New wave of XBL bannings (firmware detection?)

[Maynard]

Yup, thats why Im not that worried about it and most people arent lol. People I know have one system for online and one that has been banned.


Its kinda lame. People go buy a 360, swap the guts (other than the flashed drive) and box it all back up and return it. Imagine a kid getting the 360 for Xmas, opening it, hooking it up and realizing that its banned from XBL because some fag returned a banned system. Shit sucks.

wow, that is a fucking scam

 

[leaffan]

I never said it was Microsoft's fault. I just said I think its a bigger problem because it seems to be happening much more with the ban hammer hitting so many people. Also, I cant really say its the company selling it either. You can easily remove/replace the stickers with a heat gun or a blow dryer that gets really hot. Its pretty much undetectable.

Umm you just turn it on and log into a store live acount. Really not that hard. Gamestop already turns it on.

Like I said its laziness on the company selling them and taking them back. When I worked in computer parts retail I never took a part back till it was tested. Customers complained but my store never got scammed either.

 

[Virix]

Umm you just turn it on and log into a store live acount. Really not that hard. Gamestop already turns it on.

Like I said its laziness on the company selling them and taking them back. When I worked in computer parts retail I never took a part back till it was tested. Customers complained but my store never got scammed either.

Yeah, I worked at a computer store too and we had the same policy. Hardly the same as someone opening a (seemingly) factory sealed console and testing it. Small stores would be able to do something like that, but these people dont target them. They target stores that do so much volume that they really WONT open a sealed system. Everyone knows Gamestop turns on the systems, so people go to Wal-Mart, Target and other major chains. I really cant say I blame the stores for not opening a sealed system.

 

[leaffan]

Yeah, I worked at a computer store too and we had the same policy. Hardly the same as someone opening a (seemingly) factory sealed console and testing it. Small stores would be able to do something like that, but these people dont target them. They target stores that do so much volume that they really WONT open a sealed system. Everyone knows Gamestop turns on the systems, so people go to Wal-Mart, Target and other major chains. I really cant say I blame the stores for not opening a sealed system.

LOL its the exact same thing.

We had people buying whole nice towers and then try to return them a few days later only to find they were missing a few things. The warranty seal was still on them so they obviously just used a hot air gun.

I don't care if they are bigger stores or not. They should be protecting themselves and their customers.

 

[Virix]

Most stores have a policy that you cannot return an opened console. So you think that they should get a sealed console and open it to check it, then sell it? I think if I walked into a store and they tried to sell me a console they opened Id be quite pissed. Things in computer stores are quite different. Half of the shit we sold was OEM, and the computers were built in the store lol. Thats a little different than someone at a returns counter opening a factory sealed console.

Im just not sure you could enforce a rule that unopened consoles wont be accepted in return (except for the same item) then open it at the counter.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

from xbox scene:

name='Tekkenlord' date='Nov 5 2009, 07:51 PM' post='4557989'

There goes two, just to shut up all the idiots saying its not the firmware, the banning has started here in MEXICO so far FOUR consoles banned, all of them modded by ME, and i didnt use its respective xboxes to power the drives, ONE of this consoles we just flashed it five hours ago and my friend AND OWNER agreed to mod it and make the tests online, the console is a Resident Evil 5 special edition RED buyed 6 months ago

we never put any disc after the flashing JUST the HDD we went online played a few games of arcade in his account, an xbox live party, went offline shut down the console, tried again 5 minutes later to go online AGAIN, with the ETHERNET CABLE connected the console just BEFORE entering online showed the message VETADO in english BANNED and was BEFORE we EVEN connected to xbox live, even BEFORE.

and BEFORE some idiot say that it was reckless and not true or possible we did that test since the console we used its only going to be used for a business in wich we rent the consoles here in mexico to play for amounts of time and we dont need that the console even save anything or connect ever again online we just need the laser to work properly, we have also another NOT BANNED BUT not gonna make anyore tests 7 CONSOLES including mine wich im not going to be stupid enough to connect it online ever again, im autobanning myself BUT i wanna see now some idiots come AND tell me ITS NOT the firmware, when a console we just modded five hour ago has been BANNED, come on jerks come and make your lame excuses now, or tell me that im lying i can show you the picture of the other xboxes i have or that one for that matter and yes it's BANNED.

Banned: YES
Country: MEXICO
DVD drive version: Lite-on 7series
Firmware Version: 1.6 POWERED with another xbox 360 MOBO
Used Activate.iso: No
Played Wave4: Played Nothing
Wave of the last game played: NONE
Installed any games to HDD: Yes SF IV copied from the ORIGINAL
Homemade HDD: NO
Ever Played an early release:NONE
Received Achievement on Early Release(online/offline):No
Abgx360 Verify: ONLY PLAYED originals

OTHER thing i dont know if all are liying or what or its only a Mexico matter BUT the profile its NOT i REPEAT its not damaged, we tested it and he can save, he have the gamerscore and everything, it just loosed the ability to play the only game instaled in the HDD SF IV and was installed from an original, not a backup since the console WASNT ABLE to read them, i repeat the HDD in the SAME console dont show the profile DAMAGED BUT yes its banned and YES it cant install games anymore, and yes its the fuc.... firmware WHAT ELSE??????

 

[Herm]

That would be fucking hilarious.

like the kid whose parents gave him the 360 box with no console in it?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKwCQWjTyI0"]YouTube- Brother on Christmas unwraps fake XBOX 360[/ame]

 

[gaysex4lif]

Those parents are assholes.

 

[Virix]

I think the story was like, he was caught sneaking peaks at his gifts or something but didnt know his parents knew, so they played the joke on him.

 

[gaysex4lif]

I just watched the 2nd video..

 

[Point Blank]

Lol, didn't that kid end up getting one anyways?

Edit: Nvm.

 

[Twigg4075]

like the kid whose parents gave him the 360 box with no console in it?

Exactly like that.

No soup for you!

 

[Goober]

like the kid whose parents gave him the 360 box with no console in it?

YouTube- Brother on Christmas unwraps fake XBOX 360

Looks like his mama in the pink ate it.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

they cant see every thing but they do know certain things such as BIOS details there is one at every boot you think that ball with the X on it is just for looks. there is a small storage capacity within the xbox itself just enough to record a few logs of Hardware ID mismatches and Hardware Failure

Hardware ID mismatches = immediate flag which more than likely will result in your ban.

Hardware Failure +3 equals flag inspection. if its your DVD-Rom drive that failed more than three times, your living on borrowed time.

as these are logged and sent out every time you connect to live you cant hide from it.

people think MS seats there and finds people to ban. when its your console rating you out to the live servers.

no thats not a Hardware ID mismatch, every piece of hardware in each and every xbox is stamped with a digital ID the drive's may be the same the may even have the same Hardware tag. but the ID is different in every xbox

not having the power cord connected to the drive is counted as a failure you can have up to 3 of these. any more and the xbox Tells Bigbrother Down in Redmond that Somethings not right. this doesn't mean immediate ban it means someone or some machine will try to see how it failed by reading the log your xbox sent.

hence your riding on borrowed time, as all they have to do is type in some nice little commands that make the xbox squeal like a captured German.

sometimes they just ignore it, like in my case having a launch console they more than likely thought it was just an overheat issue or perhaps at the time it was modded they were swamped with Hardware failure logs

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[MrBill]

The final word is in from the person that would know about the cause of the recent bannings. Just what we thought, bad rips and playing warez releases early.

<+c4eva> fw itself not detectable

<+c4eva> suspect they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx!

He also added the following:

<+c4eva> just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61

<+c4eva> One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs) , another is running a backup from my region!

<+c4eva> until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw!