Stoudemire won't be traded to the Cavs, but this thread is still very lulzworthy.

[Argath]

Fail. Way to prove you know nothing about basketball.

If Vince Carter was on the cavs with those numbers, you would be sucking his dick saying he 'essentially shuts down every SG even Kobe'

 

[DoubleDeuce]

poser, again.

come up with insults of your own before you enter an argument.

Come up with retaliation posts of your own before you enter an argument.

 

[Nash]

buck3ye5, atleast answer atleast one damn question

hell, I answered all of them

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Orlando with Hedo > orlando with VC

Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. And VC doesnt play defense therefore he doesnt shut down anybody

 

[BUCK3YE5]

other peoples lines is the best you can come up with? lol

 

[DoubleDeuce]

other peoples lines is the best you can come up with? lol

The irony of this post.

 

[Argath]

Orlando with Hedo > orlando with VC

Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. And VC doesnt play defense therefore he doesnt shut down anybody

last I checked, orlando didn't trade Hedo for VC, Hedo walked out. VC was traded for Courtney Lee and another player (name escapes me right now). VC > Courtney Lee. Your argument is invalid

 

[Nukleopatra]

If they made ''trolling'' an event at the special olympics, every person in this thread, would almost qualify.

 

[Nash]

If they made ''trolling'' an event at the special olympics, every person in this thread, would almost qualify.

 

[NAHSTE]

Orlando with Hedo > orlando with VC

Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. And VC doesnt play defense therefore he doesnt shut down anybody

Orlando, with VC, through 54 games: 36-18, 2nd in East

Orlando, with Hedo, through 54 games: 40-14, 3rd in East


They seem about the same to me. Hedo gave teams match up problems, I agree, but it's not like Turkoglu plays defense either.

 

[Argath]

Orlando, with VC, through 54 games: 36-18, 2nd in East

Orlando, with Hedo, through 54 games: 40-14, 3rd in East


They seem about the same to me. Hedo gave teams match up problems, I agree, but it's not like Hedo plays defense either.

BUT BUT BUT DIDN'T YOU SEE THAT BLOCK BY HEDO AT THE END OF THE GAME? HE CERTAINLY DOES PLAY DEFENSE I SAW IT ON THAT ONE PLAY

 

[Nash]

BUT BUT BUT DIDN'T YOU SEE THAT BLOCK BY HEDO AT THE END OF THE GAME? HE CERTAINLY DOES PLAY DEFENSE I SAW IT ON THAT ONE PLAY

BUT V1NC3 CART3R JUST DR0PP3D L1K3 40 P01NTS LAST W33K

 

[BUCK3YE5]

because nash asked, i will talk about my basketball philosophies

First off, what defense you play depends on not only the team you are facing...but the players on your team. If your team isnt very quick and the other team is you probably wanna go zone. If the other team has good shooters as well make it a 3-2. If not, make it a 2-3. But playing a zone doesnt make up for being slow...you still have to get their to contest the jump shots. If your team is quick enough to not let the other team take you off the dribble all day then man is the way to go. If one player on the other team is killing you I usually like the idea of a box and one, unless the other team has pretty good shooters, then I would have my 2nd best defender guarding the other teams worst player on the man to man, and help my teams best defender on the others teams superstar, when necessary, leaving the other teams worst player pretty open. If the other team has only 1 good dribbler, or none, I usually like the idea of pressing, whether it be a fullcourt man, or halfcourt 3-2 trap depends on several things.

I am usually a fan of playing the 2-3 zone. I find at the HS level there arent too many great shooters. This is kinda ironic because I love playing against the 2-3 zone. I just find the openings and hit three's all day. I hit 5 in a row a few games ago against this defense lol. I am a SG first, PG second, and SF third. I consider myself an excellent shooter, an almost as good passer, and a decent rebounder (Im only 5'10"). I can jump pretty high so that makes up for the lack of height. I consider myself a pretty good defender as well.


I dont have any pics of me on my laptop but I guess I can get on my Dad's desktop later to show you guys my proof of HS baseball, HS basketball, and AAU Baseball.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

the Magic were able to get VC because they let Hedo walk. If they resign Hedo, they dont get VC.

 

[NAHSTE]

because nash asked, i will talk about my basketball philosophies

First off, what defense you play depends on not only the team you are facing...but the players on your team. If your team isnt very quick and the other team is you probably wanna go zone. If the other team has good shooters as well make it a 3-2. If not, make it a 2-3. But playing a zone doesnt make up for being slow...you still have to get their to contest the jump shots. If your team is quick enough to not let the other team take you off the dribble all day then man is the way to go. If one player on the other team is killing you I usually like the idea of a box and one, unless the other team has pretty good shooters, then I would have my 2nd best defender guarding the other teams worst player on the man to man, and help my teams best defender on the others teams superstar, when necessary, leaving the other teams worst player pretty open. If the other team has only 1 good dribbler, or none, I usually like the idea of pressing, whether it be a fullcourt man, or halfcourt 3-2 trap depends on several things.

I am usually a fan of playing the 2-3 zone. I find at the HS level there arent too many great shooters. This is kinda ironic because I love playing against the 2-3 zone. I just find the openings and hit three's all day. I hit 5 in a row a few games ago against this defense lol. I am a SG first, PG second, and SF third. I consider myself an excellent shooter, an almost as good passer, and a decent rebounder (Im only 5'10"). I can jump pretty high so that makes up for the lack of height. I consider myself a pretty good defender as well.


I dont have any pics of me on my laptop but I guess I can get on my Dad's desktop later to show you guys my proof of HS baseball, HS basketball, and AAU Baseball.

Sounds like a good strategy.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Sounds like a good strategy.

Well the opportunity doesnt present itself very often, but it has worked for me

 

[Nash]

Well the opportunity doesnt present itself very often, but it has worked for me

in what? NBA 2K?

 

[Argath]

Ok, I'm going to try to disect this as nicely as I can

because nash asked, i will talk about my basketball philosophies

You do love sucking that dick

First off, what defense you play depends on not only the team you are facing...but the players on your team. If your team isnt very quick and the other team is you probably wanna go zone. If the other team has good shooters as well make it a 3-2. If not, make it a 2-3. But playing a zone doesnt make up for being slow...you still have to get their to contest the jump shots. If your team is quick enough to not let the other team take you off the dribble all day then man is the way to go. If one player on the other team is killing you I usually like the idea of a box and one, unless the other team has pretty good shooters, then I would have my 2nd best defender guarding the other teams worst player on the man to man, and help my teams best defender on the others teams superstar, when necessary, leaving the other teams worst player pretty open. If the other team has only 1 good dribbler, or none, I usually like the idea of pressing, whether it be a fullcourt man, or halfcourt 3-2 trap depends on several things.

Jesus Christ where do I begin.

Your philosophy of leaving a man wide open is worthless. If I were facing you and noticed you doing this, I would have my worst player on the court stand on the block, have my star stand a couple feet outside the 3point line on the wing. Pass it to the star, your defender leaves my player open, easy layup.

I can somewhat agree with the 3-2 philosophy on quick shooters who are fast, but it's not something I would personally run.

I am usually a fan of playing the 2-3 zone.

How Ironic

I find at the HS level there arent too many great shooters. This is kinda ironic because I love playing against the 2-3 zone. I just find the openings and hit three's all day.

I don't know what level of competition you're playing, but I've seen plenty of great shooters at the high school level considering their 3point line is shorter than both college and the pros. If anything, dribbling and ball control is what is lacking at the highschool level.

I hit 5 in a row a few games ago against this defense lol. I am a SG first, PG second, and SF third. I consider myself an excellent shooter, an almost as good passer, and a decent rebounder (Im only 5'10"). I can jump pretty high so that makes up for the lack of height. I consider myself a pretty good defender as well.

Rating yourself is probably the most biased thing you can do. Especially when you've already compared yourself to Michael Jordan. There's no way a player at 5'10 is playing small forward at the varisty high school level unless your school has under 1,000 kids.

Not to mention, everybody should be able to make decent passes. Dribbling is what Point Guards need to excel at IMO. I need a guy who can handle the rock and not turn it over, otherwise I just got two shooting guards. Personally, it sounds to me like your a ball hog with a half decent shot at most (if what your saying is true) and the real reason you quit is because nobody wanted you on the team.

I dont have any pics of me on my laptop but I guess I can get on my Dad's desktop later to show you guys my proof of HS baseball, HS basketball, and AAU Baseball.

Yes, do that, because I don't believe for a second you have played any basketball at all in your life.

 

[Shwayzed]

Orlando let him walk. They wanted VC

the Magic were able to get VC because they let Hedo walk. If they resign Hedo, they dont get VC.

So did they want VC or not? You're contradicting yourself.


Hedo opted out of his contract, and the magic made several attempts to resign him. The Magic front office all thought that he was going to resign with them.

And also if I recall correctly, they made the VC deal BEFORE the free agency period hit.. or atleast well before Hedo signed to Toronto. So the second quote is completely wrong.

 

[Argath]

Not even there. I know a kid who goes to a school with a graduating class of like 35 or 40 and their small forward is 6-1 or 6-2. Most teams in that division are around the same or tall. No 5-10 guy ever, ever, plays SF, even in a tiny division.

I have to admit I have seen it, but the team ran a 4 guard villanova-esque offense. They're starting five in height were

1- 5'7
2- 5'9
3- 5'10
4- 6'2
5- 6'6