 1 round of 4 though.. don't have the rest sorry..


1. Detroit Lions (Record: 0-16)

Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia: Stafford is worthy of being the No. 1 overall pick, thanks to his overall skill set.

2. St. Louis Rams (2-14)

Jason Smith, OT, Baylor: The OT spot is strong at the top with Smith, a former tight end who is supremely athletic and exactly what you want in a left tackle: someone you can count on to protect the blind side of your quarterback.

3. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14)

Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest: He's a complete OLB with great character and work ethic, which is why it was no surprise when he nailed his combine workout.

4. Seattle Seahawks (4-12)

Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia: Monroe is just a shade below Jason Smith in my opinion, but is a legit top-five pick.

5. Cleveland Browns (4-12)

Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech: The stress fracture in his left foot shouldn't affect his draft status. He's a big-time player who should have a Larry Fitzgerald-type career in the NFL.

6. Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1)

Andre Smith, OT, Alabama: Smith has to manage his weight in order to remain on the left side. If he doesn't, he's a mauler at right tackle who could really assist the running game and do the job at that spot in pass protection. Hopefully, he'll maximize his skills in the NFL by paying more attention to detail. If he doesn't, you're looking at a major bust.

7. Oakland Raiders (5-11)

Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri: Maclin will have to adjust to an NFL offense, but I really like his big-play capability and the fact that he's much more explosive with the pads on than his 4.46-second 40-yard dash at the combine would lead you to believe.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11)

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas: I view Orakpo as a 4-3 end with the ability to also play on his feet in a 3-4 as an attacking outside linebacker. He is super-athletic and incredibly strong, but there is concern about his durability.

9. Green Bay Packers (6-10)

B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College: Raji is the top defensive tackle in this draft.

10. San Francisco 49ers (7-9)

Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State: Maybin is another combo-type who is explosive out of the blocks and relentless in his pursuit of the quarterback.

11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)

Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee: Ayers enjoyed a solid season in the SEC and then was one of the standouts during Senior Bowl week. He ran the 40 in 4.80 at the combine, though, which could give some teams pause.

12. Denver Broncos (8-8)

Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU: Jackson would be ideal in a 3-4, thanks to his ability to shift inside in passing situations.

13. Washington Redskins (8-8)

Mark Sanchez, QB, USC: Sanchez definitely is one of the top five to eight players available in this draft, and getting him here would be a bit of a steal, because had he returned to USC for his senior season, he likely would have been the No. 1 overall pick.

14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)

Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State: Wells is a nice fit for the Saints after they let running back Deuce McAllister go in the offseason. He could be a perfect complement to Reggie Bush.

15. Houston Texans (8-8)

Brian Cushing, OLB, USC: Cushing's ability to fit both inside and outside is the reason I've always viewed him as a surefire first-rounder.

16. San Diego Chargers (8-8)

Rey Maualuga, LB, USC: Maualuga is capable of becoming a quality "Mike" linebacker in the NFL, but needs to use his hands better to ward off blocks and must be more consistent from week to week.

17. New York Jets (9-7)

Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland: Heyward-Bey's awesome size-speed ratio should win out here and give the Jets the kind of receiver they need to open up the passing game.

18. Denver Broncos (from Chicago) (8-8)

Everette Brown, DE, Florida State: Brown could make an immediate impact in the Broncos' defense because of his strong skill set.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7)

Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State: Freeman is an interesting prospect because he throws a great ball and has imposing size at nearly 6-foot-6 and 245 pounds. However, his inconsistent play puts him in the boom-or-bust category.

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) (0-16)

Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi: Oher is one of the more intriguing prospects in the draft. He's loaded with talent and can dominate the defense he's working against, but he also seems to have lapses in concentration when he struggles to keep his opponents at bay.

21. Philadelphia Eagles (9-6-1)

Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia: There isn't anything remotely close to the talent and depth at running back available in the draft last year, but Moreno is a good fit for the Eagles at this spot.

22. Minnesota Vikings (10-6)

Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers: Britt has a ton of talent and is just beginning to scratch the surface of his potential.

23. New England Patriots (11-5)

Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut: Brown could end up being one of the more productive rookie backs in 2009 because of his all-around skills and tremendous character.

24. Atlanta Falcons (11-5)

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State: Pettigrew remains the No. 1 tight end on the board and would be a help to young Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan.

25. Miami Dolphins (11-5)

Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State: Jenkins has all the qualities you look for, with the exception of top-flight recovery speed, which is an obvious concern. Even so, he's too good an overall performer to pass up in the middle of the first round.

26. Baltimore Ravens (11-5)

Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois: Davis is an impressive physical specimen, but he lacked consistency with the Illini, not always performing at the elite level you would expect from a player with his natural talent and ability. He'll be a gamble.

27. Indianapolis Colts (12-4)

Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi: Jerry is a very underrated prospect, and would be a good fit in the Indianapolis scheme.

28. Philadelphia Eagles (from 12-4 CAR) (9-6-1)

Eben Britton, OT, Arizona: Britton could be a good fit for the Eagles' offensive line, although I would have liked to see him return for his senior year.

29. New York Giants (12-4)

Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina: Nicks won't wow you in a workout, but on game day he makes the tough catches and is the type of player who wants the ball thrown his way in clutch situations.

30. Tennessee Titans (13-3)

Percy Harvin, WR, Florida: Harvin reminds me of the Reggie Bush we now see with the Saints. You can utilize Harvin in a number of ways, and, like Bush, he's a scoreboard-changer. However, he also carries the same durability concerns as Bush.

31. Arizona Cardinals (9-7)

Larry English, LB, Northern Illinois: English set the all-time sack record at Northern Illinois, and could be an impact player in Arizona.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers (12-4)

Eric Wood, C, Louisville: Wood has been a player on the rise of late, and with his size and skills he could find himself a Steeler for a very long time.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Please let Kiper and his hair be completely wrong.

 

[Obst]

Yeah Mel did a great job assessing the Jaguars pick. We spend our first two picks in the draft last year going after pass rushers, so lets spend another first round pick on one this year when we have way bigger needs to address. I've never liked Mel Kiper and never will.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

ill get ya, im an insider, one sec

 

[chazmaniandevil]

Second round
33. Detroit Lions: James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio St.

34. New England Patriots (from KC) : Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati

35. St. Louis Rams: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut

36. Cleveland Browns: Clay Matthews, LB, USC

37. Seattle Seahawks: William Moore, S, Missouri

38. Cincinnati Bengals: Alex Mack, C, California

39. Jacksonville Jaguars: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio St.

40. Oakland Raiders: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma

41. Green Bay Packers: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut

42. Buffalo Bills: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina

43. San Francisco 49ers: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest

44. Miami Dolphins (from Washington): Jarron Gilbert, DL, San Jose St.

45. New York Giants (from New Orleans): Shawn Nelson, TE, So. Mississippi

46. Houston Texans: Ziggy Hood, DT, Missouri

47. New England Patriots (from San Diego): Sean Smith, CB, Utah

48. Denver Broncos: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College

49. Chicago Bears: Mohamed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia

50. Cleveland Browns (from Tampa Bay): LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh

51. Dallas Cowboys: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan

52. New York Jets: Andre Brown, RB, North Carolina St.

53. Philadelphia Eagles: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech

54. Minnesota Vikings: Max Unger, C, Oregon

55. Atlanta Falcons: Sherrod Martin, DB, Troy

56. Miami Dolphins: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia

57. Baltimore Ravens: Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma

58. New England Patriots: Pat White, WR, West Virginia

59. Carolina Panthers: Roy Miller, DT, Texas

60. New York Giants: Kaluka Maiava, LB, USC

61. Indianapolis Colts: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn St.

62. Tennessee Titans: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt

63. Arizona Cardinals: Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa

64. Pittsburgh Steelers: Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon
Third round

65. Detroit: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon

66. St. Louis : Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond

67. Kansas City: Andy Levitre, OL, Oregon St.

68. Seattle : Donald Washington, CB, Ohio St.

69. Dallas (from Cleveland): Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly

70. Cincinnati: Paul Kruger, DE, Utah

71. Oakland: Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama

72. Jacksonville: Bradley Fletcher, CB, Iowa

73. Green Bay: Cody Brown, LB, Connecticut

74. San Francisco: Darcel McBath, S, Texas Tech

75. Buffalo: T.J. Lang, OL, Eastern Michigan

76. New York Jets (from New Orleans): Richard Quinn, TE, North Carolina

77. Houston Texans: Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon St.

78. San Diego: Jamon Meredith, OL, South Carolina

79. Denver: Asher Allen, CB, Georgia

80. Washington: Kyle Moore, DE, USC

81. Tampa Bay: Alex Magee , DT, Purdue

82. Detroit (from Dallas): Fili Moala, DT, USC

83. Green Bay (from New York Jets): Tony Fiammetta, FB, Syracuse

84. Denver (from Chicago): Louis Murphy, WR, Florida

85. Philadelphia: Deon Butler, WR, Penn St.

86. Minnesota: Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma

87. Miami: Cedric Peerman, RB, Virginia

88. Baltimore : Anthony Hill, TE, North Carolina St.

89. New England: Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida

90. Atlanta: Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama

91. New York Giants: Tyronne Green, OG, Auburn

92. Indianapolis : Jason Phillips, LB, TCU

93. Carolina: Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin

94. Tennessee: Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio St.

95. Arizona: Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri

96. Pittsburgh: Quinten Lawrence, WR, McNeese St.

97. New England (comp selection): Scott McKillop, LB, Pittsburgh

98. Cincinnati (comp selection): Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

99. Chicago (comp selection): Chris Clemons, S, Clemson

100. New York Giants (comp selection): Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama

Fourth round

101. Dallas (from Detroit): Ladarius Webb, DB, Nicholls St.

102. Kansas City : Dannell Ellerbe, LB, Georgia

103. St. Louis: Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian

104. Cleveland : Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.

105. Seattle: James Davis, RB, Clemson

106. Cincinnati: Quinn Johnson, FB, LSU

107. Jacksonville: Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston St.

108. Miami (from Oakland): Brandon Tate, WR, North Carolina

109. Green Bay: Zack Follett, LB, California

110. Buffalo: Michael Hamlin, S, Clemson

111. San Francisco: Mike Goodson, RB, Texas A&M

112. Houston: David Veikune, DE, Hawaii

113. San Diego: Emanuel Cook, S, South Carolina

114. Denver: Chip Vaughn, S, Wake Forest

115. New York Jets (from Washington): Mitch King, DL, Iowa

116. New Orleans: Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida

117. Dallas: Herman Johnson, OG, LSU

118. New Orleans (from N.Y. Jets): A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn St.

119. Chicago: Christopher Owens, CB, San Jose St.

120. Tampa Bay: Austin Collie, WR, BYU

121. Philadelphia: James Casey, TE, Rice

122. Houston (from Minnesota): Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona

123. Baltimore: Darry Beckwith, LB, LSU

124. New England: Dan Gay, OT, Baylor

125. Atlanta: Brandon Gibson, WR, Washington St.

126. Oakland (from Miami): Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn St.

127. Indianapolis: Javon Ringer, RB, Michigan St.

128. Carolina : Mike Wallace, WR, Mississippi

129. New York Giants: Gregory Toler, CB, St. Paul's

130. Tennessee: Louis Vasquez, OG, Texas Tech

131. Arizona: Corvey Irvin, DT, Georgia

132. Pittsburgh: Sen'Derrick Marks, DL, Auburn

133. San Diego (comp selection): Ellis Lankster, CB, West Virginia

134. San Diego (comp selection): Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson

135. Tennessee (comp selection): Terrance Taylor, DT, Michigan

136. Indianapolis (comp selection): Jonathan Casillas, LB, Wisconsin

 

[Leftwich]

I really don't like his Jacksonville picks.

 

[Obst]

Yeah me neither, I think if Sanchez is still there at 8 then we are going to trade back. Then with trading back hopefully we can draft Malcolm Jenkins in the first round, I wouldn't mind either Robiskie or Britt in the second round, then with trading back we will aquire another pick around the 3rd and with that I would hope that Ron Brace is still there and then go after another WR like Mohamed Massaquoi or Brandon Tate.

 

[f16harm]

If the Pats take Jenkins we can take Vontae Davis. I'd be just as happy with that pick.

In the second I like Gilbert and I've been a big fan of Sintim. Tate in the 4th would be a nice pick up.

Kiper, you made me smile.

I'd be happier. Jenkins is a safety in the NFL, not a CB. We just signed Y.Bell and G.Wilson to at least 3 year deals, we don't need a safety to groom. I don't think we have to worry about it anyway, I don't see Miami taking Jenkins even if he is there.

Also, if Darius Butler is there at the Pats #1 pick, I bet they take him. I have heard they are secretly in love with the kid as Belichick as been reviewing him extra close.

This mock pretty much sucks, and I think it shows Kiper's desperation to try and be perfect in his guesses and analyses....because he knows his time at ESPN is short. Todd McShay will be replacing him in the near future.

 

[DomePatrol]

no way. I refuse to think we take beanie. Ill cry....again.

 

[Senser81]

This mock pretty much sucks, and I think it shows Kiper's desperation to try and be perfect in his guesses and analyses....because he knows his time at ESPN is short. Todd McShay will be replacing him in the near future.

Yeah, I think Kiper has seen the handwriting on the wall. Other people have finally figured out that you don't need any special skills/qualifications to be a 'draft expert', and now we are starting to see more 'draft experts' crop up. I still don't quite understand what Kiper does exactly...I used to think he was like a 'scout', rating players on their pro potential. But even then I was skeptical, because he used ESPN-speak a lot (i.e. said a lot of buzzwords which, taken literally, made no real sense), like "I don't think Jeff George is a prototypical QB (uh, big, strong-armed QBs AREN'T the prototype?), but I like David Klingler's potential (why? Wouldn't George have more potential than Klingler?).

I now think that Kiper is and always has been a gossip-monger. He's kinda like a draft version of Chris Mortenson. He picks up on what he hears from NFL scouts and GMs, and then adjusts "his" ratings accordingly. I've seen Kiper rank Mark Sanchez as the last pick in the 1st round, the 1st overall pick, and now a mid-1st round pick. How could Sanchez's ranking change so much if Kiper is actually ranking the players himself?

 

[Helicopter]

Yeah, I think Kiper has seen the handwriting on the wall. Other people have finally figured out that you don't need any special skills/qualifications to be a 'draft expert', and now we are starting to see more 'draft experts' crop up. I still don't quite understand what Kiper does exactly...I used to think he was like a 'scout', rating players on their pro potential. But even then I was skeptical, because he used ESPN-speak a lot (i.e. said a lot of buzzwords which, taken literally, made no real sense), like "I don't think Jeff George is a prototypical QB (uh, big, strong-armed QBs AREN'T the prototype?), but I like David Klingler's potential (why? Wouldn't George have more potential than Klingler?).

I now think that Kiper is and always has been a gossip-monger. He's kinda like a draft version of Chris Mortenson. He picks up on what he hears from NFL scouts and GMs, and then adjusts "his" ratings accordingly. I've seen Kiper rank Mark Sanchez as the last pick in the 1st round, the 1st overall pick, and now a mid-1st round pick. How could Sanchez's ranking change so much if Kiper is actually ranking the players himself?

Yea, I agree with you, Senser. This is a perfect example. A few weeks ago, Kiper didn't even have Robert Ayers going in the first round. And now, with his recent "stock rise", he has him going all the way up to #11? Not that much has changed in Ayers' ability in the last few weeks, but the "buzz" about him has increased. Kiper just leeches and preys on the thoughts of others and incorporates them into his own little schtick.

11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)

Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee: Ayers enjoyed a solid season in the SEC and then was one of the standouts during Senior Bowl week. He ran the 40 in 4.80 at the combine, though, which could give some teams pause.

 

[FirstTimer]

Yea, I agree with you, Senser. This is a perfect example. A few weeks ago, Kiper didn't even have Robert Ayers going in the first round. And now, with his recent "stock rise", he has him going all the way up to #11? Not that much has changed in Ayers' ability in the last few weeks, but the "buzz" about him has increased. Kiper just leeches and preys on the thoughts of others and incorporates them into his own little schtick.

Isn't that what he's supposed to do though? I find it funny peopel sit here and wait anxiously for mocks to come out then when they see them rip into them and bash on Kiper for "not knowing what he is talking about" etc. If people feel that way why even wait anxiously for new mocks?

On the subject of listening to buzz, shouldn't Kiper do that in order to create good mocks? Just because Kiper has him going #11 overall does that mean Kiper personally thinks he should or does it mean that based on what he is hearing from sources/team needs that the player will go there?

If Kiper listend only to his scouting and created mocks based on it then you'd have the same people in here saying..."How can Kiper say this? The buzz/rumor/etc is that the Bills are looking at So and So." Either way some idiot will be pissed or have an issue.

I tend not to pay much attention to Kiper on ESPN because him and McShay get into douche offs. I prefer to read his draft guides etc that his company puts together. Good stuff.

 

[Senser81]

Isn't that what he's supposed to do though? I find it funny peopel sit here and wait anxiously for mocks to come out then when they see them rip into them and bash on Kiper for "not knowing what he is talking about" etc. If people feel that way why even wait anxiously for new mocks?

On the subject of listening to buzz, shouldn't Kiper do that in order to create good mocks? Just because Kiper has him going #11 overall does that mean Kiper personally thinks he should or does it mean that based on what he is hearing from sources/team needs that the player will go there?

If Kiper listend only to his scouting and created mocks based on it then you'd have the same people in here saying..."How can Kiper say this? The buzz/rumor/etc is that the Bills are looking at So and So." Either way some idiot will be pissed or have an issue.

I tend not to pay much attention to Kiper on ESPN because him and McShay get into douche offs. I prefer to read his draft guides etc that his company puts together. Good stuff.

It all depends on what you think Kiper should be. That was the point of my posting...is he an independent scout (the role which Kiper has ALWAYS claimed to be) or is he like a Chris Mortensen, just listening to what other GMs and Scouts are saying and adjusting his rankings accordingly?

I agree with your point that if Kiper is going to be making daily updates of a mock draft, then only a fool would ignore what the GMs and teams are saying. I guess my point is that it would be more impressive IMO if Kiper was like a 'superscout' instead of a gossip-monger, and it would be more interesting if Kiper gave his thoughts on the prospects independent of 'mock draft updates', and also put more emphasis on how well he's projected past draft prospects.

 

[Helicopter]

Isn't that what he's supposed to do though? I find it funny peopel sit here and wait anxiously for mocks to come out then when they see them rip into them and bash on Kiper for "not knowing what he is talking about" etc. If people feel that way why even wait anxiously for new mocks?

On the subject of listening to buzz, shouldn't Kiper do that in order to create good mocks? Just because Kiper has him going #11 overall does that mean Kiper personally thinks he should or does it mean that based on what he is hearing from sources/team needs that the player will go there?

If Kiper listend only to his scouting and created mocks based on it then you'd have the same people in here saying..."How can Kiper say this? The buzz/rumor/etc is that the Bills are looking at So and So." Either way some idiot will be pissed or have an issue.

I tend not to pay much attention to Kiper on ESPN because him and McShay get into douche offs. I prefer to read his draft guides etc that his company puts together. Good stuff.

lol...I don't really care for those "douche offs" either.

For me, it just irritates me the way that Kiper always has such drastic changes in his mocks (and I really don't follow all these mocks too closely...I think they are rather pointless and more often than not, not close to what actually happens on draft day). McShay seems to stand by his reasons to why he thinks the way he does...and he usually has a better argument when engaging in said douche offs with Kiper. Kiper just yells and gets pissed off thinking that by doing it that he comes off as right and more credible.

To be honest, I just really don't like mock drafts. There are so many of them out there now that one of them is bound to be right.

 

[FirstTimer]

It all depends on what you think Kiper should be. That was the point of my posting...is he an independent scout (the role which Kiper has ALWAYS claimed to be) or is he like a Chris Mortensen, just listening to what other GMs and Scouts are saying and adjusting his rankings accordingly?


I agree with your point that if Kiper is going to be making daily updates of a mock draft, then only a fool would ignore what the GMs and teams are saying. I guess my point is that it would be more impressive IMO if Kiper was like a 'superscout' instead of a gossip-monger, and it would be more interesting if Kiper gave his thoughts on the prospects independent of 'mock draft updates', and also put more emphasis on how well he's projected past draft prospects.

I think he adjusts his mocks accordingly based on what he hears. It's the smart move obviously in order to try and get accurate mocks.

As far as what Kiper is, I think on his mocks he's a combination of Mort and scout, but a bit more on the Mort side just because if he's trying to produce accurate mocks IMO you need to listen more on who you are hearing teams like rather than who you like yourself.

As far as his company goes Kiper puts out a hell of a scouting book every year full of prospects and how he and his scouting company feels about them. That never gets anyplay and sadly he never really promotes it on ESPN or anything. That's what I pay more attention to when looking at who is drafted.

I view Kiper as more a "super scout" who just has to change his approach when doing mocks because of the obvious.

lol...I don't really care for those "douche offs" either.

For me, it just irritates me the way that Kiper always has such drastic changes in his mocks (and I really don't follow all these mocks too closely...I think they are rather pointless and more often than not, not close to what actually happens on draft day). McShay seems to stand by his reasons to why he thinks the way he does...and he usually has a better argument when engaging in said douche offs with Kiper. Kiper just yells and gets pissed off thinking that by doing it that he comes off as right and more credible.

To be honest, I just really don't like mock drafts. There are so many of them out there now that one of them is bound to be right.

I for one don't care much for McShay in all honesty. His reasoning behind his picks is baffling. For example when he ws talking about the Bears taking Darius Hayward-Bey this year he mentioned the Bears need for a deep threat and Bey's speed being the catalyst. Any one who knows the Bears the reason they would take Bey is because of his size, not speed. We have a speed guy, Hester.

Last year too he had the Bears taking Mendenhall in a mock in the 1st Rd but in his own explanation of the pick said the Bears will most likely look to go RB in Round 2? WTF? So you think the Bears will take Mendenhall but will look to go RB in Rd 2?

 

[ralaw]

Kiper isn't going anywhere until he decides to leave. It doesn't matter how he comes about his rankings, as most "draft experts" are also twisting in the wind of rumors from GM's, scouts, teams, etc as well. The fact is being labeled a "draft expert" really has no value other than to push tv ratings and magazines. A "draft expert" isn't a scout and never has been. The whole point of being a "draft expert" is to align players with team needs and what better way to do that than to talk to the teams? Kiper is just the ole' dogg in a niche and he set the stage for guys like McShay who otherwise would probably be working some office job.