Questioning the NFL's Drug Testing Program

[the Brain]

You would be a great NFL Commissioner. The league's popularity would reach new heights under your regime.

Why do you think the NFL should not be policing off the field conduct?

The job of policing off the field conduct belongs to the police & prosecutors. And if the public becomes outraged cause a sentence doesn't fit the crime, it is up to them to force change by getting the gov to change the laws. It's not Goodell's fault Vick is free after dog fighting. It's the lawmakers fault for making the punishment less than 5 years. It's not the Ravens responsibility to make Rice pay for hitting his wife. That was Vegas'. Make the jury sentences tougher and they won't have a career to go back to.

The NFL, which is to say, Goodell, does a horrible job because he allows PR & the media to dictate who gets what, what gets what. If the laws of the country don't address a situation, do we really think corporate america is best suited to fill in the morality gap? Has the threat of Goodell's wrath done anything to prevent NFL players from ending up on the police blotter? I've noticed zero change.

People are looking in the wrong direction to fix the law & order problems of the country. Go after the politicians, law enforcement etc that allows money power & fame to behave badly & get away with it. It's not up to the commissioners to fix it. What's worse we've created a situation where a person (not saying so w/Rice or Vick) can do absolutely nothing illegal & have his job in peril because it was a slow news day & the intolerant media stokes public outcry.

 

[the Brain]

You HAVE to police off field conduct. Its about image... It happens in the real world as well.

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Examples? What biz fired someone for something they did that had absolutely nothing to do w/their employment? The only people I know of that get fired for off the field matters are public figures.

 

[buckeye]

Examples? What biz fired someone for something they did that had absolutely nothing to do w/their employment? The only people I know of that get fired for off the field matters are public figures.

Nearly every publicly viewed business on the planet... Especially sports.

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[Senser81]

the Brain just lost an argument to buckeye. Thats like firing up Mike Tyson's Punch Out and losing to Glass Joe.

Congrats to both combatants.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I think the only reason Goodell cares is the same reason NFL is dressed up in bitchpink for months. He wants to attract Female audiences not scare them away. Other than that I dont think he gives a hoot and this would have been another barely visible blip on the radar. NFL has been 'dealing' with this for eons.

 

[the Brain]

I'll admit to getting owned when someone provides an example.

 

[SethMode]

I'll admit to getting owned when someone provides an example.

Well there is this rather famous story:

http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/...ture-of-herself-holding-beer-on-facebook.html

Speaking from experience, I'm surprised you think that this isn't something that happens, particularly with Social Media. A friend of mine works for a major loan provider, and just this year two people were fired for content that was deemed "could reflect poorly on the company". One was a picture of a guy passed out drunk with the word "dick" written on his head. The other was of a woman at a club dressed in extremely revealing clothing. Because where these people worked could be found on their Facebook pages, they both were canned.

Hell, the same guy told me they had to go through a crazy training session about how behavior outside of work can negatively impact the company and how to steer clear of it to avoid repercussions.

Even closer to home, the private school that I went to in High School outright said: end up in the newspaper or something bad that might reflect the school as a whole, and you will be expelled. Three guys were expelled for ending up being in a story about a keg party that was broken up when I was a senior.

 

[the Brain]

Well there is this rather famous story:

http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/...ture-of-herself-holding-beer-on-facebook.html

Speaking from experience, I'm surprised you think that this isn't something that happens, particularly with Social Media. A friend of mine works for a major loan provider, and just this year two people were fired for content that was deemed "could reflect poorly on the company". One was a picture of a guy passed out drunk with the word "dick" written on his head. The other was of a woman at a club dressed in extremely revealing clothing. Because where these people worked could be found on their Facebook pages, they both were canned.

Hell, the same guy told me they had to go through a crazy training session about how behavior outside of work can negatively impact the company and how to steer clear of it to avoid repercussions.

Even closer to home, the private school that I went to in High School outright said: end up in the newspaper or something bad that might reflect the school as a whole, and you will be expelled. Three guys were expelled for ending up being in a story about a keg party that was broken up when I was a senior.

Well, i guess in this age of Twitter & facebook, this type of thing will be more common. I've heard of people not being hired because of what they put out on the internet, but not fired.

But I will point out it has not been established that the school could fire her because of her facebook page. The people fired for their facebook pages shouldn't have been linking themselves w/their employment then put suggestive material along with it. A private school has a right to make rules about what kind of student they want attending their school. A public school can't do the same thing.

But I totally disagree with it regardless. What you do off the clock is your biz & has nothing to do w/your job performance. What you do on the job is your employer's right to police. What you do away from it is the police's job to police.

 

[Senser81]

I'll admit to getting owned when someone provides an example.

Uh, ok...

Examples? What biz fired someone for something they did that had absolutely nothing to do w/their employment? The only people I know of that get fired for off the field matters are public figures.