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Seattle Mariners

Give Beltre time, he is a notorious slow starter and if you remember what we had at third for the longest stretch, Beltre is a god send. He saves a ton of runs each year just with his defense.

But Betancourt needs to go, although in the past week he has drawn timely walks when we needed it.

Silva is supposedly moving to the pen with Vargas or Olson taking a rotation spot, thank god.
 
I just hate seeing us down 5-0 and Beltre goes up there swinging to hit a 700 ft shot with no one on base. Plus, the M's are paying him to hit .320 with 40 HR's plus his solid D. I wonder if that last year in LA was a fluke or if he took some Manny kool aid.
 
Like I said, give him some time and let the season progress. I full expect him to level around the .265-.270 mark with 20+ and 80+. Sure its not what we are paying for, but its far better than anything we have in the past and solid enough to help a team win. He's always been somewhat of a free swinger, so I'm used to that, but as opposed to a guy like Betancourt he has the capability of drawing walks and pulling the ball.
 
He is a FA after this year right? I hope we reload with some more talent when his contract is up. It seems like Seattle is unable to develop any of their offensive minor leaguers. A-Rod was the last one to make it.
 
If we can get him at a cheaper price, I don't think there should be any question in trying to resign him. However we got Tui coming up the system, but I'm unsure about his long term prospects as an everyday MLB third base guy.

Otherwise we got Truinfel who will be a short or a third baseman. He is a few years away though and his injury does not help, but he is the best prospect we have had since Felix.

I don't understand saying we have failed to develop any offensive players. You mean high level offensive guys? I'd say Lopez has been a success so far, but your right in the low number there has been. But that is what will change with the new regime, Bavasi looked for quick fixes; however everyone who he signed basically sucked. Jack Z is lauded for his talent to draft quality prospects and oversee a flourishing minor league system.

With the next draft expect Dustin Ackley, a first baseman from North Carolina to be the pick. He will most likely move to a corner outfield spot, but this kid may be the best hitter in the country. Grant Green, a short from USC is a possibility, but he has failed to produce at his expected level this season. There also is a chance a starting pitcher could be picked because of Morrow and Aumont becoming relievers, but I'd say bet on Ackley being in the system this summer. With him, we could have something special.
 
When I say top offensive guy, I mean someone who can be a .300 hitter with 30 HR. I was glad when we hired Jack Z. He was responsible for Fielder and Braun in Milwuakee. Since 2002 this club has needed help on offense and besides the mistake of signing Sexson and Beltre hasn't been able to get any solid guys. If we can sign Beltre to 2-4 mill less than he is currently making I'm for it. BUT, we need that 40+ HR guy in our lineup. Griffey, Buhner, Martinez and A-Rod were those guys, then Boone in 2001 but since we haven't had one.
 
PNovak said:
When I say top offensive guy, I mean someone who can be a .300 hitter with 30 HR. I was glad when we hired Jack Z. He was responsible for Fielder and Braun in Milwuakee. Since 2002 this club has needed help on offense and besides the mistake of signing Sexson and Beltre hasn't been able to get any solid guys. If we can sign Beltre to 2-4 mill less than he is currently making I'm for it. BUT, we need that 40+ HR guy in our lineup. Griffey, Buhner, Martinez and A-Rod were those guys, then Boone in 2001 but since we haven't had one.
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Thats very tough to come by. Jose can be a .300 hitter who drives in 75+, and that is considered very successful. Out of all of the players in the organization, if one develops into that your considered lucky.

But like I said, keep an eye out for Ackley. He is a guy who could fit that mold. Can't wait for the draft with all the early round picks we have. Jack will really be able to restock the farm system.
 
The last few seasons I have really liked Lopez. This year it looks as though he doesn't care, or isn't trying. I could see him being a .280 20HR 75 RBI guy though. I'll take that from a 2B any day.
I consider all these guys big disappointments from our farm system.

Reed
Balentien ( Still needs to be given a better shot )
Clement ( Maybe if he moves to 1st )
Bucky Jacobsen ( Had a great start but then fizzled big time. )

Adam Jones ( Now he is doing well but the year he was on the club he didn't do squat. )
 
He'll be a nice doubles guy in the majors, I think he gets called up late season and has a strong chance at the starting job next spring. I' actually pretty excited to see what he can do at the major league level, he destroyed in Spring Training. But we got some good first baseman with him and Dennis Rabean in our system.

But yay, finally a win today. Nice to Jr. hit a homer.
 
Beltre strung together 2 solid games as well. Read the hitting coach found something bad with his swing two days ago. Hope he is here to stay for the rest of the season.
 
morrow needs to be something else not a closer, its shouldn't be what he wants but what the team wants. Luckily he is now removed from this role
 
Yeah, Aardsma is doing well in the role now. I just read that Yuni might be traded to the Pirates for Jack Wilson. God I hope that happens. Either that or Yuni suddenly becomes a .350 OBP guy. Well, even then Wilson commits 15 less errors a year than Betancourt. Make the trade happen already.

Then trade Bedard or Washburn while they have value for someone who can hit 30-40 bombs a year with a solid OBP.

I swear we are 1 guy away from being serious contenders for the AL West. That one power threat would provide protection for either Griffey or Beltre and their numbers would go up as well.
 
maybe once cordero comes up, if it even happens, he can become the closer. Any certain person you would like for the mariners to trade for? I like the rumor of jack wilson for betancourt
 
Was at the game last night, god I wish that Griffey ball went out, would have been amazing.

But I would just like to see a new shortstop for the team, anyone really. That would immediately improve the team.
 
Purely out of curiosity... are you guys mad yet that you traded away Adam Jones and Chris Tillman? Cause I'm unbelievably happy we have both of them.
 
Leftwich said:
Purely out of curiosity... are you guys mad yet that you traded away Adam Jones and Chris Tillman? Cause I'm unbelievably happy we have both of them.
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I would enjoy Jones back, but thats hindsight. He struggled when he was here at the major league level
 
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