Pats to Cut Haynesworth or Ocho

[manchild24]

An NFL executive "familiar with the Patriots ways" has told the National Football Post he expects New England to cut "one or both" of Albert Haynesworth and Chad Ochocinco before the regular season begins.
The source believes Patriots HC Bill Belichick will "use the controversial players to help control and send a message to his locker room." Haynesworth has just a $1.5 million base salary this season, while Ochocinco is making $1 million. Haynesworth is the more likely of the two to be cut, but the odds don't seem particularly high either is gone before Week 1.

 

[Len B]

What the fuck?

Oh, it says a guy expects it, not that he knows it will happen.

Cuts or GTFO.

 

[Len B]

An NFL executive "familiar with the Patriots ways" has told the National Football Post he expects New England to cut "one or both" of Albert Haynesworth and Chad Ochocinco before the regular season begins.
The source believes Patriots HC Bill Belichick will "use the controversial players to help control and send a message to his locker room." Haynesworth has just a $1.5 million base salary this season, while Ochocinco is making $1 million. Haynesworth is the more likely of the two to be cut, but the odds don't seem particularly high either is gone before Week 1.

Contradict much?

 

[manchild24]

I just read it and thought it was funny with all the talk about how great they are doing. Now I dont care if Haynesworth gets cut, but I'd to see Ocho with a real shot at a ring.

 

[Maynard]

seems like a bad move either way. how is cutting either one going to send a message? neither one has any tenure with the pats so its not like they would be cutting Malloy or something. plus if Hansworth got cut i think most would chalk it up as a carry over from his redskins ending and wouldnt give it a second thought.

Both are making very low salaries and both have talent. seems like having them on the roster is a win for the pats

EDIT the more i think about this i have to say that whoever this retard is thats supposedly quoting a source close to the team...is full of shit and creating a story where there isnt one. The media was bad enough before the explosion of the internet and social media....but now a days there are 9 million worthless bloggers out there trying to make a name in a flooded profession

Media = Terrorism

 

[PP]

lolololololol

 

[PP]

Both players restructured their deals and took pay cuts... BB has never restructured a contract and then cut the player the same season.. lol @ this jabroni's article. I am with Maynard... the guy had nothin to write about so came up with this garbage. Lets not forget the way BB collects draft picks he wouldn't just trade for these guys with an intention of sending his players a message.. what message do they need? Their backups came out and blew out their opponent in the first pre-season game.

 

[Hasselbeck]

The unnamed executive was probably Bill Belichick just jedi mind fucking the rest of the NFL

 

[EmpireWF]

Contradict much?

The top is what the unnamed source told whoever. The bottom is rotoworld's (I think) opinion.

 

[Aso]

It won't happen.

Anyways, what message would they be sending. Didn't the Patriots just pay Ocho 4.5 million? Would that message be "We like to bring in good players, pay them 4-5 mil, and then cut them before they even play a regular season snap for us."?

I sure as hell don't see Haynesworth getting cut. The source who said this is just bonehead stupid. It should be ignored because it doesn't make the least bit of sense.

 

[manchild24]

The top is what the unnamed source told whoever. The bottom is rotoworld's (I think) opinion.

thats where I read that and here is what Yardbarker said

According to Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston, when the New England Patriots restructured the contracts of both defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth and wide receiver Chad Ochocinco, it gave the Patriots the ability to release either player with a very minimal financial loss due to a low amount of bonus money in their new deals.

Dan Pompei of the National Football Post has indicated that an NFL executive that he’s spoken with believes either one or both Haynesworth and Ochocinco could possibly be released before the regular season begins.

Depending on whether or not Haynesworth can stay healthy and produce on the field, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Patriots did end up releasing him before the season begins.

On the other hand I don’t believe it would make sense to part ways with Ochocinco since the Patriots don’t have a number one receiver. I know they can do a lot with their two tight end sets. But let’s be honest, teams will figure out a way to shut their passing game down without a legitimate go to receiver. I know you can argue that Wes Welker is a go to guy. He is able to make plays when they’re needed. But let’s be honest, he’s not a true number one receiver. He’s simply a great complimentary player.

 

[Diivox]

But let’s be honest, teams will figure out a way to shut their passing game down without a legitimate go to receiver. I know you can argue that Wes Welker is a go to guy. He is able to make plays when they’re needed. But let’s be honest, he’s not a true number one receiver. He’s simply a great complimentary player.

The thing that makes Tom Brady such an amazing quarterback is that he distributes the ball so well. he gets the most out of his guys, and the recieving numbers of his players are very close together I had to go take a look at the stats here.

this is incredible. look at how even the yardage distribution is. Tom Brady doesn't really need a "number one reciever". (more on this in a moment) Even still, Wes Welker had 87 catches last year. I don't know how you get more "number one" than 87 catches.

Taking a look at a few other teams with quality QBs:

Packers:

Greg Jennings is the fucking man. incredible YPC, impressive yardage totals. but still caught less balls than Welker, and there was a significant drop-off from Jennings to the other guys. Crazy to look at how Driver's play has dropped off.

It's almost apples and oranges to compare the two teams, but just for arguments sake, ok, so Reggie Wayne is "true number one". That's the colts though. theres practically no comparison between the coaching philosophies of those two teams. In other words.... Manning needs a true number one. Tom Brady doesn't.

NO gets by without a "true number one" pretty well too. Colston is probably the best comparison to Welker, and you never hear anything about how the Saint's are desperate for recievers, or are in danger of being figured out, or how the team is hamstrung by its wideouts.

Now here's a team that really needs some fucking help at reciever. How Phillip Rivers threw for 4700 yards with this kind of shit production I don't know. I guess that's just a testament to how good the guy is. Anyway, if theres a team that your argument applies to, it's SD. that offense is smoke and mirrors.

New England on the other hand is going to be fine with or without Chad Johnson.

Anyway, this report is like alot of the "news" these days, where it's just some guy guessing something and it's being reported as some kind of scoop. it's somebody throwing shit up against the wall who will look good if it sticks and if it doesn't, nobody will remember because nobody really cares that much.

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

I remember when their were rumors of Moss getting cut before the 2007 season.

 

[steeljake]

so two top tier players are making a combined 2.5 mil and someone thinks they will get cut? gtfo.

 

[KoRnStARr]

The rumors were heavy on Moss getting cut before the 07 season as someone already stated... They leaked this bad rumor themselves because they feel they could get some kind of advantage out of it.

 

[steeljake]

The rumors were heavy on Moss getting cut before the 07 season as someone already stated... They leaked this bad rumor themselves because they feel they could get some kind of advantage out of it.

wtf are you doing here? there are no cheese leagues for you to join... go back to OS and the gamer's slab.

 

[Deviant]

The thing that makes Tom Brady such an amazing quarterback is that he distributes the ball so well. he gets the most out of his guys, and the recieving numbers of his players are very close together I had to go take a look at the stats here.

this is incredible. look at how even the yardage distribution is. Tom Brady doesn't really need a "number one reciever". (more on this in a moment) Even still, Wes Welker had 87 catches last year. I don't know how you get more "number one" than 87 catches.

Taking a look at a few other teams with quality QBs:

Packers:

Greg Jennings is the fucking man. incredible YPC, impressive yardage totals. but still caught less balls than Welker, and there was a significant drop-off from Jennings to the other guys. Crazy to look at how Driver's play has dropped off.

It's almost apples and oranges to compare the two teams, but just for arguments sake, ok, so Reggie Wayne is "true number one". That's the colts though. theres practically no comparison between the coaching philosophies of those two teams. In other words.... Manning needs a true number one. Tom Brady doesn't.

New England on the other hand is going to be fine with or without Chad Johnson.

Yeah, but Brady distributes the ball well simply because he has to. When Randy Moss was on the Patriots, distribution absolutely went out the fucking window. It was all Toss2Moss. After Moss and Welker, no one else really mattered.

I think it's unfair to say that Manning needs a true number one. I think he has just been blessed in a franchise that has been able to draft Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. I would argue that Manning is a better distributor than Brady though, especially considering that he's the only QB in NFL history to have a season in which three receivers had 65+ rec, 1000+ yards, and 10+ TDs.

Also, keep in mind that Dallas Clark was injured practically less than halfway threw the season and still has numbers close to Aaron Hernandez. The fact that Jacob Tamme came in and had the season he had coming in halfway should speak volumes to Manning's ability to distribute.

Welker is a difficult receiver to talk about. Honestly, he's not their number one guy. He's just a really good slot receiver--essentially a receiving running back. It's all short routes for Welker--screens, short outs, comebacks. It's plays that allow him to turn into a running back. I mean, the guy's 15th in the NFL in YAC this season, yet 30th in receiving yards. In fact, half of his receiving yardage comes after the catch and that's remarkable considering that he averages just under 10 yards a catch. I think that Welker's ability to get his yardage should be more of a credit than Brady distributing. No offense to Brady, he's phenomenal, but I still think Rodgers and Manning are better distributors.