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So what's the first feel consensus ?!?!?!?

NWSaint

The Minister of Defense
for you guys who have the demo, from what you can tell (I know it's limited) what's the "realistic" level ?? AP ?? or AM ??.. In years gone by this question would always be split and eventually go the way of AM, especially when rollin' o/l.. but is AM as it's always been ?? and it just becomes a matter of adjusting or what ??.. or "could" the new standard be AP for o/l play this year ??.. just curious of 1st impressions..



NWSaint.
 
You know. There is already a thread for this......

I dont see a thread asking what he is asking as to AP or AM

NW...If 09 had man D then Id of wanted all pro. Without man D though zones needed to be tougher so I was happy with AM.

Now with how we see man D has improved I guessing AP will be the best level. Factoring in all the rating given to players why juice that using AM setting?

If your any good at the game then AP games should be on par with actual NFL game score wise. Playing someone without smarts our skill though it would be lopsided scores.

So why give the lesser skilled ballers the advantage of having juiced players? If anything you are playing the cpu ai more than the baller . I personally think the game should be played on AP and with that skill and smarts are more of a factor in winning and losing.
 
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TG!

Ahhhh, now THAT is the kinda' answer I was lookin' for bra'..

Cuz I was gonna re: to the 1st guy that re'd (Dash) and just straight up ask for a link that pertained precisely to a preference of AM vs. AP, because I tried "search", went back a couple pages and didn't see anything on the subject at hand, but anyways, yeah that was the dead on money type of re: that i'm lookin' for.. and btw, helluva breakdown, ya didn't have to go that far (LoL), but much appreciation for the analysis.. I'm just gonna hold tight and wait for the actual game to come out, but I just wanted to see what fellas were thinkin' of the 2 levels so far.. again, thanks!



NWSaint.
 
Is that NW??Man good to hear from you.I cant wait to start back playing some real classic games again!!

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What's good ma'man ?!?!?!?

Damn, and yet ANOTHER Titans in like flynn..
You, Helo', AZ & I bet BIGGZ is wanderin' around somewhere..

LoL.. we brought the house, the garage, the yard, and ahhllllllll the neigbors with us over in this joint.. hahahahahahahah.. now just bruddah'"H" and DeeJay need to show on up and i'll be convinced.. Good to hear from finally, yeah you know we're gonna go at it ONCE AGAIN!..brutal mf'n back-n-forths.. I tell ya, the years just keep tickin' by but we're all still here.... that's a damn shame!.. LoL.. I'll be openin' up "The Dome" here fair soon, just keep those peepers in a non-diolated state (no offense Helo', pfffft.).. check ya soon.



NWSaint.
 
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I have only played two games so far, one on AP and one on AM. My initial reaction is that AP is where it's at this year. AM just seems too unrealistic. CB's jump routes that they shouldn't, line doesn't block like it should, etc.
 
every year it starts with all pro bring perferred then once people learn the game and offense is easy we are all gonna play all madden.

only plus side to all pro is that we wont need the tracker anymore.
 
I have been liking the extended demo more on All-Pro than All-Madden. Might delay the start of the league season a few days to let guys get some online games in and get a consensus opinion on what would be the best for everyone to use. Last year's AM was not pleasant.
 
I can admit AP felt more natural than AM. I only played one game on each level, though. Keep in mind every year there is a slight adjustment period to AM and AP could become too easy as we continue to play the game. I was able to move the ball with relative ease on AP my first try and that's with the shitty camera I had to deal with. I can only imagine how much easier it will be as I play more and more. For now, I'll agree and say AP is the better mode, but that could easily change.
 
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I dont see a thread asking what he is asking as to AP or AM

NW...If 09 had man D then Id of wanted all pro. Without man D though zones needed to be tougher so I was happy with AM.

Now with how we see man D has improved I guessing AP will be the best level. Factoring in all the rating given to players why juice that using AM setting?

If your any good at the game then AP games should be on par with actual NFL game score wise. Playing someone without smarts our skill though it would be lopsided scores.

So why give the lesser skilled ballers the advantage of having juiced players? If anything you are playing the cpu ai more than the baller . I personally think the game should be played on AP and with that skill and smarts are more of a factor in winning and losing.

Good post, Timmy. This is exactly how I feel about the game so far. I want the ratings to be a factor and be what decides the play on the field, not the difficulty.

And NW, like houtz said, if you want to try out the demo we can get it to you. Let one of us know.
 
Ok, so I dig what i'm readin' so far.. sounds like AP "could" be the way to go, of course all depending on the adjustment period, or if the AM is just beyond ridiculous..

Helo', mcstl, Mr. Bill, Mobb, Boss_AZ, TG, you guys know I take a very keen ear to what ya have to say, after all, we've all been goin' at it for years.. not sure yet if I really wanna F' around -w- a d/l or not, or just wait for the real deal to come out.. So, if I might ask ya, would I benefit at all from get'n the d/l now, or is it gonna make that much of a difference ????.. Because what i'm also understanding from other threads it's gotta somewhat crisper feel to it.. and if that's the case then I think I could just wait, but if i'm gonna get taken to the shed IF I do then maybe one of ya goodfellaz could hook a Hawai'ian up.. insight ??.. check ya on the Waimea' side..



NWSaint.
 
I think the 5 min Superbowl demo is definitely worth d/ling and getting some time in with to get comfortable with this years version. I've read about people being able to share their code with up to 5 people, I will PM you mine now and you can see if it will let you download it :D
 
MB!

I woulda' sent ya this via PM but I gotta have 30 posts before I can send PM's.. (goodness).. so here is what I was gonna send ya..




Hey thx. for the code, but I went into the PS store, entered the promo code that ya gave me and it said that was invalid.. so I'm not sure if that's the place I shoulda' entered the code or what.. but that was the only place I could find that had anything to do with a code.. even went and looked at the "demos" section and they didn't even have Madden on there yet.. wait, they had a video trailer, but that was it.. so gimee' some insight on what to do here.. and thanks again .... Aloha'

"NW"
 
MB!

I woulda' sent ya this via PM but I gotta have 30 posts before I can send PM's.. (goodness).. so here is what I was gonna send ya..




Hey thx. for the code, but I went into the PS store, entered the promo code that ya gave me and it said that was invalid.. so I'm not sure if that's the place I shoulda' entered the code or what.. but that was the only place I could find that had anything to do with a code.. even went and looked at the "demos" section and they didn't even have Madden on there yet.. wait, they had a video trailer, but that was it.. so gimee' some insight on what to do here.. and thanks again .... Aloha'

"NW"

That's not how it works, Ndub. You can't use the code more than once, but you can download the demo more than once after you've used it. I would tell you to get on AIM but I know you don't have it, lol. You can receive PMs, right? Get back to me in this thread and I will PM you my account info (username and password) and you can login with my account and then go to the PSstore, go to the top right where it says "downloads" or recent downloads, or download history or something, then you can download it again on my account, logout of my account, and it will be on your hard drive for you to use on your account.

Get back to me so I know that you're here and I'll send you the PM.
 
F' AIM!!.. Get on the S3.. we'll roll it from there.. aim, that'll be the day.. F' that shyt.. LoL............with all due...........boss!



NWSaint.
 
F' AIM!!.. Get on the S3.. we'll roll it from there.. aim, that'll be the day.. F' that shyt.. LoL............with all due...........boss!



NWSaint.
I'm just going to PM the info to you here. I won't be able to get online while you are using my account on the PS3. I believe you have to create a new user and then "use existing account" when if prompts you. Not sure if you have to use my screen name or not (Helicopter20), but I know that you will need my email address and password. I'm going to send them to you now. If I see some "strange" charges on my credit card, I'm coming to the great Northwest to look for your bulky-ass, boss! I'm fucking around, I trust you. PM on the way.
 
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