Some Batman 3 Details

[j.hen]

A Nolan-universe Riddler seems too much like what Joker was. But if JGL stars as a younger Riddler I'm all for it.

 

[Palooza]

I'm pretty sure we'll learn more as Comic-Con goes on.

 

[MvP]

Am I the only one who thinks Joseph Gordon-Levitt looks exactly like Heath Ledger? Funny how they both are the two main villians of Nolan's batman universe (if JGL is definitely Riddler, of course).

 

[MVP1991]

Massive boner

 

[Fox1994]

It all comes from the Riddler and Joker having extremely similar personalities. They were joking and riddling, trying to confuse the shit out of the detectives and Batman...

Except the Joker had given himself over to his insanity and disfigurement, whereas the Riddler tries to almost hide his.

Like, in Batman Forever, Riddler had an alternate ego. He was doing shit outside of crime, he was a businessman.

Joker is a psychopath. He embraces his insanity, whereas Riddler seems to be in denial of his.

 

[j.hen]

Am I the only one who thinks Joseph Gordon-Levitt looks exactly like Heath Ledger? Funny how they both are the two main villians of Nolan's batman universe (if JGL is definitely Riddler, of course).

Yeah I can see it, it's trippy shit watching them acting alongside each other in 10 Things I Hate About You

 

[Diivox]

and through his quest to prove himself the intellectual superior

this. The Joker embraces his insanity, a sort of "method to the madness" kind of thing. The Riddler in a Nolan universe would be focused on (I like your term) intellectual superiority, a sort of holier than thou, narcissistic, almost McNultyesque desire to be the smartest person in the room at all times. I dont think the Joker ever cared about what people thought about him. Nolan does extremely complex films and even when he tries too hard and misses like he did with Inception (most overrated movie since Avatar, or anything with "3D" in its title for that matter) he at least puts alot of thought into his movies and is definitely the director with the best shot at pulling it off.

 

[Palooza]

Am I the only one who thinks Joseph Gordon-Levitt looks exactly like Heath Ledger? Funny how they both are the two main villians of Nolan's batman universe (if JGL is definitely Riddler, of course).

When Ledger died a lot of the fanboys were calling for JGL to be the replacement.

 

[Sean]

i somewhat see it, but not completely


as for the Riddler, i could see him setting up traps and stuff and leaving it up to Batman to solve them, if he doesnt, its not his fault, its Batmans, kind of like the Joker. i think Gary Oldman said that the Nolan universe Riddler would be some kind of computer hacker or something, would be interesting too

 

[JeremyHight]

Them looking similar hasn't been a big deal before. They even starred together in arguably the best movie of Heath Ledger's career...

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Going through a list of Batman villains, I don't think there's a lot that will work terribly well. Many of them don't seem like they would fit with the very realistic society Nolan has established.

Harley Quinn would be too shallow without Joker in the movie, Killer Croc and Clayface are unrealistic and cliched, and many of the other possibilities are cheesy or wouldn't fit with the universe.

I think The Riddler is the most obvious possibility as a main villain; he is well known amongst casual Batman fans, doesn't have any extremely strange qualities that would ruin the integrity of the reality of the world. The Penguin is a slight possibility too if done right imo.

I wouldn't mind seeing Zsaz in a minor role.

 

[Buzzman]

What about Two Face? I know hes dead, but because of Ledger's death they could change the script.

One thing that sucked is if Ledger doesn't die the third film is set up perfectly for Joker and Harley Quinn.

 

[Sean]

Going through a list of Batman villains, I don't think there's a lot that will work terribly well. Many of them don't seem like they would fit with the very realistic society Nolan has established.

Harley Quinn would be too shallow without Joker in the movie, Killer Croc and Clayface are unrealistic and cliched, and many of the other possibilities are cheesy or wouldn't fit with the universe.

I think The Riddler is the most obvious possibility as a main villain; he is well known amongst casual Batman fans, doesn't have any extremely strange qualities that would ruin the integrity of the reality of the world. The Penguin is a slight possibility too if done right imo.

I wouldn't mind seeing Zsaz in a minor role.

hes already in the universe so it wont be hard to bring him back in

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

hes already in the universe so it wont be hard to bring him back in

Yeah, totally forgot he was in Batman Begins

 

[IamMedellin]

 

[Goober]

Going through a list of Batman villains, I don't think there's a lot that will work terribly well. Many of them don't seem like they would fit with the very realistic society Nolan has established.

Harley Quinn would be too shallow without Joker in the movie, Killer Croc and Clayface are unrealistic and cliched, and many of the other possibilities are cheesy or wouldn't fit with the universe.

I think The Riddler is the most obvious possibility as a main villain; he is well known amongst casual Batman fans, doesn't have any extremely strange qualities that would ruin the integrity of the reality of the world. The Penguin is a slight possibility too if done right imo.

I wouldn't mind seeing Zsaz in a minor role.

Your knowledge of Batman's rogues gallery seems limited at best. There's plenty of good fits for the Nolan universe.

What about Two Face? I know hes dead, but because of Ledger's death they could change the script.

One thing that sucked is if Ledger doesn't die the third film is set up perfectly for Joker and Harley Quinn.

Bringing Two Face back would defeat the purpose of The Dark Knight's ending. No?

Harley Quinn? Yawn.

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Your knowledge of Batman's rogues gallery seems limited at best. There's plenty of good fits for the Nolan universe.

It is limited, but they are more than likely going to stick with an at least somewhat recognizable antagonist to the general movie-goer.

Who do you think will fit in well?

 

[JeremyHight]

I wouldn't be surprised if this next one had Riddler and Killer Croc. Croc isn't unrealistic, he is a circus freak who turns into a serial killer. It would suck to do the makeup, but get some big fucking guy and put him in there for the inevitable fight scene. Riddler wouldn't be a great fight scene, which is why you need Croc.

 

[Goober]

I want blackmask.

 

[Fox1994]

Them looking similar hasn't been a big deal before. They even starred together in arguably the best movie of Heath Ledger's career...

That's my little sister's favorite movie. For a chick flick, it's really good.

Going through a list of Batman villains, I don't think there's a lot that will work terribly well. Many of them don't seem like they would fit with the very realistic society Nolan has established.

Harley Quinn would be too shallow without Joker in the movie, Killer Croc and Clayface are unrealistic and cliched, and many of the other possibilities are cheesy or wouldn't fit with the universe.

I think The Riddler is the most obvious possibility as a main villain; he is well known amongst casual Batman fans, doesn't have any extremely strange qualities that would ruin the integrity of the reality of the world. The Penguin is a slight possibility too if done right imo.

I wouldn't mind seeing Zsaz in a minor role.

Besides Riddler, I think Penguin would work pretty well. He's born with a deformity, like in Batman Returns. (In fact, since it's on topic, I liked Tim Burton's directed/written movies more than the one's he produced that Schumacher directed. Schumacher kinda gayed it up to be honest. Like, Burton's were weird, but they were still more gritty and realistic... Though definitely not on Nolan's level.)

I like the idea of Croc, but no one's ever going to touch the Joker. The Joker is Batman's nemesis. He's his counterpart. As crazy as Batman is, Joker is crazier. as dark as Batman is, Joker is darker. His existence is to be the Satan to Batman's God.

With him completely out of the picture, who do we go with?

Hush could be good, but he's not as easily identified.

Catwoman, Poison Ivy bring in the feminine element. It just has to be done properly. And I have no doubt Nolan could do it.

Your knowledge of Batman's rogues gallery seems limited at best. There's plenty of good fits for the Nolan universe.

Everyone's is limited at best compared to you. Don't be a douche, just throw out some ideas.