The Book-Readers' GoT Thread [SPOILERS]

[kyhadley]

There I made the thread. We may now talk in peace.

 

[kyhadley]

Book the third spoiler 383/1128 pages in:

 

Holy shit the chapter where Dany buys the Unsullied was fucking awesome.

I'd say that scene definitely lived up to my expectations. It's interesting how they dealt with Selmy since they can't really hide who he is on screen. Waiting for the moment that he outs Mormont. Also sad not to see Belwas.

How about that scene in the first ep with Catelyn regarding Jon Snow? I thought that was a weird addition.

 

[kyhadley]

I love seeing the noobies get all excited about Khaleesi setting off to war since she's been so booooring lately. They have no idea...

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I haven't read the originales in a long time, so, my memory sucks...

Did Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen run away together or was she kidnapped and raped? I seem to recall it being a lot more of a Helena of Troy situation moreover the tale Robert spoke of with kidnappin and raping.

This came up in regards to Jon Snow being some super Stark-Targaryen hybrid master, and ruler, of the world discussion and my memory was fuzzy.

 

[NAHSTE]

I haven't read the originales in a long time, so, my memory sucks...

Did Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen run away together or was she kidnapped and raped?

Left ambiguous but there are enough hints that point to it being consensual. When Meera and Joen tell Bran the story of the Harrenhall tournament it clicked to me. It's when Rhaegz and Lyanna first fell in love. Robert just could never admit to himself the truth, and Ned humored him.

Count me as a subscriber to the Ralph Lauren Jeans theory. But the only one living character who knows for sure is Howland Reed, who was with Ned when Lyanna died, and Gurrmz has kept him out of the action for now.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Howland lets the cat out of the bag at some point, probably toward the end of the series after Dany gets her destruction on.

 

[Atlas]

i think i might go through the GoT thread and move all the book spoilers into this thread...

fuck larry

 

[kyhadley]

nevermind

 

[NAHSTE]

This is from the AV Club's "newbies" review for non-book readers ....

"I’m more and more afraid that there isn’t going to be quite as devastating a closing punch as there was in the last two seasons..."

These poor ignorant souls. They have no idea.

:dead:

 

[Villain]

So do we talk about the show or the books in this thread?

 

[seaplus]

only 20% of the way through book 5. spoiler for up to that point

 

so excited to see the Bran storyline now that he is with the Children of the Forest.

Arya has been slipping down my list of favorite characters for awhile. might be because she was been pretty predictable in the 4th book. at least Cersei got what was coming to her. fucking Lannisters slowly going down. hope Jaime lasts ... Tyrion is getting boring for me. he needs to arrive at that place (forgot destinations name?) already or pirates need to take him. pretty sure Danny won't be there if he does get there, but something exciting should happen either way

Lord John Stark would have been so awesome, so awesome. do you think he is actually Ned Stark's kid?

Samwell storyline doesn't show much promise to me at this point ... maybe i'm wrong and the dude he met in Oldtown is going to change things up big time?

i feel sorry for Reeeeeeek. wonder what special mission they have coming up for him

 

[NAHSTE]

So do we talk about the show or the books in this thread?

This is for discussion of the TV show as an adaptation of the books. Just to spare the TV fans of sifting through a minefield of spoilers and "BUT THE BOOKS DID IT THIS WAY" type posts...

 

[Fappin Raptor]

Have you guys heard of the Roose Change theory?

 

[mgoblue2290]

Yes and I am all aboard.

 

[NAHSTE]

Have you guys heard of the Roose Change theory?

:yep:

The Roose is loose!

 

[SethMode]

I like this idea for a few reasons. For one, it removes pretty much all speculation from the books about Jeyne Westerling, and anytime a GRRM red herring/abandoned plot idea isn't completely sewed shut, I'm left still somehow talking myself into it coming back (I think what they did with Edric Storm/Gendry was great). For two, it definitely helps to really drive home Roose as a major player, which I still don't think the show has done...although, while my book knowledge is a bit dated, at what point in the books did it seem like Roose was really going to be a player, outside of a few throw away lines that don't really gain much ground until AFTER the RW?

The one part where I'm not wild is that I just think it's a touch too wrapped up in a pretty little made-for-tv bow. We'll see though. Unless they write a reason for her to have to leave the wedding at the last second (return home for a sick parent or something?) I see NO way she's either not a spy or just murdered...ending the Robb might have an heir storyline anyway.

As for the R+L = J "theory"...it's been so well speculated in the books now that people have cracked them open so thoroughly, I think the only way that doesn't end up happening is if GRRM decides to pull a Lost and change everything up since he's mad people guessed his big surprise. Part of me does kind of like idea of "Nope he's just a bastard, Ned really did it" is kind of awesome too, because I swear I know of no one that actually believes Ned fucking Stark nailed some lowborn woman and had a child out of wedlock, and just conveniently decided to never tell anyone, ever, who the mother was.

 

[mgoblue2290]

I believe GRRM has said he stopped reading fan theories because he didn't want to change stuff based on someone guessing it.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

In the show we see that Blackfish is with the Stark camp on their way to the Wedding, but we know that he wasn't there. He's suppose to be at Riverrun. He could possibly take Talisa or she may just end up dying.

 

[SethMode]

In the show we see that Blackfish is with the Stark camp on their way to the Wedding, but we know that he wasn't there. He's suppose to be at Riverrun. He could possibly take Talisa or she may just end up dying.

Ah right, I keep forgetting about show-him. It's weird that he's with them at all, honestly. Who the fuck is in Riverrun?

 

[NAHSTE]

In the show we see that Blackfish is with the Stark camp on their way to the Wedding, but we know that he wasn't there. He's suppose to be at Riverrun. He could possibly take Talisa or she may just end up dying.

The show has also made it seem like Bolton and Karstark are Robb's only bannerman. I miss the Greatjon and the Mormont girls.