St. Louis Cardinals

[MRN]

roy halladay, brandon webb, dan haren, mark buehrle, ryan dempster?, matt cain?, cole hamels, etc.

Have you seen Carpenter at his best? lol.

I take Carpenter at his best over all of those guys.

 

[Woy]

Have you seen Carpenter at his best? lol.

I take Carpenter at his best over all of those guys.

Same, and I'd put him ahead of Harden as well. Carpenter is flat-out nasty when he's healthy.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

ahead of halladay? are you crazy?

 

[Goober]

Guys that are better than Carpenter when healthy, off the top of my head:

Tim Lincecum
C.C. Sabathia
Felix Hernandez
Jake Peavy
Josh Beckett
Rich Harden

haha thanks for jinxing Harden.

Carpenter is good no doubt, but is way too inconsistent thanks to injuries.

 

[strahanfan92]

Guys better than Carpenter?

roy halladay, brandon webb, dan haren, mark buehrle, ryan dempster?, matt cain?, cole hamels, etc.

Tim Lincecum
C.C. Sabathia
Felix Hernandez
Jake Peavy
Josh Beckett
Rich Harden

cosign,that carpenter guy sucks

 

[Woy]

cosign,that carpenter guy sucks

You gotta to be fucking kidding me.

 

[mcstl25]

Guys better than Carpenter?





cosign,that carpenter guy sucks

I usually don't throw insults around, but you're an idiot. Look at the numbers, since Carp has been with the Cardinals, he is easily a top 3 pitcher in all of MLB when healthy.

 

[MRN]

You need to watch some baseball...

 

[mobbdeep1122]

Hi, Phillies fan here to start shit:

I was actually a little nervous about you guys but now that you've stopped playing nothing but shitty teams, you were brought back down to earth by getting swept by the Braves and losing a series to the Marlins, both at home.

For a minute there, I actually thought you guys were legit

 

[mobbdeep1122]

suck my nuts you philthy philly scrub.


bats have gone cold, and the umps have been raping us lately.


winning baseball will return shortly.

AKA you've shit the bed when actually playing good teams

LOL @ blaming the umps

 

[mobbdeep1122]

really? like when we've won almost all of our games vs the dodgers?

and yes, the umps have been covering their eyes in shit for their strike zones a few particular games.

(im not gonna look up stats or anything cause im tired and just woke up, maybe later)

I'll do it for you. Since August 1st until the Braves series last Friday, the Cards have played exactly one team over .500. For the season, the Cards are under .500 against teams with winning records.

Not to mention they get to play juggernauts like the Astros, Reds, Brewers and Pirates 19 times each.

FRAUDS

 

[MRN]

Cubs can eat shit and die.

 

[Woy]

I'll do it for you. Since August 1st until the Braves series last Friday, the Cards have played exactly one team over .500. For the season, the Cards are under .500 against teams with winning records.

Not to mention they get to play juggernauts like the Astros, Reds, Brewers and Pirates 19 times each.

FRAUDS

Who cares who we've played? Once playoffs roll around, all records are thrown out the window.

I'd like to point out in our 2006 championship season, we went 83-78 - hardly a great record by any means.

 

[strahanfan92]

I usually don't throw insults around, but you're an idiot. Look at the numbers, since Carp has been with the Cardinals, he is easily a top 3 pitcher in all of MLB when healthy.

Holy shit, 2 years later, and I was definitely being sarcastic lol. Rich Harden better than Carp? Are you kidding me.. lol



Reason why I bumped this thread, anybody else worried about this year? Is getting older and worse in the field the way to go to fix hitting?

However, IMO the season relies a lot on Berkman. If he is able to have a relatively great season then I really like our lineup.

 

[Woy]

I forgot that I made this, lol.

But yeah, I'm worried but I'm too worried. Berkman should add to our lineup and he lost about 20 pounds to help him adjust to a corner outfield spot. Obviously Rasmus and Jay will have to up on their best game, but I don't think Berkman will be as much of a liability out there as people think.

I'm more worried about this Pujols situation than anything.

 

[strahanfan92]

JUPITER, Fla. • St. Louis Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright has flown back to St. Louis this morning to have his right elbow examined this afternoon after he experienced discomfort in the joint.

General manager John Mozeliak said he believes it is a "significant injury" and the early word is "not encouraging."

Tommy John surgery is one alternative to repair the damage for which Wainwright is being checked.

"After his bullpen on Monday, he did feel something in his right elbow," Mozeliak said. "I can say just based on the initial evaluation from our training staff, things do not look encouraging. But before we jump to any conclusions, we'll just wait until the re-evaluation this afternoon."

Mozeliak said there would be an update Wednesday afternoon.

Wainwright finished second in the Cy Young voting and he won 20 games last season for the Cardinals. He and Cy Young Award-winner Roy Halladay were the only pitchers in the National League to finish in the top 10 in the major pitching categories.
The righthander was first diagnosed with a tear in the same ligament back in 2004. He has twiced missed turns with a strain in his elbow related to that injury. Last summer, he missed his final start of last season due to discomfort in the joint.

A checkup in November, however, assured him and the Cardinals of the joint's stability and structure, and even a few weeks ago, as spring training started, Wainwright insisted that he wasn't concerned about the joint.

"My ligament is intact and strong," Wainwright said in a Feb. 10 Post-Dispatch story. "It's not like it's ready to pop."

Mozeliak said today: "There is probably a connection between the ligament being compromised (earlier) to now. Obviously, he's pitched very successfully between (2004) and now. I guess at some point, it's just a matter of time."

Wainwright has a $21-million, two-year option at the end of this season that was triggered by his finish in the Cy Young voting. To claim the option he must finish the year healthy and not on the team's disabled lis

 

[strahanfan92]

JUPITER, Fla. • St. Louis Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright has flown back to St. Louis this morning to have his right elbow examined this afternoon after he experienced discomfort in the joint.

General manager John Mozeliak said he believes it is a "significant injury" and the early word is "not encouraging."

Tommy John surgery is one alternative to repair the damage for which Wainwright is being checked.

"After his bullpen on Monday, he did feel something in his right elbow," Mozeliak said. "I can say just based on the initial evaluation from our training staff, things do not look encouraging. But before we jump to any conclusions, we'll just wait until the re-evaluation this afternoon."

Mozeliak said there would be an update Wednesday afternoon.

Wainwright finished second in the Cy Young voting and he won 20 games last season for the Cardinals. He and Cy Young Award-winner Roy Halladay were the only pitchers in the National League to finish in the top 10 in the major pitching categories.
The righthander was first diagnosed with a tear in the same ligament back in 2004. He has twiced missed turns with a strain in his elbow related to that injury. Last summer, he missed his final start of last season due to discomfort in the joint.

A checkup in November, however, assured him and the Cardinals of the joint's stability and structure, and even a few weeks ago, as spring training started, Wainwright insisted that he wasn't concerned about the joint.

"My ligament is intact and strong," Wainwright said in a Feb. 10 Post-Dispatch story. "It's not like it's ready to pop."

Mozeliak said today: "There is probably a connection between the ligament being compromised (earlier) to now. Obviously, he's pitched very successfully between (2004) and now. I guess at some point, it's just a matter of time."

Wainwright has a $21-million, two-year option at the end of this season that was triggered by his finish in the Cy Young voting. To claim the option he must finish the year healthy and not on the team's disabled lis

 

[Goober]

Two horse race in the central now.

 

[strahanfan92]

This is absolutely sickening news. Huge setback for us.

 

[EmpireWF]

No good here. It's tough to lose your ace before the season even starts (presumably) and replace him enough to contend for the division.

Johan says hi.