Might Piss some ppl off but Trevor Ariza Is.....

[ralaw]

it's probably fair to note that pippen was 23 during his 2nd year, the same age that ariza is currently. he's a comparison of their per-36 minute stats from their age 23 seasons

SP: 15.6 pts, 0.3 3pt, 6.6 reb, 3.8 ast, 3.0 to, 2.1 stl, 0.9 blk
TA: 13.1 pts, 1.1 3pt, 6.3 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.6 to, 2.5 stl, 0.4 blk

MBuser, do you mind if I call you "Stat Man" from now on, because you're always quick with the stats.

BTW, I checked our your site.....some really good stuff up there.

 

[mfbmike]

And looking at the numbers dude above posted them numbers arent very far off. Which isnt bad Im not saying Trev gone be better than Scottie I just think he is in that mold where his game will be in comparison.

Incoming rookies and young players are always put in a "category" as to whose game they resemble the most from the NBA, whether past or present players.

i.e. Thabeet's game is said to resemble that of Mutumbo's/Dalambert's; Demar Derozan's game resembles VC/Josh Howard/Nick Young

etc etc.

 

[Hasselbeck]

There always needs to be one I suppose,

You say I didn't watch Pippen although growing up in Chicago, where I was a huge fucking Bulls fan. Everyone wanted to be like Mike, well while everyone was working on fadeaways and shit I was working on Defense and trying to do everything on the court, Scottie Pippen has been and always will be my all-time favorite Basketball player (Im not saying he the best) while people was out buying Jordans, I was begging my grandmother to get me the Pippens.

I watched Pippen like a hawk growing up so please dont try and come at me like that, and to question my basketball I.Q once again you dont know me to do so. I have talked with other people about this and they understand where Im coming from where I see the raw talent in Trevor. Its ok if yall dont see it, I said it may piss ppl off but its just like how some of you look at these colleges players today and say they gone dis-n-dat Im just callin mine on sum1 already in the NBA.

Comparisons are made everyday: Harold Miner to MJ, Dirk to Bird, I mean chill man dont get to hyped up

Then you must have forgotten most of Pippen's career.

I never said "man you're stupid"... I just questioned your comparison and wondered how much Scottie Pippen you watched.

Most of this board is in the 16-20 year old age group.. thus they would have missed a lot of the Pippen/Jordan glory years. (Which on a side note.. I feel really bad for these kids)..

Stats don't tell the whole story, you can fudge numbers to work any way you want them to. I watched the NBA religiously growing up, and loved watching the Bulls primarily because of MJ.

I can tell you, Scottie Pippen was one of the most underrated players to ever play the game of basketball.. and his years WITHOUT MJ... show this.

Trevor Ariza is a fine player. He plays into his role on the Lakers perfectly. He gets the defensive assignment of the oppositions best SF/PF and he makes it a lot more difficult on that particular player to get into any sort of comfort level.

That said - Pippen didn't just cause discomfort on opposing players. He flat shut them down in his prime. He wouldn't hit one or two dagger threes in the corner because teams were focusing on Jordan.. he'd at times score 20, 25 a night.

There's huge differences between the two players.. even if you study their first four years.

If you want a comparison to a Scottie Pippen type player - look at Danny Granger. Same build.. same type of player. Can score, pass, defend, rebound and is a quiet leader much like Pip was. But even I will admit, Granger is worlds away from Pippen right now..

 

[FirstTimer]

Then you must have forgotten most of Pippen's career.

I never said "man you're stupid"... I just questioned your comparison and wondered how much Scottie Pippen you watched.

Most of this board is in the 16-20 year old age group.. thus they would have missed a lot of the Pippen/Jordan glory years. (Which on a side note.. I feel really bad for these kids)..

Stats don't tell the whole story, you can fudge numbers to work any way you want them to. I watched the NBA religiously growing up, and loved watching the Bulls primarily because of MJ.

I can tell you, Scottie Pippen was one of the most underrated players to ever play the game of basketball.. and his years WITHOUT MJ... show this.

Trevor Ariza is a fine player. He plays into his role on the Lakers perfectly. He gets the defensive assignment of the oppositions best SF/PF and he makes it a lot more difficult on that particular player to get into any sort of comfort level.

That said - Pippen didn't just cause discomfort on opposing players. He flat shut them down in his prime. He wouldn't hit one or two dagger threes in the corner because teams were focusing on Jordan.. he'd at times score 20, 25 a night.

There's huge differences between the two players.. even if you study their first four years.

If you want a comparison to a Scottie Pippen type player - look at Danny Granger. Same build.. same type of player. Can score, pass, defend, rebound and is a quiet leader much like Pip was. But even I will admit, Granger is worlds away from Pippen right now..

Excellently said. Don't think there is anyway Ariza has the ability to expand his game the way Pippen did. Ariza will be a nice wing player in the NBA but IMO he doesn't have the potential to become anything near what Pippen was.

 

[Senser81]

After watching Ariza this postseason, I think to call him 'the next Scott Pippen' is to sell Ariza short. He reminds me of the Nets-version of Julius Erving...a great athlete who can easily score 40-50 points on any given night, while pulling down 10-15 boards a game too. Ariza is even better than Erving on defense, so, logically, its not a stretch to say that Ariza will be the greatest player in NBA history.

 

[mfbmike]

After watching Ariza this postseason, I think to call him 'the next Scott Pippen' is to sell Ariza short. He reminds me of the Nets-version of Julius Erving...a great athlete who can easily score 40-50 points on any given night, while pulling down 10-15 boards a game too. Ariza is even better than Erving on defense, so, logically, its not a stretch to say that Ariza will be the greatest player in NBA history.

 

[dave]

Despite what many of you may think Trevor Ariza (My new MOFO) is the second coming of Scottie Pippen.


His game is so similar to Scottie's its amazing. I dont care what you may think but I see so many similarities and this is coming from someone whom studied Scottie when I was younger I wanted to be like Scottie.

One decent playoff and he's the next Scottie Pippen?
You kids make me laugh.

 

[FirstTimer]

One decent playoff and he's the next Scottie Pippen?
You kids make me laugh.

Next Tim Thomas?

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Does anyone know if he has bird rights with the Lakers?

 

[Hasselbeck]

If you all think about it who is the closest replica of Pippen in the NBA right now. Turkoglu offensively seems right but no where near on the defensive end. Put together Turkoglu and Battier and you have a Scottie Pippen

Danny Granger is a Pippen type player. He even wears 33 in honor of Pip.

He's just hidden on a shitty team, like Kevin Martin in Sacramento.

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

At the time I thought Cook for Ariza was a good trade.

:smh:

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Danny Granger is a Pippen type player. He even wears 33 in honor of Pip.

He's just hidden on a shitty team, like Kevin Martin in Sacramento.

Best comparison IMO. But Granger has better upside .