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THE 2013 ROYAL RUMBLE THREAD

It was meh, the thing that sucks about Punk dropping the belt to Rock is the fact that its going back to Cena. And we'll be back to where we were pre-Mania 27 him still doing his Superman shit. I'm sure they'll sneak in a Ryback reign this year thinking that the guy is over yet failing to realize his chant is over not him.
 
Looking around various forums, I see people raving about this ("PPV of the year contender"), and trashing it.

Not a ton of middle ground.

At this point, I'd say I'm in the middle. I didn't think the show was utter trash - there was no wrestlecrap matches and the Rumble was what the Rumble always is. Just terribly predictable and with weak finishes.
 
My biggest gripe is how they did everything possible to trivialize Punk's 434 day title reign. Rock gets a pre match promo but Punk doesn't. Punk has to come out first. Rock gets to throw a temper tantrum and restart the match. I realize the payoff is a Rock vs Cena rematch at Wrestlemania but why not then have Rock win at Elimination Chamber by beating someone other than Punk. Now we basically go into another lame duck PPV where we already know who is going to win the main event.

The case of the Elimination Chamber thing is people over-thinking this. In any other year, having tournaments on Raw and Smackdown to determine who gets a spot in the Chamber for the WWE title is a great decision, With Rock returning to a full-time schedule for a few months, including SmackDown appearances, , did anyone really expect this PPV to be anything but Rock winning the title?
 
At this point, I'd say I'm in the middle. I didn't think the show was utter trash - there was no wrestlecrap matches and the Rumble was what the Rumble always is. Just terribly predictable and with weak finishes.

Yeah, I can't grasp people being on either end, I thought this was "meh" show all the way. Predictable finishes but nothing horrendous (aka no Divas match). There weren't any blowaway matches but everything was sound. It was a paint by numbers PPV.
 
He was bigger this year and probably way out of cardio shape. I wouldn't be surprised if it was his call to slow it down. He was in far better shape last year but that was before he gassed himself up for the body building movie with Marky Mark.
 
I enjoyed the ppv. Wasnt great but decent enougb to entertain. Then, the main event started. One of the worst matches i ever seen. Sloppy as shit. Rock was terrible but it was expected when you never wrestle. Im ok with the rock winning, i just hate that all it took was a lame ass peoples elbow to put Punk away aftet he dominated and carried the rock through the whole match.

Only way it should have ended was with a rock bottom. Preferably after a couple of near falls.
 
After being in the think-tank on this PPV...

Del Rio / Big Show - ***
Tag Title Match - *1/2
Rumble Match - ** (Really boring, a ton of downtime, lacked creative spots...)
Punk / Rock - **1/2

That is why I think the show was shit. Straight WCW '99 quality...
 
So I went to Scotiabank Theatre at West Edmonton Mall last night with a friend to watch the Rumble with several hundred other people (sold out and absolutely packed). Boy, does it ever open your eyes to the Internet Wrestling Bubble and how we nitpick everything and are all cynical and jaded and hypercritical.

Vince changing finishes because everyone "knows" the result is foolish. Most of the people in that theatre were MARKS. All they knew is what they saw on TV. I swear, half of them probably don't know wrestling is fake. Seriously. When Punk pinned Rock, I thought there was going to be a riot in the theatre. These people were PISSED and started yelling stuff at the screen.

At one point, I was doing some fantasy booking with my friend and said that the Shield should do a run in but attack Punk and turn Rock heel, and this woman next to us chimed in and said, "The Shield can't interfere because then Punk will be stripped of the title!" And she said it like I was the dumbest person in the world for not remembering that stipulation because that's what Vince decreed, and Vince was the boss, of course! And listening in on other people's conversations through the night was mind-boggling. They talked about wrestling entirely as if it were real.

When Rock pinned Punk, the guy behind me said, "Finally, our 434 day nightmare is over!" with the tone someone would say to their doctor, "Thanks for getting all the cancer." This guy was genuinely relieved that Punk was no longer the champion. And needless to say, when the Rock won the title, the theatre went absolutely batcrap crazy.

Out in the real world, wrestling fans are exactly what the stereotype says they are. And that's who Vince books for. They cheered when the babyface team of Del Rio and Rodriguez cheated to tie Big Show to the ropes. They cheered Cena beating Ryback at the Rumble. They went nuts when Jericho returned. They're sheep and WWE pushes their buttons and they react.
 
That's hilarious because I was at West Edmonton Mall last night. Judging by the crowd at the waterpark there were plenty of retards who would fit his description
 
So I went to Scotiabank Theatre at West Edmonton Mall last night with a friend to watch the Rumble with several hundred other people (sold out and absolutely packed). Boy, does it ever open your eyes to the Internet Wrestling Bubble and how we nitpick everything and are all cynical and jaded and hypercritical.

Vince changing finishes because everyone "knows" the result is foolish. Most of the people in that theatre were MARKS. All they knew is what they saw on TV. I swear, half of them probably don't know wrestling is fake. Seriously. When Punk pinned Rock, I thought there was going to be a riot in the theatre. These people were PISSED and started yelling stuff at the screen.

At one point, I was doing some fantasy booking with my friend and said that the Shield should do a run in but attack Punk and turn Rock heel, and this woman next to us chimed in and said, "The Shield can't interfere because then Punk will be stripped of the title!" And she said it like I was the dumbest person in the world for not remembering that stipulation because that's what Vince decreed, and Vince was the boss, of course! And listening in on other people's conversations through the night was mind-boggling. They talked about wrestling entirely as if it were real.

When Rock pinned Punk, the guy behind me said, "Finally, our 434 day nightmare is over!" with the tone someone would say to their doctor, "Thanks for getting all the cancer." This guy was genuinely relieved that Punk was no longer the champion. And needless to say, when the Rock won the title, the theatre went absolutely batcrap crazy.

Out in the real world, wrestling fans are exactly what the stereotype says they are. And that's who Vince books for. They cheered when the babyface team of Del Rio and Rodriguez cheated to tie Big Show to the ropes. They cheered Cena beating Ryback at the Rumble. They went nuts when Jericho returned. They're sheep and WWE pushes their buttons and they react.

People say the same shit after every awful major WWE show...the WWE just promotes to the lowest common denominator of fan and they eat it up!!

So why is wrestling, on a weekly basis seen by less eyes than ever before? Ratings for the WWE alone, are as low as they've been since before the Attitude Era. Outside of WrestleMania, buyrates for PPVs are low. House Shows are so low they need to re-brand them.

People do not really believe that crap, do they?
 
According to some people The Rock is going to bring in a bunch of new fans who never watched wrestling before because he is such a big movie star, and those new fans who were never fans before are going to spend 55 bucks on a show just for the Rock.
 
According to some people The Rock is going to bring in a bunch of new fans who never watched wrestling before because he is such a big movie star, and those new fans who were never fans before are going to spend 55 bucks on a show just for the Rock.

I mean, in the case of The Rock, this is true.

He moves ratings, ppv buys, and attendance. We have the data to back that up.
 
Warner and I do our best to put some perspective on yesterday's Royal Rumble PPV:

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2013/01/29/royal-rumblewwe-therapy-and-dgusa/

Joe and Rich are back to get the smart fans off the ledge in regards to the WWE and Royal Rumble. We talk about the Rumble matches, their ramifications, our opinion on the booking decisions, where the WWE goes from here and much more. We also delve into Dragon Gate USA’s iPPV weekend and lastly discuss a recent Twitter war (don’t worry we’re all cool now) between our site and VOWLive.com (Voice of Wrestling).
 
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What forums are you guys reading where guys have issues with the outcomes of the matches?

I'm not reading the hatred for the outcomes...
 
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