Oh joy, a QB rankings list!

[mgoblue2290]

An exchange between Simmons and his editor:

Editor: "Cam and Eli in the top 10? I don't even know what that means!"

Simmons: "Nobody knows what it means, but its provocative, gets the people going!"

 

[NAHSTE]

The Hoyer thing comes completely on the heels of his podcast with Mike Lombardi. Lombardi said the only thing he would have done differently had he landed the 49ers job was sign Hoyer to play QB.

Simmons notoriously just takes what Lombardi says and adds it to his football lexicon. He started calling players "red chippers" or "blue chippers" because of the system Lombardi supposedly created.

This would all be well and good if Lombardi were any kind of football Oracle himself but he's not even the best former NFL GM that the NFL Network employs, let alone a shining football mind in the league.

Just another example of Simmons repackaging other people's analysis into one of his many paint by numbers columns.

Haha. Thanks, I stopped listening to the podcasts but that makes sense.

 

[Senser81]

An exchange between Simmons and his editor:

dave: "Cam and Eli in the top 10? I don't even know what that means!"

Simmons: "Nobody knows what it means, but its provocative, gets the people going!"

dave: "Couldn't you add something that attacks US politics, the US economy, or Americans in general?"

Simmons: "I'm on deadline!"

 

[ZoneBlitz]

There may not be an Andrew Luck every year, but there's a Cam Newton, or a Matt Stafford, or a Matt Ryan, or an Aaron Rodgers or a Ben Roethlisberger or a ... oh wait all these guys were drafted in the last 10 years! That's the part of the Suck for Luck discussion that is being overstated. Andrew Luck is being put on this pedestal as a ONCE IN A GENERATION prospect, but there is no such thing as a once in a generation prospect. We get them every year. Not to mention Bradford was once labeled as such himself. The Rams don't need a QB.

Andrew Luck is a once in a decade prospect. Luck is very likely to be on the same level as Peyton Manning, and except for Aaron Rodgers, none of those players you mentioned are on the same level.

 

[NAHSTE]

Andrew Luck is a once in a decade prospect. Luck is very likely to be on the same level as Peyton Manning, and except for Aaron Rodgers, none of those players you mentioned are on the same level.

So he is a once in a decade prospect just like that other prospect from this decade? Makes sense.

 

[nflman2033]

There may not be an Andrew Luck every year, but there's a Cam Newton, or a Matt Stafford, or a Matt Ryan, or an Aaron Rodgers or a Ben Roethlisberger or a ... oh wait all these guys were drafted in the last 10 years! That's the part of the Suck for Luck discussion that is being overstated. Andrew Luck is being put on this pedestal as a ONCE IN A GENERATION prospect, but there is no such thing as a once in a generation prospect. We get them every year. Not to mention Bradford was once labeled as such himself. The Rams don't need a QB.

Anyway, this is a huge slight on Bradford and an insult to our intelligence.

But you do have to watch out for the JaMarcus Russell, Alex Smith, David Carr, and Tim Couch types.

 

[Houston]

So he is a once in a decade prospect just like that other prospect from this decade? Makes sense.

:joker:

Peyton Manning was a 90's prospect, Luck a '10s.

 

[Senser81]

Andrew Luck is a once in a decade prospect. Luck is very likely to be on the same level as Peyton Manning, and except for Aaron Rodgers, none of those players you mentioned are on the same level.

Manning was considered by many to be the 2nd best QB in his class, behind Ryan Leaf. Ick.

 

[NAHSTE]

:joker:

Peyton Manning was a 90's prospect, Luck a '10s.

And this third guy that ZB mentioned, to whom I was referring, what decade he come out?

Andrew Luckis a once in a decade prospect. Luck is very likely to be on the same level as Peyton Manning, and except for Aaron Rodgers, none of those players you mentioned are on the same level.

 

[EmpireWF]

Still, Rodgers came out in the 2000s. Luck will in the 2010s.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Aaron Rodgers wasnt on anybody's radar as a "once in a decade" prospect, he just happened to become that later on.

 

[JMeist]

Aaron Rodgers wasnt on anybody's radar as a "once in a decade" prospect, he just happened to become that later on.

He was supposed to go #1 overall

 

[ZoneBlitz]

He was supposed to go #1 overall

Except he went 24th overall.

 

[NAHSTE]

Aaron Rodgers wasnt on anybody's radar as a "once in a decade" prospect, he just happened to become that later on.

So what you are saying is the phrase "once in a decade prospect" is complete bullshit and nobody should take it seriously?

That was kind of my point.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

So what you are saying is the phrase "once in a decade prospect" is complete bullshit and nobody should take it seriously?

That was kind of my point.

No i said the complete opposite actually.

Brady & Rodgers werent elite level prospects, Manning was. Luck is expected to be on that level. No draft pick has been expected to be at that level since Manning. Manning was drafted over a decade ago. Its not hard to figure out. Keyword here is prospect.

 

[Youk]

Good to see Peyton Manning on there twice.

 

[NAHSTE]

Going back to what you originally said ...

Andrew Luck is a once in a decade prospect. Luck is very likely to be on the same level as Peyton Manning, and except for Aaron Rodgers, none of those players you mentioned are on the same level.

So since Andrew Luck is expected to be as good as the guy who was drafted six years ago, he's a once in a decade prospect. Got it.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Going back to what you originally said ...

So since Andrew Luck is expected to be as good as the guy who was drafted six years ago, he's a once in a decade prospect. Got it.

What part of "prospect" do you not understand? Rodgers was not a prospect at the same level of Manning & Luck.

 

[NAHSTE]

What part of "prospect" do you not understand? Rodgers was not a prospect at the same level of Manning & Luck.

But Ryan Leaf was. So... it's all bullshit, right?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

You muh fuckers are DYING for Luck to be great right away, without any questions, but its unfair to even put those expectations on the kid, he shouldnt be treated any differently then any other top QB prospect we've ever seen. I really dont think hes going to be as good as people are hoping.