Team X-Box: Exposed NCAA 10 Team Builder

[1ke]

Now that just looks lovely.

 

[βїģĐмợ]

Best teabuilder preview so far, I'm very impressed with this feature

 

[LopaKa]

very detailed impression. It makes me that much more excited for this game. Can't Wait!

 

[stevsta]

damn me thinking about creating a team was build crappy stadium select stupid logos and make name

but this..........damn going to be awesome

 

[βїģĐмợ]

This thing is VERY deep. Unfortunately, I think this is pretty much it for NCAA 10. If they are having to hype/talk about Season Showdown so..... much, there can't be much else to the game.

The more I read, the more I get the feeling NCAA 10 = NCAA 09 with a very deep create-a-school mode.

and windsocks..

 

[Realist]

This thing is VERY deep. Unfortunately, I think this is pretty much it for NCAA 10. If they are having to hype/talk about Season Showdown so..... much, there can't be much else to the game.

The more I read, the more I get the feeling NCAA 10 = NCAA 09 with a very deep create-a-school mode.

Can you explain what you mean? I've seen you and a few others lately talk about how NCAA 10 will be like 09 and how EA didn't fix gameplay, etc, but I'm just not understanding why you keep saying that.

This was my reply in the other Team Xbox thread when a couple of people were saying NCAA 10 would be all fluff and that EA didn't touch gameplay but I seem to remember them fixing a few things in past blogs(BTW, I also remember reading the very same people commenting on those blogs and giving positive reviews. Why the sudden change?):

Ok maybe i have it all wrong but i seem to remember more than a few gameplay videos for NCAA and some for madden that were suppose to be in ncaa. I specifically remember seeing video on pursuit angles being corrected and the pass rush being improved(not sure if there was a video for it tho). Granted there isnt pro-tak and alot of the things madden has but to say they havent touch gameplay at all and just added fluff is falsely stated.

 

[LopaKa]

The more I read, the more I get the feeling NCAA 10 = NCAA 09 with a very deep create-a-school mode.

The weird thing is i'm okay with that I pre-ordered mine today

 

[Realist]

The key word in your previous post I bolded as it is the key to why many of us are saying that 10=09 with create-a-school.

What I mean is that it appears EA put just about all of its effort into two features Team Builder and Season Showdown. Sure there are a few "tweaks" here and there to the gameplay/presentation. However, none of those tweaks I have seen to date really appears to be a "game changer" in my view.

Had EA continued with those "tweaks" and we got more and more "tweaks" here and there and EA focused on fixing most/all the gaping holes that were in 09 that would be one thing. However, that is simply not the case as there are still gaping holes in 09's AI/Gameplay that have not been mentioned/addressed as fixed.

Therefore 10 = 09 with a deep create a school (a great feature for those that like create-a-school I just don't happen to be one that will use this feature much if at all) a stupid College popularity contest (Season Showdown) and some minor adjustments to gameplay that will take all of a month (if that long) to figure out before we are back to scoring 50+ ppg on Heisman difficulty.

Dont get me wrong, I agree that 10 will probably be 2009 part 2. but like i said, i remember alot of people sayin 09 would be great if they fix pursuit angles, pass rush and man defense. Now they have done that (supposely) so, if that turns our to be true, why wont the game be great now? Maybe EA focused on those two new things because, according to the Masses, there wasnt much needed in the game play except for a few tweeks. So maybe they were thinking 1) add team builder (something people have been crying about) and season showdown( will not be using this either..) and then tweek the game play and presentation.

IF there is a pass rush, and man coverage/pursuit angles are fixed and the "new" additions like CPU AI understanding plays that are constantly repeated and being able to focus on a player thats killing your D, I doubt you will be score 50+ on heisman. Hell, I hardly ever give up 50 points now lol

 

[Hasselbeck]

Had EA paid ANY attention to the defense in 2009.. it would have been the best game of the series.. but the defense was so bad, it was hard to get into.

Basically if they tweak the D in 2010, I think they may have something here.

Of course.. common sense always seems to squeak by EA with relative ease.

 

[βїģĐмợ]

I think everyone expects NCAA to succeed because of Madden. They really set the bar and showed what can be done in a year. I don't see how the NCAA team would be able to use the "well we only have a short time" excuse anymore after seeing the leaps and bounds made by the Madden team. However, Madden is probably where the majority of funding goes, so they are able to get updates like they've gotten. But I still don't see why they can't share THIS year instead of making NCAA 10 with Madden 09 stuff.

 

[adembroski]

I'm really excited about Team Builder, but I can unfortunately say without qualification that without it, I would have skipped NCAA 10.

The fact is, for all the little improvements being brought over from Madden, the two game changers (overall game speed (pass speed in particular... I can live with NCAA playing faster than real life, but the pass velocity is otherworldly and that has a huge effect on realism) and Pro-Tak) were not, and for that reason, NCAA will not be the "Sim" Madden is. Another thing is that Madden will surpass NCAA by a long, long ways in the presentation department this year, and the atmosphere gap will be closed significantly.

In other words, the only real reason for me to purchase NCAA 10 is this mode and to fill time between July and August, and this is despite the fact that I prefer college football.

It's funny... every really big improvement in NCAA is a result of Madden. The only thing they've done on their own is redoing pursuit angles. Otherwise, the pockets are a branch of Madden's pro-tak, Team Builder was originally developed by Ian Cummings and others for Madden before legal issues persuaded them to limit it to NCAA, branching animations in the running game first appeared in Madden 09.

Really makes you wonder what the NCAA dev team are even doing.

 

[Realist]

I'm really excited about Team Builder, but I can unfortunately say without qualification that without it, I would have skipped NCAA 10.

The fact is, for all the little improvements being brought over from Madden, the two game changers (overall game speed (pass speed in particular... I can live with NCAA playing faster than real life, but the pass velocity is otherworldly and that has a huge effect on realism) and Pro-Tak) were not, and for that reason, NCAA will not be the "Sim" Madden is. Another thing is that Madden will surpass NCAA by a long, long ways in the presentation department this year, and the atmosphere gap will be closed significantly.

In other words, the only real reason for me to purchase NCAA 10 is this mode and to fill time between July and August, and this is despite the fact that I prefer college football.

It's funny... every really big improvement in NCAA is a result of Madden. The only thing they've done on their own is redoing pursuit angles. Otherwise, the pockets are a branch of Madden's pro-tak, Team Builder was originally developed by Ian Cummings and others for Madden before legal issues persuaded them to limit it to NCAA, branching animations in the running game first appeared in Madden 09.

Really makes you wonder what the NCAA dev team are even doing.

Very true. It seems like all the "big" enhancements that madden get are in the next years version of NCAA. So I expect pro-tak to be in NCAA 11. I would think that the NCAA and Madden team would at least come together and discuss what their plans for the coming year are.

 

[βїģĐмợ]

I've noticed that NCAA gets most of Madden's hand-me-downs last year. Which made me kind of sad for NCAA this year because just like all the past years, Madden had another crappy year on next-gen systems. I'm really sick of having to wait until next year to get what could be in the game now but hey, NCAA 11 will probably have some awesome stuff we've been waiting for (chain gangs, refs, pro-tak, etc.)

 

[adembroski]

I've noticed that NCAA gets most of Madden's hand-me-downs last year. Which made me kind of sad for NCAA this year because just like all the past years, Madden had another crappy year on next-gen systems. I'm really sick of having to wait until next year to get what could be in the game now but hey, NCAA 11 will probably have some awesome stuff we've been waiting for (chain gangs, refs, pro-tak, etc.)

NCAA is allowed to take whatever they want the same year. The trouble is, it takes time to tune it, so they have to be selective, as if a given feature goes into both games at the same time, Madden has another month to tune it.

 

[βїģĐмợ]

NCAA is allowed to take whatever they want the same year. The trouble is, it takes time to tune it, so they have to be selective, as if a given feature goes into both games at the same time, Madden has another month to tune it.

The time they could've spent tuning a new feature they spent on Season Showdown

 

[Realist]

I agree. What held madden back was the lack of online franchise. Add that and all the new additions and Madden will probably be much better than NCAA this year. I'll still get both but it looks like Madden will be getting more of my time than NCAA