The Bulls Would Be Championship Contenders if...

[Senser81]

real =/= realistic.


Your hypothetical is neither, but some hypotheticals manage to be less ridiculous then the one you presented. There are some hypothetical situations that could actually happen in real life. This is not one of them. Hence, unrealistic.

Yeah, the Bulls holding onto Elton Brand is unrealistic, yet the Falcons having a "dream backfield" of Michael Turner and Jamal Anderson is realistic.

 

[FirstTimer]

Judging by that, it looks like he thought I was serious. Keep trolling, you're the man!

Just don't understand Senser...

As usual you make a post that makes no sense and say soemthing that has laready been said 6 times in the thread by others somehow thinking you made a point and get called out on it.

 

[FirstTimer]

An unrealistic hypothetical? Aren't all hypothetical's unrealistic?

No, a good hypothetical is realistic and makes sense. Something that makes you think, you know that COULD have happened and would be interesting.

Your hypothetical isn't realistic or plausible in any sense in so many ways.

As mentioned before by me You can't have Curry and Aldridge on the team together. How the hell does a team of Hinirch, Gordon, Artest, Brand, and Aldridge as starters(let alone your bench)end up in the lottery and take Derrick Rose?

Why is Jamal Crawford even on the team? The Bulls didn't draft him.

And on and on.

What you have posted here is a BAD hypothetical.

Yeah, the Bulls holding onto Elton Brand is unrealistic, yet the Falcons having a "dream backfield" of Michael Turner and Jamal Anderson is realistic.

Come one Senser, you know that was a joke.

 

[ralaw]

In 2007, who seems like a bust now and probably will stay a bust, they selected Joakim Noah.

How is Noah a bust? I'm getting tired of hearing and reading this everywhere. He was drafted 9th overall and if you look at history not many 9th overall picks are doing much better.[ I know, I know some smart guy will point to Igoudala or Stoudemire as 9th overall picks and claim their better, but please get the point.]

Past the top 2-3 picks the NBA draft is full of guys who are role players jut like Noah. Every high draft pick isn't going to be a superstar. People make it seem as if Noah had these huge expectations coming into the league when almost every "draft expert" knew he wouldn't be anything more than a role player. At this point in his career Noah is doing what was expected of him coming out of college - 6 points, 7 rebounds and a block a game are decent given the crop of bigmen coming into the league today.

 

[Senser81]

Come one Senser, you know that was a joke.

Yeah, I know it was a joke, but its two completely different situations. No one is saying 'what if Jayson Williams hadn't been injured', but thats the analogy that was drawn with Jamal Anderson.

 

[FirstTimer]

Yeah, I know it was a joke, but its two completely different situations. No one is saying 'what if Jayson Williams hadn't been injured', but thats the analogy that was drawn with Jamal Anderson.

I know but he just went overboard and nuts with it to have fun.

 

[FirstTimer]

How is Noah a bust? I'm getting tired of hearing and reading this everywhere. He was drafted 9th overall and if you look at history not many 9th overall picks are doing much better.[ I know, I know some smart guy will point to Igoudala or Stoudemire as 9th overall picks and claim their better, but please get the point.]

Past the top 2-3 picks the NBA draft is full of guys who are role players jut like Noah. Every high draft pick isn't going to be a superstar. People make it seem as if Noah had these huge expectations coming into the league when almost every "draft expert" knew he wouldn't be anything more than a role player. At this point in his career Noah is doing what was expected of him coming out of college - 6 points, 7 rebounds and a block a game are decent given the crop of bigmen coming into the league today.

I think the issue with Noah is more complex.

1. That pick was the Bulls pick through the Knicks as part of the Curry trade, having already taken Ty Thomas the year before and seeing his failures as a rookie the Bulls fans wanted to see the Bulls make a bigger splash at #9 and actually feel as though they got something good from the Curry deal. They ended up taking Noah. Which essentially was Ty Thomas with a few more years in college and less of an offensive game.

I know draft experts said Noah would be no more than a role player but even still the perception with fans is that with a lottery/top 10 pick you should get an impact player, not a role player. The goal is/should be an impact player. If the guy ends up being a role player so be it, but IMO you don't take a guy at #9 with the intention of him being a role player. That's what the Bulls did there with Noah.

Hard to sell that to a fan base who feels they are a legit post scoring threat away from being a real contender.

2. The pick of Noah didn't make any sense from a team needs stand point. The Bulls biggest problem since the departure of Curry had been the lack of inside scoring. Ty Thomas didn't solve this a year before and Noah, with an even more limited offensive game, definetly didn't solve it in '07. A player like Spencer Hawes was available and the Bulls passed on him. Hawes was the type of player the Bulls needed to score inside IMO and should have been the pick, especially with Wallace and Thomas already on the roster.

Essentially the pick was considered a "bust" by many as soon as Stern announced Noah's name because the pick didn't make any sense.


3. Noah has been a distraction numerous times and as much as he was brought into be a leader, energy guy in many ways has fell short. From arrests last season, to being out of shape for most of this year he just hasn't showed the focus and dedication you'd like to see from someone who was a top 10 pick.

 

[Senser81]

3. Noah has been a distraction numerous times and as much as he was brought into be a leader, energy guy in many ways has fell short. From arrests last season, to being out of shape for most of this year he just hasn't showed the focus and dedication you'd like to see from someone who was a top 10 pick.

Yeah, wasn't he suspended for a couple games last year for, really, no other reason than everyone else on the team couldn't stand him? All I know is I wouldn't want that idiot on my team at all, much less give up a #9 overall pick for him. He's like TO without TO's ability.

 

[FirstTimer]

Yeah, wasn't he suspended for a couple games last year for, really, no other reason than everyone else on the team couldn't stand him? All I know is I wouldn't want that idiot on my team at all, much less give up a #9 overall pick for him. He's like TO without TO's ability.

Yeah basically he got into shouting match with one of the coaches and some teammates Skiles suspended him for a game then Ben Wallace called a players meeting and actually asked for a game to be added on.

 

[FirstTimer]

Isn't that a little contradicting, or did the 6 other people make "no sense" either. You know....the point that you're making My point made perfect sense, I just didn't read the 3 pages ahead of me before I posted....I agreed with you haha. So stop taking it out on the world cause Dad didn't hug you enough or something. You've really been a ray of light at VSN.

Actually your post made only a little bit of sense seeing as in your example you included guys like Ray Allen and KG. Two players not even drafted by the Celtics. Your intial thought that it would be impossible to think like the original poster because of salary restrictions etc was on the right path, then your swerved off the road into a tree in your mumbled, non sensical example, obviously not even knowing who drafted whom, and showing you didn't even comprhend the point of the thread..... completely killing any point you were trying to make.

My dad may not have hugged me but it's made up for by the fact that I wake up every morning with your mom's face in my crotch.

I'd say it's more than an even trade.

BJ's>>>hugs.

 

[FirstTimer]

You realize my Celtics scenario was the furthest thing from serious I could have possibly wrote right?

Furthest thing from even being good mockery as well. It was an epic fail at even trying to mock the original posters point.

So in summation:
You come into a thread. State something that has already been said as if it's new.
Then go on to try and mock the OP
Miss on your attempt badly b/c you include players they traded for and didn't draft.
Look like a jackass.

Nice job.

mom jokes are funny though, a truly golden sense of humor you have.

That reminds me. Your mom likes golden showers too.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, I know it was a joke, but its two completely different situations. No one is saying 'what if Jayson Williams hadn't been injured', but thats the analogy that was drawn with Jamal Anderson.

Come on Senser, you of all people should recognize hyperbole. I thought you would enjoy my joke thread, but I guess not.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, the Bulls holding onto Elton Brand is unrealistic, yet the Falcons having a "dream backfield" of Michael Turner and Jamal Anderson is realistic.

And when did I say my thread was realistic? I already presented an example of a realistic scenario on page 1 of this thread, the Phoenix Suns example. Obviously my Falcons thread was ridiculous, but so is a thread that asks what would happen if a team can keep every draft pick for 10 years. Especially a team that has had as many top 5 picks as Chicago in that span.

It ignores important factors like salary cap and team record that prevent a team from building such fantastical rosters.

 

[FirstTimer]

Come on Senser, you of all people should recognize hyperbole. I thought you would enjoy my joke thread, but I guess not.

Shut up SAT boy.

 

[Senser81]

Come on Senser, you of all people should recognize hyperbole. I thought you would enjoy my joke thread, but I guess not.

A joke thread is only funny when its not making fun of me.

 

[NAHSTE]

A joke thread is only funny when its not making fun of me.

Wait so you are Berowsk?

 

[Senser81]

Wait so you are Berowsk?

Yeah, thats it. I'm reviving my old MM ways and making multiple VSN accounts so I can log in as other people and agree with 'me'.

 

[Berowsk]

LOL wtf why was I groaned now, this thread was made like last year.

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL wtf why was I groaned now, this thread was made like last year.

Because I felt like it.

 

[FedEx227]

I just groaned you too. Thought it was a recent thread. Still awful though... so you deserve it.