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NBA Weekly Thoughts [3/4-3/10]

Whats with all the hate on Westbrook?

Apparently D-Rose has been cleared to comeback, I kinda hope he sits out the rest of the season though he needs to comeback at full strength next season.
 
JimLeavy59 said:
Whats with all the hate on Westbrook?

Apparently D-Rose has been cleared to comeback, I kinda hope he sits out the rest of the season though he needs to comeback at full strength next season.
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He'll never be at full strength until he plays in actual games.
 
Herm said:
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This shit has got to stop.

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5th in the league in APG, ahead of Tony Parker, who you never ever hear called selfish.

The world really needs to stop basing their opinions on Skip Bayless or what other people say. Do 10 seconds of research and you'll find out the "Westbrook never passes" thing is a complete myth.
 
Diivox said:
This shit has got to stop.

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5th in the league in APG, ahead of Tony Parker, who you never ever hear called selfish.

The world really needs to stop basing their opinions on Skip Bayless or what other people say. Do 10 seconds of research and you'll find out the "Westbrook never passes" thing is a complete myth.
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His usage rate also blows all these guys out of the water though. His assist ratio rank is 50th in the NBA. I don't think he's a huge ball hog, but just using an APG stat is not going to change peoples minds even the slightest. Playing on arguably the best team in the league, he really shouldn't lead the NBA in usage rate.
 
When you watch OKC play you can sort of understand why his usage rate is second highest in the league. While OKC has a good team they don't have guys that can really score or create for themselves, so everything they do runs through Westbrook creating and to a lesser extent Durant creating. Granted I wish he'd be more efficient, but at this point he does what the team needs him to do.
 
Diivox said:
This shit has got to stop.

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5th in the league in APG, ahead of Tony Parker, who you never ever hear called selfish.

The world really needs to stop basing their opinions on Skip Bayless or what other people say. Do 10 seconds of research and you'll find out the "Westbrook never passes" thing is a complete truth.
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I watch every Thunder game that comes on TV here. im not worried about what Skip Bayless says. The only time i ever see that man is when people post clips of him on the internet. I cant count the number of times he takes ill advised shots with open teammates. It's painful to watch many nights. Primetime already mentioned his usage rate(Westbrook leads the league at 31.1)and assist ratio(He ranks 62nd in the league) which prove the point that you think is a myth. Those stats take into account all NBA players. If we look at PGs alone Westbrook is 1st in usage and 50th in assist ratio.

When he is hitting that midrange jumper he is unstoppable though. I will give him props on that. He is a very talented player.

Damian Lillard has a comparable assist ratio but ranks 45th in the league in usage rate.


Your 10 seconds of research method would lead most to believe Chris Johnson had a great 1200 yard season last year.
Chris Johnson averaged 4.5 ypc last year. IF you just look at stats you assumed he was a steady and consistent runner. The fact is if you look at his individual carries they often looked like 1,1,1,-1, -2, 1,-2, 3, 1, 1, 85,1,3,-2,1,-2,1.
 
I don't really get why this whole debate is coming up. I think we all agree that Westbrook will never be a pass first pg but many guys aren't that type of a pg these days. Westbrook is very good at what he does and does it his way. Every player can get better in some points of his games and Westbrook should work on his shot selection sometimes but he's by far not the only player with that problem. I think Jim Leavy mentioned the perfect examples in Kobe and Melo
 
Herm said:
I watch every Thunder game that comes on TV here. im not worried about what Skip Bayless says. The only time i ever see that man is when people post clips of him on the internet. I cant count the number of times he takes ill advised shots with open teammates. It's painful to watch many nights. Primetime already mentioned his usage rate(Westbrook leads the league at 31.1)and assist ratio(He ranks 62nd in the league) which prove the point that you think is a myth. Those stats take into account all NBA players. If we look at PGs alone Westbrook is 1st in usage and 50th in assist ratio.

When he is hitting that midrange jumper he is unstoppable though. I will give him props on that. He is a very talented player.

Damian Lillard has a comparable assist ratio but ranks 45th in the league in usage rate.


Your 10 seconds of research method would lead most to believe Chris Johnson had a great 1200 yard season last year.
Chris Johnson averaged 4.5 ypc last year. IF you just look at stats you assumed he was a steady and consistent runner. The fact is if you look at his individual carries they often looked like 1,1,1,-1, -2, 1,-2, 3, 1, 1, 85,1,3,-2,1,-2,1.
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Okay, I clearly went at the wrong guy because you seem to know your business. The main thing i'm trying to say is that He passes plenty, and theres this perception out there that he kills his team, he's selfish, etc. He's one of the best players in the NBA and he's all of 24 years old. I'd take him over Rondo and his blatant stat padding any day of the week.

At the risk of breaking VSN, and possibly for the first time ever on this forum: Sorry about that. 2 line images made for facebook spam are destroying peoples abilities to critical think. You are obviously not one of those people.
 
JimLeavy59 said:
Funny how nobody seems to have a problem with Carmelo's or Kobe's usage rating.
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They drive me just as crazy. i like old school team basketball and chuckers annoy me. Kobe and Carmelo are SG and SF, two positions that traditionally do most of the scoring for teams. the Knicks have used Melo at the 4 with great success this year.


Westbrook is one of the most exciting players in the league when he's hot. I've just always preferred past first PGs.
 
Herm said:
They drive me just as crazy. i like old school team basketball and chuckers annoy me. Kobe and Carmelo are SG and SF, two positions that traditionally do most of the scoring for teams. the Knicks have used Melo at the 4 with great success this year.


Westbrook is one of the most exciting players in the league when he's hot. I've just always preferred past first PGs.
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I wouldn't consider Westbrook a PG though but I understand where you are coming from, I just get sick of these people who treat Westbrook like he's some bum who should just defer to KD.
 
Utah is going to choke and miss the playoffs granted having the 8th seed in the West pretty much means you'll be sent packing within 4-5 games anyways.
 
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