NFL Players Missing From Fishing Trip

[Senser81]

FWIW, I found the shark picture to be tasteless. There are other things in life that can be made fun of instead of something tragic. For instance, I heard Maynard started posting over here...

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Darfur is the genocide that has been happening for years in Sudan. It is a pretty horrific story.

Thats fucked up too. Definitely not something id poke fun at..

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

FWIW, I found the shark picture to be tasteless. There are other things in life that can be made fun of instead of something tragic. For instance, I heard Maynard started posting over here...

And if a guy like Senser think its tasteless, I really think thats saying something.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I just don't understand why you get to decide what's tasteless or not... Like I said if you don't like it just scroll by it. It wasn't meant for you. I know for a fact I have other members on the site with the same sensibilities on situations such as these (Rosetta, MVPete) and I joke with them. You can keep reading the sob fest and just ignore my "tasteless" posts.

Read my post again. If you take to things so lightly why is this rubbing you the wrong way?

Me and Rosetta have had our share of issues, but definitely not from a humour of tasteless stand point.
MVP is good in my books.
I dont really have any issues with you either.. lol I just said it was too soon and you kinda went off on it. So I told you why I thought it was too soon.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I have my own sense of humor. I bring it here. You have your own sense of humor too. It's how life works. I find your avatar tasteless, but I would never try and tell you what a douche you are for having it.

Wait.. so Chris Bosh in a cowboy outfit = tasteless.

Posting a picture of a shark after people are lost @ sea, implying they were eating by said shark.. = not tasteless

Gotcha.

 

[ralaw]

This is a sad story, but am I the only one when reading stories like this where people are lost at sea immediatly think of LOST on ABC? After I heard about this story I thought to myself, "What if they're on an island having to deal with the Others?" I am serious too.....I always think about LOST when I see stories like this.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

You definitely are worked up., atleast from a posting stand point. Im not trying to police you, I have the right to express my opinion the same as you do, correct? Since you're going to try to be all Bill of Rights about it.

I actually did find the thread abt Travolta's son to be funny because of the irony of it all. I can be tasteless too. We're all guilty.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

This is a sad story, but am I the only one when reading stories like this where people are lost at sea immediatly think of LOST on ABC? After I heard about this story I thought to myself, "What if they're on an island having to deal with the Others?" I am serious too.....I always think about LOST when I see stories like this.

Nevermind dealing with the Others. How about the crazy Black Smoke that you dont know wtf it does or polar bears that survive in 80 degree weather.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Then way are you calling people out for being tasteless? I'm not worked up I'm just trying to understand you logic on these matters. Seems like you live a life of double standards.

You were the one that went beyond me saying "too soon". You asked for an elaboration and you got one. Dont ask for answers if you dont want to receive them. I would've agreed with someone that called me tasteless for finding humour in young Travolta's death aswell. And that would've been it. Sounds you like you have as much problem with double standards as me.. you obviously dont take to things as lightly as you might've thought you did.

 

[ralaw]

If that story about the NFL players giving up hope and drifting off into the sea is true that is crazy. I guess sitting in the ocean for 2-4 hours getting tired, being cold, etc could take its toll on a person. At that point the only thing a person has is hope.

 

[Tailback U]

I think these guys being lost at sea is funny. So is the monkey attacking a woman and the genocide going on in Darfur. It's all funny to me because it's not me!!

::waits for 4 pages of a bitching to tell me how tasteless I am::

It's the internet. Wash that sand out of your vagina and stop crying about what other people say, even if it offends you. There's nothing you can do about it except bitch back and forth with one another for 3 pages. But I guess if you have nothing better to do that seems like fun. So have at it fellas.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I think these guys being lost at sea is funny. So is the monkey attacking a woman and the genocide going on in Darfur. It's all funny to me because it's not me!!

::waits for 4 pages of a bitching to tell me how tasteless I am::

It's the internet. Wash that sand out of your vagina and stop crying about what other people say, even if it offends you. There's nothing you can do about it except bitch back and forth with one another for 3 pages. But I guess if you have nothing better to do that seems like fun. So have at it fellas.

Hah.. you already knew you were tasteless. I wouldnt even bother to tell you.

 

[ralaw]

I think these guys being lost at sea is funny. So is the monkey attacking a woman and the genocide going on in Darfur. It's all funny to me because it's not me!!

I don't understand the logic of "It didn't happen to me, so it's funny" Why do events such as those you mentioned have to be funny simply because they didn't happen to you? I'm not saying you have to be saddened, but why be moved either way? Also, its not simply about having to be saddened by the events, but instead having a level of decency in regards to those people who go through tragic events.

 

[mfbmike]

Excerpt
As the Coast Guard ended its search for three missing football players whose boat tipped over in high Florida seas, the lone survivor said two of those lost gave up after hours in the frigid water and the third tried to swim to safety.

South Florida player Nick Schuyler told investigators that all four of the friends on a fishing excursion were initially wearing life vests and clinging to the 21-foot boat belonging to Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper.

But two to four hours after the boat capsized, one of the NFL players removed his life jacket and let himself be swept out to sea, the St. Petersburg Times reported. A few hours later, the other one followed suit.
"We were told that Nick said the two NFL players took their life jackets off and drifted out to sea," said Bob Bleakley, whose son Will Bleakley, 25, is also still missing.


After Cooper, 26, and Corey Smith, 29, were carried away, Bleakley and Schuyler hung on until morning — but then Bleakley decided to try to swim to get help when he thought he saw a distant light, the paper said.

He, too, took his life vest off, 24-year-old Schuyler told the families.

"I think he was delusional to think he could swim someplace," the Times quoted Bleakley as saying.

Cooper's cousin Ray Sanchez said the Coast Guard recounted a similar story to him, but doesn't know whether it's true. Schuyler suffered from hypothermia and weakness, which could have affected his memory and thinking.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,504464,00.html




damn, that's sad.

 

[mfbmike]

* Stage 3

Body temperature drops below approximately 32 °C (89.6 °F). Shivering usually stops.[1][2] Difficulty speaking, sluggish thinking, and amnesia start to appear; inability to use hands and stumbling is also usually present. Cellular metabolic processes shut down. Below 30 °C (86.0 °F), the exposed skin becomes blue and puffy, muscle coordination becomes very poor, walking becomes almost impossible, and the victim exhibits incoherent/irrational behavior including terminal burrowing or even a stupor. Pulse and respiration rates decrease significantly, but fast heart rates (ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation) can occur. Major organs fail. Clinical death occurs. Because of decreased cellular activity in stage 3 hypothermia, the body will actually take longer to undergo brain death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia

 

[mfbmike]

* Stage 3

Body temperature drops below approximately 32 °C (89.6 °F). Shivering usually stops.[1][2] Difficulty speaking, sluggish thinking, and amnesia start to appear; inability to use hands and stumbling is also usually present. Cellular metabolic processes shut down. Below 30 °C (86.0 °F), the exposed skin becomes blue and puffy, muscle coordination becomes very poor, walking becomes almost impossible, and the victim exhibits incoherent/irrational behavior including terminal burrowing or even a stupor. Pulse and respiration rates decrease significantly, but fast heart rates (ventricular tachycardia, atrial fibrillation) can occur. Major organs fail. Clinical death occurs. Because of decreased cellular activity in stage 3 hypothermia, the body will actually take longer to undergo brain death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia

 

[mfbmike]

I know I said I was done with this, but I'm starting an argument here.

I don't understand why those two gave up so quickly. I mean, I know with the temperature and the situation you might not think straight, but I don't understand why they did that. And the other guy that thought he saw a light, he shouldn't have tried to swim for it. Didn't they realize that someone was going to come look for them?

it was probably longer than 4 hours but the guy recounting the story was out of it as well (cept he decided to stay onboard) they were all suffering from hypothermia since their bodies started cooling to the temperature of the sea.... when you suffer from hypothermia you come across "paradoxial undressing" where you feel your body is on fire and you take off your clothing.. which would explain why they did this.. it was probably quite a long time in the water before they started doing this

 

[Tailback U]

I don't understand the logic of "It didn't happen to me, so it's funny" Why do events such as those you mentioned have to be funny simply because they didn't happen to you? I'm not saying you have to be saddened, but why be moved either way? Also, its not simply about having to be saddened by the events, but instead having a level of decency in regards to those people who go through tragic events.

I was being completely facetious. But even if I wasn't, who cares, are you actually going to let somebody with such an ignorant attitude get to you? If somebody has that kind of attitude then they are pathetic and not worth the time out of your day to talk to.

 

[brees fan]

haha the ad at the top of the page was for unfolding boats

 

[killgod]

TAMPA, Fla. - An agency investigating a deadly boating accident involving two NFL players and their friends in the Gulf of Mexico has concluded it was a caused when the vessel was improperly anchored and the boat capsized after one of them tried to throttle forward to pry loose the anchor.

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission's investigation also cited carelessness and operator inexperience as contributing factors. The combination of errors also came at the time a storm front was moving in, making conditions on the water very rough.

Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper, free-agent NFL defensive lineman Corey Smith, and former University of South Florida players William Bleakley and Nick Schuyler departed from Clearwater Pass, Fla., early Feb. 28 to go offshore fishing for amberjack.

Schuyler, found clinging to the boat two days later, was the lone survivor. The other three men have not been found.

In an in-depth interview with the agency, Schuyler gave this account of the accident:

Early that morning, the men went more than 80 kilometres offshore in Cooper's 6.5-metre vessel. It was loaded with two large coolers filled with ice, drinks, food and beer. All of the friends were dressed in warm clothes, sweat suits and jackets.

Around 5:30 p.m., they went to pull up the anchor and head back to port, but the anchor was stuck. Bleakley suggested they tie it to the transom and use the boat's motor to pull it loose.

When Cooper tried to thrust the boat forward, the vessel became submerged and capsized, tossing the men overboard. They tried to upright the boat without success. Bleakley swam underneath and was able to retrieve three life vests, a large cooler and a makeshift flotation device.

Bleakley, who Schuyler has credited with saving his life, used the makeshift flotation device, which has been described previously as a cushion. The other three wore the vests.

The men appear to have tried everything in their power to rescue themselves: Schuyler told the agency they tried retrieving and using flares without success. They also tried getting their cell phones, which were in plastic baggies.

They knew how many hours were passing because Schuyler had a watch with a light on and was able to keep track of the time. He said that around 5:30 a.m. the next day, Cooper became unresponsive. Schuyler and Bleakley tried to revive him without success.

Cooper's flotation device was removed and Bleakley put it on. The Oakland Raiders linebacker then became separated from the boat.

About an hour later, Smith started to show "possible extreme symptoms of hypothermia." He removed his flotation device and also became separated from the boat.

The two college teammates were the only ones left. They hung on together for about 24 hours, until Bleakley grew weak and removed his life vest as well.

Schuyler said that his friend appeared to die as he was holding onto him. He let his friend go and Bleakley drifted away.

The Coast Guard released its records on the accident last week. According to the agency, Schuyler told them the boat capsized after their anchor got caught in a reef.

The accuracy of that account was somewhat unclear because Schuyler was suffering from hypothermia and spoke to them shortly after he was pulled from the boat. His doctor said he probably could have only lived another five to 10 hours.

The Coast Guard called off its search after three days of scouring 38,000 kilometres of ocean.

from tsn.ca