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Revisiting the 2004 Draft

Eli scored 17 points against the greatest offense of all time.

I'm pretty sure he didn't win that Super Bowl.

If he would have scored 35. That would be a different story.

But the defense played so well that 17 points won the game.

And if it wasn't for a lucky ass catch... 10 Points is what he would have scored.
 
Eli scored 17 points against the greatest offense of all time.

I'm pretty sure he didn't win that Super Bowl.

If he would have scored 35. That would be a different story.

But the defense played so well that 17 points won the game.

And if it wasn't for a lucky ass catch... 10 Points is what he would have scored.

i disagree completly , he made the drive when his team needed him most , fuck fluke , idc if it bounced of 11 pats players hands then tyree caught it. He drove his team for 7 when they needed it most . He had a huge part in their win as did there defence . Sure hes not a top 5 qb , maybe not even top 10 but your talking like he didnt help them win a superbowl. He played solid all playoffs also if your not forgetting , he got lucky so what , hes gonna get unlucky at some point in his carrer too or probably has .
 
Eli scored 17 points against the greatest offense of all time.

I'm pretty sure he didn't win that Super Bowl.

If he would have scored 35. That would be a different story.

But the defense played so well that 17 points won the game.

And if it wasn't for a lucky ass catch... 10 Points is what he would have scored.

Ok so by your 35 theory , tony romo has won 2 games this season . V philly and San Fran , also got 34 v seattle and thats it , so maybe we could call it 3 . 3 games won impressive stuff .

So romo is 3/12 , damn thats some nice d and special teams you got , winning you 9 games by thesmelves .

See how retarded that looks when you put your theory into use?
 
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Ok so by your 35 theory , tony romo has won 2 games this season . V philly and San Fran , also got 34 v seattle and thats it , so maybe we could call it 3 . 3 games won impressive stuff .

So romo is 3/12 , damn thats some nice d and special teams you got , winning you 9 games by thesmelves .

See how retarded that looks when you put your theory into use?

Ahem,

My point is. The greatest offense of all time would have put up 35 points if they weren't going against such a great defense. The defense is the Reason why they only had to score 17 points to win the game. AGAINST THE GREATEST OFFENSE OF ALL TIME! Eli only had to put up 17 that game, and if the defense didn't play so well, he probably would have had to put up 35 to win. I'm not talking like you need to score 35 to get the job done. However, if he would have scored 35... seeing that New England probably would have scored 35, I then would say Eli Manning was worthy.

See how retarded you look when you don't get my point?
 
lol wow @ you being an illiterate piece of shit. I used their entire career stats, try reading more than just the first line of a post before commenting.



Oh yes, I missed the missed sack. Definitely. Eli make a good play to escape the pressure, but 9/10 times that pass is NOT going to be caught. And you know it.

Eli scored 17 points against the greatest offense of all time.

I'm pretty sure he didn't win that Super Bowl.

If he would have scored 35. That would be a different story.

But the defense played so well that 17 points won the game.

And if it wasn't for a lucky ass catch... 10 Points is what he would have scored.

lol you guys must of not been watching football for long. There isnt any fucking luck in football....anything can happens. According to your theory Hail marys are luck, dropped passes are luck, amazing catches are luck, the immaculate reception was luck, and players breaking a shitload of tackles on there way into the endzone is luck.
 
lol i got what u ment wildcard , but you hate manning no matter what , so i tried to use some romo based theorys to prove it wrong . Meh what can you do. The guy HELPED them win the sb , he wasnt Mvp but he helped for sure . And i know the dallas d can win games on there own lol , forget it:-(

Go back to the hating eli thread .
 
All that it comes down to FOR ME is that when his team needed him he drove them down for the sb win , luck or no luck , i dont really care , he did what he had to do . He played solid all playoffs and by most peoples counts had a pretty good postseason. I dont think hes better than romo btw , but hell if we didnt have Peyton id have him in my team
 
Nope. None at all. I hate football. Football sucks, I'd rather watch some completely homo sport like baseball. <_<

Hail Mary's are 90% luck. Dropped passes and amazing catches are concentration, or lack of it. The Immaculate Reception was luck and concentration. And for the record, those all have nothing to do with my theory at all.

My theory was simply that Tyree's catch on the helmet was a lucky catch. Look at his career numbers, and tell me that he has the talent to make that catch without getting lucky as shit. He doesn't. I don't see how that's even an argument.

Forget the fact that it was even Tyree. There are not many receivers in the NFL at ALL that can make that catch without Lady Luck.
 
Ben. He's streaky at times, but Eli's mediocre all the time.

I'd rather have a consistent quarterback, at least you know what you're going to get. That's how players like Trent Dilfer and Eli Manning win Superbowls, the team knows what they can handle and they don't put all the weight on their shoulders. That's not a bad thing at all. Actually, to me it's a good thing. Obviously skill is important, but consistency might be more important to me.
 
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Surprised Philip Rivers isn't getting as much love. I know a couple of people said him, but to me he might end up being the best QB of the three (this coming from a guy who hates the Chargers and thinks Ben Roeth is the man).

IMHO Eli is the worst of the three taken early.
 
I would of taken Phillip Rivers, he is a true team leader, who is very outspoken and can back it up on the field. This year he is putting up amazing stats and about to lead his team to the playoffs without a defense. I would take Phillip Rivers in a heartbeat, Ben second, but I still believe Eli is highly overrated.
 
Phillip Rivers

the guy is going to lead theleague in TD Passes and QB Rating, all while having no running game and only havign Gates and Jackson to throw to.
 
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Why are there people ripping Eli and his Super Bowl performance and the lucky catch? Anyone remember Roethlisberger's Super Bowl performance? Of course you don't, because he sucked hard in that game. Eli was far more deserving of his Super Bowl victory than Roethlisberger's.
 
True enough, Roethlisberger had the worst performance by a winning QB in Super Bowl history. That whole playoff run was pretty ugly for Ben, just shows you how well-rounded that team was despite being a 6th seed. Little bit of luck thrown in too, of course.
 
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