Sapp says Josh Freeman will be an MVP candidate

[Blick]

Thats all mute when you lose to the Lions at home with the playoffs on the line.

Bucs' Playoff Hopes Silenced

Fans Incapable of Speech

 

[Blade]

I actually see a younger McNabb when I watch Freeman play. The guy scrambles and throws like McNabb with the birds in his first 5 seasons. Difference is that Freeman is actually taller and faster than McNabb.

 

[Youk]

:jonesy:

 

[BigBucs]

Haters still hating.

 

[Aso]

I don't think I've ever seen Freeman make guys miss like McNabb did.

 

[Blick]

Freeman doesn't have McNabb's running ability. He always has been and always will be more of a pocket passer.

 

[PEYMAN18]

Freeman played an easy schedule last year, very easy. He went 2-5 against Playoff teams and 8-1 against non-playoff teams.

He has a much much harder schedule this year, playing against the NFC North, AFC South, all while competing against two of the best teams in the NFC with New Orleans and Atlanta.

I believe he can do well next year, but he won't be a contender because, well, I don't think the Bucs will be in the playoffs next year, their schedule is just too hard, and no playoffs means no MVP.

 

[Blade]

Freeman doesn't have McNabb's running ability. He always has been and always will be more of a pocket passer.

Plenty of scrambles in here that prove you wrong.....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFmF9DcZ1k[/ame]

Plus as much of an Eagles and McNabb fan I am, I have hard time saying this, but this guy is actually better than him in all aspects at similar points in both their careers. He will probably turn out a better QB than McNabb in the end.

 

[Aso]

Freeman looks more like Daunte Culpepper when he runs than Donovan McNabb. Do you remember McNabb's scrambles? Freeman doesn't run like McNabb did when he was young.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Freeman reminds me of Big Ben. Big, tough to bring down, and somehow becomes a better QB on 3rd downs and 4th quarters. Both are big, tall, and both can scramble well enough to pick up those first downs with their feet if they have to.

 

[Blick]

Plenty of scrambles in here that prove you wrong.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFmF9DcZ1k

Plus as much of an Eagles and McNabb fan I am, I have hard time saying this, but this guy is actually better than him in all aspects at similar points in both their careers. He will probably turn out a better QB than McNabb in the end.

More throws from the pocket there to prove me right...

LOLhighlights...look, Freeman is a good athlete, but to compare his running ability to a young McNabb is idiotic. In his second season, McNabb tucked the ball 86 times for 629 yards. Last year, in Freeman's second season, he only carried 68 times for 364 yards.

Freeman is a good scrambler/runner, but he only runs when he absolutely has to. He doesn't rely on his legs that much, and he never has. In college, when QB's can get away with running all over the place, Freeman actually had NEGATIVE rushing yardage in 2/3 seasons. Look it up.

Is Freeman athletic enough to make plays with his legs? Yes. Does he do a good job of escaping the rush and extending plays kinda like Big Ben? Absolutely. But, he's always been a west coast offense guy that has done a lot more throwing than running. He's never been a big runner, and his rushing attempts will only go down as he gets more comfortable reading defenses.

EDIT: To be fair, Blade, I agree that Freeman is more advanced as a passer than McNabb was at the same age. He might turn out to be a better player, but it's way too early to say right now. If he had a similar career to McNabb, I would take that in a heartbeat for a guy that was looked at by a lot of people as a reach and potential bust.

 

[Survivor]

More throws from the pocket there to prove me right...

LOLhighlights...look, Freeman is a good athlete, but to compare his running ability to a young McNabb is idiotic. In his second season, McNabb tucked the ball 86 times for 629 yards. Last year, in Freeman's second season, he only carried 68 times for 364 yards.

Freeman is a good scrambler/runner, but he only runs when he absolutely has to. He doesn't rely on his legs that much, and he never has. In college, when QB's can get away with running all over the place, Freeman actually had NEGATIVE rushing yardage in 2/3 seasons. Look it up.

Is Freeman athletic enough to make plays with his legs? Yes. Does he do a good job of escaping the rush and extending plays kinda like Big Ben? Absolutely. But, he's always been a west coast offense guy that has done a lot more throwing than running. He's never been a big runner, and his rushing attempts will only go down as he gets more comfortable reading defenses.

He is similar to Roethlisberger in the mobility department. He is hard to bring down and just quick enough to get him out of trouble.

 

[Blick]

Yeah, the Big Ben comparison makes more sense than the McNabb comparison.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Thread title edited for clarity :smug:

 

[Blick]

I don't know if Sapp honestly believes this. NAHSTE had it right on the first response.

 

[Senser81]

Freeman has Roethlisberger's mobility and McNabb's accuracy. That definitely screams "MVP" to me.

 

[Saluki]

I refuse to watch that video cuz im lazy. But if he was talking about this year he was clearly smoking that good shit before work. If he was talking about the future then i could see him being an MVP candidate at some point in his career...I mean even Dante Culpepper was an MVP candidate for 1 season (And that was one of Randy Mosses worst seasons in purple, surprisingly enough....even tho he did manage to get 13 TDs still) , and he has the potential to be TONS better than that.

 

[Blick]

Freeman has Roethlisberger's mobility and McNabb's accuracy. That definitely screams "MVP" to me.

Yeah, except it took McNabb 6 years to finally complete 60% of his passes in a season and Freeman has already done that.

 

[Blick]

I refuse to watch that video cuz im lazy. But if he was talking about this year he was clearly smoking that good shit before work. If he was talking about the future then i could see him being an MVP candidate at some point in his career...I mean even Dante Culpepper was an MVP candidate for 1 season (And that was one of Randy Mosses worst seasons in purple, surprisingly enough....even tho he did manage to get 13 TDs still) , and he has the potential to be TONS better than that.

He was talking about this upcoming season, but the idea behind the discussion was to make a bold statement about the NFC South.

 

[Senser81]

Yeah, except it took McNabb 6 years to finally complete 60% of his passes in a season and Freeman has already done that.

McNabb career completion percentage: 58.9%

Freeman career completion percentage: 58.8%