ok cowboys fans...

[Liquidrob]

Eli 'Ice Cold' Manning > Romo, its that simple

Romo is also Nuk approved so that doesnt help

 

[Nukleopatra]

It's about time.
You finally learned the NFL rules of player responsibility. We should have a shayne appreciation thread for helping straighten us out.

It took me long enough... but I think I pretty much got it down pat.

At least if Zona fails this year, I can blame it on Dennis Green.

Thanks, VSN.

 

[Derrville]

lol I guess the playoffs don't count in the NFL.

Ya they dont when its regular season and not the playoffs.

 

[Tailback U]

Ya they dont when its regular season and not the playoffs.

wut

 

[bringbackjimmy]

I meant 1st bad game against the giants. I'll blame coaching if i want. Every decent defense knows exactly what we are doing every fucking play. How many Draws did you see last game? As a OC your supposed to put your players in a position to succeed and JG never does.

Great Game Giants you have better Coaching and it showed.

 

[kmanharris]

I meant 1st bad game against the giants. I'll blame coaching if i want. Every decent defense knows exactly what we are doing every fucking play. How many Draws did you see last game? As a OC your supposed to put your players in a position to succeed and JG never does.

Great Game Giants you have better Coaching and it showed.

God dammit fans like you piss me off.

Last night JG called a pretty good game, aside from the 2nd drive where we came out and passed 3 straight times. Did you see the game last night? The draws and cutbacks worked to perfection.

How do you not put blame on Romo? He made bad throw after bad throw. Yes the pass to Witten was some BS but what about the throw to Crayton or the deep ball to Hurd where he admitted not even seeing the safety? All the blame doesn't go on Romo but a lot does and should.

Also tailback, Newman didn't continuously get torched by Manningham, Scandrick was the one getting burnt and couldn't wrap up for shit. Newman got beat deep once I think and it was on that Manningham touchdown where the ball was bobbled and magically fell into his chest but you can correct me if I am wrong (and I could very well be)

 

[Nukleopatra]

I meant 1st bad game against the giants. I'll blame coaching if i want. Every decent defense knows exactly what we are doing every fucking play. How many Draws did you see last game? As a OC your supposed to put your players in a position to succeed and JG never does.

Great Game Giants you have better Coaching and it showed.

The 2002 Oakland Raiders got to the superbowl doing the same plays over and over again... and I still believe to this very day Bill Callahan is mentally retarded.

You can win with shitty coaching, if you have a quarterback who can run the shit the right way.

 

[strahanfan92]

IDK why people are giving romo a pass on that witten INT when he threw the ball 2 yards behind Jason

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Here at VSN it's never the quarterbacks fault. If half these people ran the show, Ryan Leaf would still be in the league, because it's either....

A. The coaches fault.
B. The defenses fault.
C. The running backs fault.
D. The cheerleader who didn't do the correct dance steps fault.

It all revolves around the quarterback. Yes, having a great team around him, helps, but a great quarterback can lead his team to victories, with a less than stellar defense. Manning has done it, Warner has done it, many guys have done it. What Tony Romo did last night, would deflate any defense good or bad. You can blame Wade Phillips, because as usual, the coach will take the blame, but that shit last night, is on Tony Romo. He questioned his leadership, and made that one of his main priorites during the offseason, which is a respectable thing to do... but last night was ridiculous. He made throws that I used to make back in highschool.

The best teams in the league will go as far as their quarterbacks take them.. Even Minnesota, will find it hard to overcome another Favre breakdown late in the season. If Tony Romo doesn't step up, he should not only get the blame, but he should take it, as well.

Noone should be freeing Romo from blame. But I dont understand why this is a revelation he doesnt do well in pressure spots ?
How does the coaching staff not realize this already ?
This isnt a mid season tweak...they've seen this 2 off seasons now and refuse to adjust. 250 yards on the ground yet the pressure is still put on Romo to win the game.

Last night JG called a pretty good game, aside from the 2nd drive where we came out and passed 3 straight times. Did you see the game last night? The draws and cutbacks worked to perfection.

No he did not. 2 interceptions where the NYG were EXACTLY where the ball was thrown. That audible and that safety playing that spot werent massive coincidences. One teams coaching staff prepared there team the other didnt.
Romo cant be the focal point of this offense. Removing TO and the blossoming of the RBs last year should have solidified a change.

 

[kmanharris]

No he did not. 2 interceptions where the NYG were EXACTLY where the ball was thrown. That audible and that safety playing that spot werent massive coincidences. One teams coaching staff prepared there team the other didnt.
Romo cant be the focal point of this offense. Removing TO and the blossoming of the RBs last year should have solidified a change.

lol at blaming that pick to the safety on JG. Romo said he didn't see him, that one was all on Romo.

 

[kmanharris]

IDK why people are giving romo a pass on that witten INT when he threw the ball 2 yards behind Jason

I am not giving him a pass on the bad throw but the interception was a fluke. He bounced off of Witten's foot right into the arms of Phillips. Obviously a better throw wouldn't have resulted in an interception but it wasn't like he threw it to Phillips. It was incredibly unlucky.

 

[strahanfan92]

yeah but if witten didn't get a hand on it I think phillips might have got it... idk i need to watch it again

 

[bringbackjimmy]

God dammit fans like you piss me off.

Last night JG called a pretty good game, aside from the 2nd drive where we came out and passed 3 straight times. Did you see the game last night? The draws and cutbacks worked to perfection.

How do you not put blame on Romo? He made bad throw after bad throw. Yes the pass to Witten was some BS but what about the throw to Crayton or the deep ball to Hurd where he admitted not even seeing the safety? All the blame doesn't go on Romo but a lot does and should.

Also tailback, Newman didn't continuously get torched by Manningham, Scandrick was the one getting burnt and couldn't wrap up for shit. Newman got beat deep once I think and it was on that Manningham touchdown where the ball was bobbled and magically fell into his chest but you can correct me if I am wrong (and I could very well be)

Just because some of the draws worked last night doesn't mean its good gameplanning...I have the last half of last season to show you that draws don't work when they are your only running plays.there was a reason Tony didn't see the safety did you see how far he was when the play started it was like he was going back for a punt return(once again the players know exactly what play is called and where its going).

That pass to crayton in double coverage was a perfect throw that a good WR would of caught. Did Tony have a bad Game? NO he had a terrible game that was a result of lack of good playcalling and lack of talent at WR.

And Nuk. Last time i checked Gannon still had Rice And brown to throw too. that kind of helps...

 

[kmanharris]

Just because some of the draws worked last night doesn't mean its good gameplanning...I have the last half of last season to show you that draws don't work when they are your only running plays.there was a reason Tony didn't see the safety did you see how far he was when the play started it was like he was going back for a punt return(once again the players know exactly what play is called and where its going).

That pass to crayton in double coverage was a perfect throw that a good WR would of caught. Did Tony have a bad Game? NO he had a terrible game that was a result of lack of good playcalling and lack of talent at WR.

And Nuk. Last time i checked Gannon still had Rice And brown to throw too. that kind of helps...

If it was such bad gameplanning wouldn't the Giants have shut down our run game? So JG calls a pass play where Hurd goes on a deep post and it is his fault that Romo didn't see the safety and threw it right to him? What about the other WRs?

You cannot blame Romo's bad game on the playcalling. He didn't call a fantastic game but it was a solid game imo. JG just calls the plays and Romo is the one who has to deliver.

I am sure that pass to Witten that was behind him was JG's fault too? Or the one where he overthrew Jones who was 3 yards in front of him.

 

[Nukleopatra]

And Nuk. Last time i checked Gannon still had Rice And brown to throw too. that kind of helps...

Pfft. Two words.

Bill Callahan.

 

[Rayman]

Even I have no issue with saying Romo sucked out loud yesterday.

Come on, man. Garrett and Phillips aren't without blame, but for once, this one is actually all on the quarterback.

 

[Herm]

I dont mind at all to say my titans have sucked ass this year, i dont go making excuses for them when they lose.

The cowboys fans around here who think Newman is a top 5 cb yet game after game we see him get torched and they blamed it on the safeties, the linebackers, the other cb, anyone but him. Cowboys fans around here are by far the most obnoxious bunch on the board. You would think it would be steelers fans as the most obnoxious you know because they've recently won two super bowls but most of them are pretty sensible. I'll admit i didnt see the whole game but from what i did see Steve Smith and Mario Manningham were wide open for passes and it was Terrence Newman's imaginary coverage that they were catching it over.

I like Romo as a qb but so many of you make excuses for him every time he blows it, its laughable.

 

[bringbackjimmy]

Where in my post did i say romo was without blame? I just said i blame JG gameplanning more as evidence by 2 of romo's picks the Giants knew where the ball was going before the fucking ball was snapped. Just because the Giants have a bad run d doesn't our run game great. We have a fucking bruiser back in Barber and choice and a speed guy with Felix to go along with a line made for run blocking so instead of calling power and strech plays we are calling 100 draws? It worked somewhat last game, but it won't work for long.

I don't really fucking care anymore. If you guys are fine with the red-headed dumbass and cupcake throw Romo to the wolves in the offseason just like we did with TO last offseason and next yr we will suck even more...7-9 or 8-8 is the best we will do with JG and Wade.

Fuck Cowboy fans who are happy to have coaches that has the same game plan every week..

 

[Rayman]

I dont mind at all to say my titans have sucked ass this year, i dont go making excuses for them when they lose.

The cowboys fans around here who think Newman is a top 5 cb yet game after game we see him get torched and they blamed it on the safeties, the linebackers, the other cb, anyone but him. Cowboys fans around here are by far the most obnoxious bunch on the board. You would think it would be steelers fans as the most obnoxious you know because they've recently won two super bowls but most of them are pretty sensible. I'll admit i didnt see the whole game but from what i did see Steve Smith and Mario Manningham were wide open for passes and it was Terrence Newman's imaginary coverage that they were catching it over.

I like Romo as a qb but so many of you make excuses for him every time he blows it, its laughable.

Newman was awful the other night, but I stand by every word I've ever said about him. He has never looked that bad since he's been in the league. Not even close.

I'm hoping he isn't one of those guys who ages quickly. We need better from him.

 

[Rayman]

Where in my post did i say romo was without blame? I just said i blame JG gameplanning more as evidence by 2 of romo's picks the Giants knew where the ball was going before the fucking ball was snapped. Just because the Giants have a bad run d doesn't our run game great. We have a fucking bruiser back in Barber and choice and a speed guy with Felix to go along with a line made for run blocking so instead of calling power and strech plays we are calling 100 draws? It worked somewhat last game, but it won't work for long.

I don't really fucking care anymore. If you guys are fine with the red-headed dumbass and cupcake throw Romo to the wolves in the offseason just like we did with TO last offseason and next yr we will suck even more...7-9 or 8-8 is the best we will do with JG and Wade.

Fuck Cowboy fans who are happy to have coaches that has the same game plan every week..

And I never said I wanted either the Marshmallow Man or Howdy Doody back on the coaching staff.

Face it, Romo doesn't make those boneheaded throws if there's someone on the sideline he fears and respects waiting to let him hear about it. Parcells had that presence, but when he left, Jerry went in the opposite direction.

Dumb.