New Age Madden (kind of long)

[Realist]

Over the past few months, mostly since the release of madden 10, I've notice a new outlook on Madden. Long gone are the day of guys who play for the love of the game or to simulate the real NFL. Now you have more people trying to become "The Man" and be the next Madden Challenge Champion.

When I first started playing online, there were guys who were better than me, but eventually I started getting better and better to the point where I could beat some of those guys on a regular basis. What happened was I started to gain respect from those guys because, although my game improved, I still remained humbled and had that "respect" from them. Guys like Mad Sci. RainyT, even LiquidRob, among others, those guys played you with respect and gave you props whether you won or lost. There was rarely any pumping of the chest and most of the time they offered advice to help your game in a SIM way, and not proving ebooks to cheese the AI. I remember playing and challenging Mobb almost every day because he was "the man" and even though he kicked my ass regularly, not once did he talk shit to me. It's to the point now where there is a mutual respect from each other no matter who wins.

I liking it to when I was younger and playing basketball with the older guys, I knew my place. Those guys were the "mentors" and you respected them, and in return they had your back no matter what. Now you have younger guys who come on the court and if you "disrespect" their game, they want to shoot you.

Now I see a lot of guys who come on board trying to "take" respect by talking. Whether you are a good player or not, imo, it's better to have respect of your madden brethren than to be labeled an asshole. Guys want to be the man, belittle their opponent, and, for the most part, brag about being able to manipulate the AI. You get no respect from that, and ultimately, in the long run, you lose. I've had talks with some guys in the past and I think I've helped their game someone. Mot to make them a better madden player, but to be a better sim player

I know this is just a game, but for the most part, a lot of us have "grown up together." From high school, to college/military, to having families now. It would be sad for many of us to stop playing the game because some people really don't know how to "truely" play the game. Which I think has happened. It's a lot harder to find a game of madden because, the older guys, like myself, have things we now have to do outside of madden, but at the same time when we actually do have the time to play, it's vs New Age madden players and it's basically a waste of time. I hope things change soon..

And for those who read all of this...a treat for you

 

[Wildcard]

Madden 10 after the patches has been the most complete Madden in a long time.

If you play sim ball vs another sim baller there really isn't anything wrong with the game, and I hate when people bash it, and stop playing it 2 months after buying it because they don't know how to adjust to the way New Age Madden is.

I'll continue to buy Madden every year on the first day until the day I die. I've been playing with some of the same people on this website for 6 years now. It would really suck if things changed.

I can't wait until my son is old enough to smack OOBL around in a game of Madden when he's 4 years old.

I have a huge feeling that Madden 11 is going to be pretty fucking sweet.(Probably after the 1st patch)

 

[Jagsfan61]

agreed!

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I applaud your indirect shot at me. Take them while you can. The guys I talk shit with are usually mutual things where we go back and forth and it's a friendly rivalry. Ask anybody who has ever asked me a question about the game, or how to improve I have helped no questions asked. I bust balls, and when I feel attacked you can bet I'm going to defend myself, I may handle it differently then some other people but I do the same thing anybody else would do. For somebody that has never played against me, or encountered me on a one on one basis I come off as an absolute prick, but with most people right after the game I'm right there, humble, and we talk about what did and didn't work in the game.

I don't care if I'm the best, worst, smartest, dumbest it doesn't matter to me. I mess with people because it keeps interest going, hell if TGT didn't have as many friendly trash talking rivalries I doubt it would still be going with the same faces for so long. Each year it's me and KG taking shots at eachother all season, or Houtz and BigBucs saying how great their RB's are doing, the game has evolved into something where trash talking keeps you wanting to play. This is the best Madden to come out in a while but it is still bland and downright boring at times, so a lot of the guys have resorted to rivalries and trash talking so that we can go week in and week out knowing that we will get a good game from another quality owner, and if we don't back it up when we talk we can rub right back into eachother's faces without getting feelings hurt over a video game.

 

[Realist]

Lol@ indirect shot. Please you aren't the only one around here that acts like as ass and won't be the last. That post wasn't directed at you specifically so don't pat yourself on the back too hard. I said this goes back a few months. I've wanted to post this for a while too.

But since you feel the need to assume this is ALL about you, just go back and look at Dave's old power rankings. You were the first one to post that you were being 'disrespected' every week. So instead of earning that respect, you decided to bitch every week about it. A few people told me first hand that they quit playing tracker games because some were taking it way too serious. I've never played you but I can tell you are a really good player but there is a difference in trash talking and being an asshole. Maybe you just don't know the thin line between the two yet. You remind me of Zeus when he first started playing with us. We all trash talk all the time too, hell its one of the reasons we got 'booted' from MM lol

I have no problem with you and look forward to playing u one day. My original post was more of a general statement so don't get too butt hurt about it . Friends?

 

[NWSaint]

Realist!

Very well put.. yeah, unfortunately we all do eventually growup (well, most of us.. LoL) & have multitudes of other shyt goin' on.. but if you ever see me o/l & wanna run, just hit me up and we'll roll.. I love those (and wouldn't play'm any other way) run it just like they do on Sunday games.. F' all the other bullshyt.. However, I do miss the tight-knit like it used to be, MM was the joint!.. period!




NWSaint.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Lol@ indirect shot. Please you aren't the only one around here that acts like as ass and won't be the last. That post wasn't directed at you specifically so don't pat yourself on the back too hard. I said this goes back a few months. I've wanted to post this for a while too.

But since you feel the need to assume this is ALL about you, just go back and look at Dave's old power rankings. You were the first one to post that you were being 'disrespected' every week. So instead of earning that respect, you decided to bitch every week about it. A few people told me first hand that they quit playing tracker games because some were taking it way too serious. I've never played you but I can tell you are a really good player but there is a difference in trash talking and being an asshole. Maybe you just don't know the thin line between the two yet. You remind me of Zeus when he first started playing with us. We all trash talk all the time too, hell its one of the reasons we got 'booted' from MM lol

I have no problem with you and look forward to playing u one day. My original post was more of a general statement so don't get too butt hurt about it . Friends?

Lol well it was posted as the 2-2-0 thing was going on, and I'm guilty of some of the things. Dave's power rankings, yes I did bitch, but nobody can deny that I completely backed it up time after time again, it was half serious. And you play me in a couple weeks in 2-2-0 :box: lol There's no hard feelings either way, it's a video game.

 

[Realist]

Lol well it was posted as the 2-2-0 thing was going on, and I'm guilty of some of the things. Dave's power rankings, yes I did bitch, but nobody can deny that I completely backed it up time after time again, it was half serious. And you play me in a couple weeks in 2-2-0 :box: lol There's no hard feelings either way, it's a video game.

Yea the 220 thread made me remember to post it. I guess I should thank you for that lol

Yea you did back it up, but I guarantee had you that had you not said anything, you would have gotten props from everyone anyway. I know first hand. When I first started playing with these guys, we had level rankings from A-H(H being the lowest.) Guess where yours truly was at even though I was winning a lot of games? Right there in the 'H' level lol. Never bitched, or complained(honestly, I didn't care), I just kept playing and eventually people started taking noticed and/or standing up for me. So that's pretty much all I was trying to say. You think it gets heated in there sometimes but it's nothing like it was at MM lol. But at that time a lot of people constantly played and at the end of the day there was a mutual respect for everyone. So again, it wasn't directed at you. Hopefully others will read and understand what we are about too.

But yea we play soon, and I plan on gettin my azz handed to me. 220 isn't doing me well this season lol

 

[mcstl25]

Good post, Realist. More than anything, I think your comments reflect on how good of a group we had back in the glory days at MM. Personally, I like a little smack talk as long as it's in good fun. Guys like Bigbucs and Izzy come to mind here, guys that talk a lot of shit, but we know it's all in good fun.

 

[Rohtang]

Awesome post realist

 

[mobbdeep1122]

Thanks for the props, Realist.

I miss the group we had during the glory years of PS2. Guys would talk shit but the respect was there first and foremost. It was the perfect collection of guys who loved the game and knew how to have fun with it on the forums. Not to mention the game was so much more enjoyable back then, IMO.

Then, the new breed of Madden ballers came in towards the end of MM's reign and tried to fit in with everyone too quick. Instead of letting their game do the talking like all of us did when we first arrived at MM, these guys thought sucking their own cock was the way to get noticed. They were so desperate to be included in top 10 talks when they've been a part of the site for a month. This, of course, led to them bending the rules as far as they could so they could win as many games as possible to prove to everyone they were the best.

I noticed that a little bit too this past year when this forum was active. We lost a lot of our core guys to a number of reasons, so I guess this is just what we're forced to deal with going forward. I have no problem with talking shit, I think it makes the game/forums that much better. But some of these new guys aren't good at it, so they're just annoying to the majority of the people who have established themselves.

 

[Helicopter]

Realist!

Very well put.. yeah, unfortunately we all do eventually growup (well, most of us.. LoL) & have multitudes of other shyt goin' on.. but if you ever see me o/l & wanna run, just hit me up and we'll roll.. I love those (and wouldn't play'm any other way) run it just like they do on Sunday games.. F' all the other bullshyt.. However, I do miss the tight-knit like it used to be, MM was the joint!.. period!




NWSaint.

Quit trying to rush me growing up! lol I already feel like an old shitbag and I'm about to be 32 next month. Time sure has flown. I'm still down to run a game anytime anyone wants even though the game has soured me all year, lol. I keep getting worse and worse and my declining TGT record shows it.

I need to play those World Champion New Orleans Saints soon. Maybe one day this week, NW?

Great opening post, Realist.

 

[NWSaint]

Quit trying to rush me growing up! lol I already feel like an old shitbag and I'm about to be 32 next month. Time sure has flown. I'm still down to run a game anytime anyone wants even though the game has soured me all year, lol. I keep getting worse and worse and my declining TGT record shows it.

I need to play those World Champion New Orleans Saints soon. Maybe one day this week, NW?

Great opening post, Realist.

Helo'!

Age has got nothin' to do with it (as I can attest personally @ 45), it's all about the love of the game.. I can't even begin to describe how much I miss how it used to be, but i'm not gonna be that "how it used to" drum, because that's looking in the rearview, which IMO is a no-no, does no good, can't bring things back, they're done and over, but at the same time thinking back sure makes a mf'er smile, maaaaaaaaaan we had games, mad games damn near every single night, EVERYBODY just ballin' !!.. Sometimes things in life can't be helped & you just gotta adjust, which at times means making sacrifices.. So here's to the era pre-sacrafice!!.. A HUGE
-llll-Cuff-llll- (<-- the 405lb barbell cuff.. LoL) to all the mf'ers that were around back then, that are still around today (even though some might be hibernatin') that still love to run, just for the love.. my bruddahz'!

PS- & Helo', anytime!...................boss.................*smile*

NWSaint.

 

[TimsGiants]

I blame it on Kornstar...4real

But Realist you missed the bus bigtime this year. This is the best madden to date due to TGT. The league kicks ass. Days of pickup games and ladders are history. Some just bailed way to early this year.

 

[Realist]

I blame it on Kornstar...4real

But Realist you missed the bus bigtime this year. This is the best madden to date due to TGT. The league kicks ass. Days of pickup games and ladders are history. Some just bailed way to early this year.

I've actually played alot recently. I've played more randoms games online(about 40 so far) than i have the last 3 years. i really didn't have time to play earlier in the year due to some personal things. i'm in 220 and having a blast but ultimately, i prefer random games. sometimes i just want a good sim game to scratch my madden itch outside of the lg game every few days.

 

[Coach]

Good post Realist. Even though I was on the 360 when Madden kicked off this year, I kept up with what was going on the PS3 side. I saw all the heat OOBL was taking and made note of it. You can tell a lot about someone just how they post and what they post about and from what I read, I could tell OOBL was not what some was tryin to make him out to be. If being aggresive is wrong or unsim, then some people need to hang up the sticks. That's how I describe his game play...it's no different then Izzy accpet for he wins more games.

As for me...I pride myself on being a solid baller. You're only only going to be so good playin with the Browns but that's the only team you will ever see me playing with. That's the main reason why I'm not in a lot of leagues...if I can't have the Browns...I don't want to be down.

IMO, this community needs all type of ballers...the trash talkers, the semi-cheese ballers, etc. When BigBucs first came on the scene, me and him went at it hard. MadSci had to step in and we was still going hard. Later on, someone else came in talkin smack and me and BB became cool and went at dude. Oh yeah...it was AZ!!! Him and his boy that rolled with the Ravens! Now all of us are cool.

So I don't trip when someone new comes on the scene...I just sit back and watch cuz I've been there and done that. So in conclusion....a few shout outs...

Tim - you still suck and yo Giants ain't got nuffin on my Browns! Stop settin fires in yo backyard while were playin as an excuse to quit the game! LOL (inside joke)

Mobb - One of these days mofo...one of these days!

Windy - Last I remember, you got me...it's on baby. We keep missin each other but it's gonna happen.

Izzy - where ya at...bring them Giants, Jets or whoever you rollin wit now. Much love homie!

BigBucs - Damnit...send me a friend request (Coach-74) and I'll stay up one night to 3AM just to play yo azz! LOL

AZ - Nothin like shuttin CJ and Vince down...bring them mofo's!!

BIGG - See AZ! How's the fam homie?

Saint - Nuffin like takin down a Superbowl team while they still ridin high! LOL

QS - Man...it's been too long...bring that Cooley show to the Dawgpound! When you make it back to the 757, I mos def gotta make it back there!

Last but not least...

Realist...you on a roll homie. You got me this year so far....I think your D is a perfect fit for OOBL. Can't wait to hear the outcome of that game.

Anyone of my old rivalries I forgot...blame it on the alcohol!

DAVE...I ain't forgot about yo azz...love the write ups!!!

Out....

 

[DJ Rhude]

I've beaten everyone in this thread like they stole something.....how you like dem apples Realist? :getmoney:

 

[Coach]

Oh yeah...my man Zeus! Still got ya back homie! Hit me up for a rematch...that was a classic game we had. Still can't believe I followed through with one of my goals after joining the 220...brought that 14 game winning streak to an end...Woot Woot!! Hurry up and get yo azz back in the 220!

 

[Coach]

I've beaten everyone in this thread like they stole something.....how you like dem apples Realist? :getmoney:

Damn...forgot about you...have you beaten me? LOL Yeah...you prolly did!

 

[Umfer]

Yeah, I feel exactly like realist, I actually have played quite a bit of random games, even if it is against some guys that are cheesy as hell. I finally played my first game back in a while against realist and it was nice having somebody play sim against ya