Super LB's Fix - The L2/LT Trick

[krulmichael]

So I just came across this thread on OS and after reading through the thread it seems like alot of other people are agreeing. I'm bout to boot up NCAA now to try it out myself (and not in practice since gameplay is diff in practice). If it's indeed true, it's a God send!

The L2/LT Button:

The L2/LT button when throwing adds air to the trajectory of the ball.

Now I have been trying it and this is what I can tell you.

On a lob pass, it definitely goes higher and does very rarely gets picked off by the trailing CB on deep passes. It makes the ball come down at a higher angle and more of a basket catch is made by the receiver.

On bullet passes I see a difference as well.

When my receiver is running an out route and the defense is in zone, the ball seems to drop in towards the sideline and the LBs will jump for it, just as the do to pick off the bullet passes, but just hit air and the ball keeps going. So it adds a bit more air under your bullet.

When running a quick out route, have you guys noticed if you throw the bullet then the receiver will loose 2 yards to catch the ball? Well when I throw the L2/LT and throw that bullet to the out route, the ball floats over the top of the receiver and he catches it over the head and does not loose ground. Careful though, safeties and DBs if in man, coming in at a perpendicular angle from the path of the ball can pick these off.

Two warnings:

1) Throwing with L2/LT makes the release of the QB longer. Similar to if you throw a long bomb, he winds up for more power, he will wind up for more of a finesse pass.

2) Since you press and hold L2/LT when throwing, you need to release it once the ball is in the air. If you hold it when your receiver catches, he will try to lateral the ball backwards as that is what the button is supposed to do when you control a ball carrier.

Now I at first thought it was all a placebo effect when I first used it.. and some of my friends are still skeptical... so don't think I am saying this is 100% fact. But I have noticed a huge difference when I use this button and do not deal with "Super LBs" when throwing. In fact, I am only picked off by mistakes by me or being rushed, almost never cheap AI things. (And if I am, it is only warping but I can live with that as I only see it like once a season.)

So try it for yourself and see. I am pretty sure it makes a difference and should put an end to the Middle pass and Super LB debate.

Like I said, have not contacted EA to confirm it but I have noticed a difference. I have also heard they put this in to Madden '10 and has been in Madden and NCAA since its introduction.

 

[1ke]

SO did it work?

 

[krulmichael]

Reading the thread (and trying it out personally) this shit is legit. It may not seem like it works everytime, but something is certainly happening when you do it (and for the good). Not only does it seem to add more arch to the throw, it seems to make the WR's catch the ball better and also I've seen about 3-4 different catching animations (and reading the thread I'm not the only one) already in just one game and a few practice session attempts. Definitely something I'll be adding to my game and paying close attention to as it develops.

Here's a link to the thread on OS so you guys can read many more comments on it.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football/501219-important-l2-lt-button.html

 

[nflman2033]

I so can't wait to try this

 

[krulmichael]

I find it funny that this has 65 views and 3 comments (2 by me) yet all I hear about NCAA is everyone bitching about Super LB's.

 

[jms493]

shouldn't this be in the instruction booklet....:shifty:

 

[jms493]

personally i don't seem to have enough time to throw vs human opponents, if this increases the release time, then I will use it sparingly.

 

[nflman2033]

Yeah I hate to hear that the motion takes longer as it seems that I can't always get the ball off fast enough, but for years I have been unhappy with not having control over where I intend the ball to go trajectory wise, passes that I know would work in real life but are too lie and get picked off

 

[Saluki]

Super LBs haven't been much of an issue to me. Mostly i throw ints to cbs, and mostly those are my fault.

 

[krulmichael]

Yeah I hate to hear that the motion takes longer as it seems that I can't always get the ball off fast enough, but for years I have been unhappy with not having control over where I intend the ball to go trajectory wise, passes that I know would work in real life but are too lie and get picked off

Honestly out of the game I played last night I don't really recall it taking THAT much longer. Then again, I'm pretty good in the pocket and actually step up into it and what not.

 

[RyanLeaf16]

Hoping to find some time tonight to try this out. This combined with TCP should make for some pretty effective QBs if You have decent stick skills

 

[Bear Pand]

I don't think this should be called a super LB fix though.

It doesn't change the fact that LBs have sick reaction time, don't respect momentum and can see things that shouldn't be in their field of vision. Also that they react to things as soon as you press the button, instead of reacting when things actually happen.

Just lets you loft the ball over them.

 

[spiker]

I will try this later.

 

[FedEx227]

I don't think this should be called a super LB fix though.

It doesn't change the fact that LBs have sick reaction time, don't respect momentum and can see things that shouldn't be in their field of vision. Also that they react to things as soon as you press the button, instead of reacting when things actually happen.

Just lets you loft the ball over them.

Exactly. The LB aren't anymore super than they were before.

The fact is even if you pass the ball 15-20 yards, it's trajectory stay about 6 feet in the air making it impossible to get over the LB.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, this is a workaround, not a fix.

 

[I OU a Beatn]

I'm 99% sure it's the placebo effect. I've tried it extensively with and with out holding LT and it feels exactly the same. Not to mention, an EA employee replied to that thread on OS and said it doesn't do a thing. It's a pity, really, because the fucked up trajectory is the one thing holding this game back from being great.

 

[FedEx227]

It's the one thing that's definitely cause me to break a controller already.

I never get that pissed at a game either

 

[nflman2033]

It definitely lobster the ball no question, and it is a sufficient work around, and like krul said it doesn't seem to take longer to release ball, obviously you don't want to do it every pass. I also had to change my controller set up from having a L1 receiver to R1.