NFL eyeing Rooney Rule expansion

[ThomasTomasz]

It is about providing more opportunities by raising awareness. The impact of the RR will be that more minority candidates will be given opportunities and groomed to be executives and coaches. Again, I don't see the issue it's not as if teams are being prevented from hiring who they want.

How does being forced to interview someone grooming them for a position? No team is going to pick someone because of skin color to be their coordinator or head coach years down the road. It's all about what you do with the team on the field in your area of responsibility.

 

[ralaw]

How does being forced to interview someone grooming them for a position? No team is going to pick someone because of skin color to be their coordinator or head coach years down the road. It's all about what you do with the team on the field in your area of responsibility.

It isn't direct. The RR gives opportunities and raises awareness for minorities. The key word is awareness, which helps providing opportunities. Also, the more you interview the better you get at knowing how to sell yourself.

There hasn't been a time in history where whites freely have given minorities opportunities without some form of mandate.

 

[Maynard]

what people dont understand is that without the rule minorities would not even have an opportunity to get their names considered. people want to believe that the best candidate should get the chance regardless of color. and in a perfect world that would be the case.

unfortunately the history of the NFL is littered with racist owners who wouldnt even give players a chance to play let alone coach. In todays NFL you still have the old guard way of thinking where 32 rich, white men control who they want to work with. And as owners it their right. But the rr at the very least provides minorities a chance to get a shot when they otherwise would not.

imo, the rule is nothing but a public relations hypocrisy because most of these white owners have no intentions of hiring the minorities they interview

 

[Goober]

This is such a dumb rule. I think NFL teams should be required to try out white runningbacks, the Peyton Hillis' of the world aren't getting a fair shake.

 

[JimLeavy59]

This is such a dumb rule. I think NFL teams should be required to try out white runningbacks, the Peyton Hillis' of the world aren't getting a fair shake.

Run a better 40.

 

[Maynard]

exactly...its not like white running backs dont get a shot because they are white. goblin being an ignorant fuck

 

[DoubleDeuce]

exactly...its not like white running backs dont get a shot because they are white. goblin being an ignorant fuck

This isn't 1966, or even 1986. Blacks get the same opportunities in this day and age by-and-large

 

[JimLeavy59]

Tim Tebow got a chance to play RB but he turned it down.

 

[EmpireWF]

This isn't 1966, or even 1986. Blacks get the same opportunities in this day and age by-and-large

I'd like to think so, too.

 

[Maynard]

This isn't 1966, or even 1986. Blacks get the same opportunities in this day and age by-and-large

and you know this because....

 

[ralaw]

But it's terrible when a team knows who they want and the guy happens to be white so guess what, now we have to interview whatever black guy will be willing to do so. Usually some position coach that will eventually be on that same staff.

I agree, but I don't think the corruption of the rule should overtake the intent of the rule. Nothing is going to be perfect, but IMO it is a move in the right direction, Eventually I hope the rule can be done away with.

 

[Aso]

I agree, but I don't think the corruption of the rule should overtake the intent of the rule. Nothing is going to be perfect, but IMO it is a move in the right direction, Eventually I hope the rule can be done away with.

I deleted my post because I saw people had already mentioned what I said.

But... I will ask when will the rule be done away with after it's been expanded in so many different ways? Coordinators and team presidents?

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I agree, but I don't think the corruption of the rule should overtake the intent of the rule. Nothing is going to be perfect, but IMO it is a move in the right direction, Eventually I hope the rule can be done away with.

If they are expanding it, it will never be finished. Eventually, when someone wishes to sell their team, they will have to interview a minority-led group.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

and you know this because....

50% of the Super Bowls the last 6 years have had a black head coach rep.

And I don't KNOW this, but you don't know the opposite either.

 

[ralaw]

I deleted my post because I saw people had already mentioned what I said.

But... I will ask when will the rule be done away with after it's been expanded in so many different ways? Coordinators and team presidents?

If they are expanding it, it will never be finished. Eventually, when someone wishes to sell their team, they will have to interview a minority-led group.

I don't know the magic percentage number the league is looking for, but I do know currently the numbers are considerably low. TBH, I think the numbers will improve as we see current and recently retired players realize that opportunities are now a reality. For many years minorities didn't even try.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

The other thing, what if you are the head coach of a team, and another team selects your defensive coordinator their HC position, and he accepts. If you want to promote someone from within, a perfectly reasonable idea in both the NFL and business world, do you still need to interview a minority candidate? Does that minority candidate even feel like they have a shot at the job if that's the case. I can understand to an extent if it's a new coach filling a new position, but not replacing someone who left.

 

[Goober]

exactly...its not like white running backs dont get a shot because they are white. goblin being an ignorant fuck

Well it's not like these coaches aren't getting hired because they're black. they're not getting hired because there is a better candidate out there.

A player's 40 time isn't the end all stat that decides whether or not a player will succeed, just like a coaches skin color isn't the biggest factor in his success.

 

[Maynard]

Well it's not like these coaches aren't getting hired because they're black. they're not getting hired because there is a better candidate out there.

A player's 40 time isn't the end all stat that decides whether or not a player will succeed, just like a coaches skin color isn't the biggest factor in his success.

how do you know why they are not getting hired? you gonna try and tell me that there wasnt 1 black coach that was better than pat shurmur...cmon

 

[EmpireWF]

There are only 2 black offensive coordinators, right?

 

[Aso]

If Hue Jackson doesn't get an offensive coordinator job this off-season I may start to wonder.