The CARTEL clearly doing something right...

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

UCLA is 6-6 and going to play in the Pac12 title game.

Win...they go to the Rose Bowl.
Lose...they stay home.

lulz.

Almost as good as Alabama, not winning their division, nevermind conference, playing in the National Title game.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Entire sport is a joke and impossible to take seriously. It gets worse every year.

 

[Archer]

Utah has the tie-breaker and an easier last matchup then UCLA?

Also fuck Bama getting a re-match.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Entire sport is a joke and impossible to take seriously. It gets worse every year.

This is the thing...

Unlike any other sport...teams in college football have more goals than simply "win the BCS championship"...

Its a very fragmented sport.

Even in the FCS level, the Ivy League doesn't play in the playoffs...the Ivy League schools have one goal...win the Ivy League.

Winning the MAC is big for the schools in the MAC. For Big10 and Pac12 schools...winning the Rose Bowl is more important than anything sans, a national title.

There are difference standards for success in the sport. And, its what makes the sport as great as it is.

In the NFL or any other pro sport...sure, there is a playoff, but we're still talking about a handful or two of teams that actually have a shot and therefore, their games have meaning. In CFB and CBB, the same holds true, for the national title, only a certain few teams are in the mix, but considering the standards for success in the sports vary across 120 teams...it makes all sorts of games hold meaning in some way.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This is the thing...

Unlike any other sport...teams in college football have more goals than simply "win the BCS championship"...

Its a very fragmented sport.

Even in the FCS level, the Ivy League doesn't play in the playoffs...the Ivy League schools have one goal...win the Ivy League.

Winning the MAC is big for the schools in the MAC. For Big10 and Pac12 schools...winning the Rose Bowl is more important than anything sans, a national title.

There are difference standards for success in the sport. And, its what makes the sport as great as it is.

The reason some of these goals are held in such high regard, is it's the only reasonable goal for these teams.

There is no reason winning the MAC or winning the Rose Bowl can't still be a goal for teams, and still be considered great accomplishments, along with a playoff.

College hoops teams take great pride in league titles and league tournament titles, too.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The reason some of these goals are held in such high regard, is it's the only reasonable goal for these teams.

There is no reason winning the MAC or winning the Rose Bowl can't still be a goal for teams, and still be considered great accomplishments, along with a playoff.

College hoops teams take great pride in league titles and league tournament titles, too.

I don't disagree...in D1 CFB, I only see an ~8 team playoff at maximum...no different than the same 8 teams in contention for the BCS in the first place...it just determines the champion is a more modern/conventional way.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

UCLA is 6-6 and going to play in the Pac12 title game.

Win...they go to the Rose Bowl.
Lose...they stay home.

lulz.

Since many hated my idea of selecting conference title game teams differently, and said winning divisions is the only right way, whats so funny & wrong about this?

(I agree with you, just wondering)

 

[shag773]

UCLA is 6-6 and going to play in the Pac12 title game.

Win...they go to the Rose Bowl.
Lose...they stay home.

lulz.

Almost as good as Alabama, not winning their division, nevermind conference, playing in the National Title game.

They are actually 6-5 and playing USC this weekend to determine who goes to the championship game from the south, so I'm not sure where you got all that from.

*Edit* I forgot USC was banned, sorry Larry :crying:

 

[ZoneBlitz]

They are actually 6-5 and playing USC this weekend to determine who goes to the championship game from the south, so I'm not sure where you got all that from.

USC cant go because they are banned, im not sure if thats what you meant. Its gonna come down to either 6-5 UCLA or 6-5 Arizona State from the south, or possibly Utah.

 

[shag773]

USC cant go because they are banned, im not sure if thats what you meant. Its gonna come down to either 6-5 UCLA or 6-5 Arizona State from the south.

Oh shit thats right.

Yeah, that's kind of funny then.

 

[ThunderHorse]

They are actually 6-5 and playing USC this weekend to determine who goes to the championship game from the south, so I'm not sure where you got all that from.

*Edit* I forgot USC was banned, sorry Larry :crying:

it slipped my mind too.

It's weird seeing these USC games on TV that mean absolutely nothing.

 

[FirstTimer]

Utah can still get into the Pac 12 TG too. UCLA loses and Utah win Utah goes to the Pac12 TG at 8-4.

To be fair to the CARTEL here if not for Pete Carrol and USC being crooked assholes there's no issue here...more than likely. However even if USC was bowl elgible a UCLA win next week over them still would have put them in the Pac 12 TG

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

it slipped my mind too.

It's weird seeing 90% of CFB games on TV that mean absolutely nothing.

der fixed


Here's hoping everyone loses twice, Houston wins out, and they end up fluking their way into the NCG via the computers, where they are promptly beaten 45-6.

Anything it takes to embarrass THE CARTEL.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

THE CARTEL embarrasses themselves.

We could see 7-6 UCLA team make the BCS, and 7-5 Louisville is on a collision course with the BCS as we speak.

Yet...the media gets all in a huff over Boise State, TCU, and Houston being in the BCS picture when they are often 11-1, 12-0 teams. lmfao.

 

[Senser81]

Since many hated my idea of selecting conference title game teams differently, and said winning divisions is the only right way, whats so funny & wrong about this?

(I agree with you, just wondering)

I would guess the issues are 1) the PAC12 is terrible, and 2) teams getting automatic BCS bids. I have no problem with UCLA playing in the PAC12 title game if they won their division...thats how conference play is setup. I do have a problem with UCLA getting an automatic BCS bid. The problem is that the CARTEL system is completely inflexible in some areas, yet entirely subjective in others. It reminds me of those Tyler Palko Pitt teams that would go 7-5 and play in the Fiesta Bowl because they "won" the Big East. Why? If you have the power to essentially chose the 'national champion', then why can't you give me a decent Fiesta Bowl matchup?

 

[Mogriffjr]

Fuck doubleduece...groaning fag who doesn't post.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I would guess the issues are 1) the PAC12 is terrible, and 2) teams getting automatic BCS bids. I have no problem with UCLA playing in the PAC12 title game if they won their division...thats how conference play is setup. I do have a problem with UCLA getting an automatic BCS bid. The problem is that the CARTEL system is completely inflexible in some areas, yet entirely subjective in others. It reminds me of those Tyler Palko Pitt teams that would go 7-5 and play in the Fiesta Bowl because they "won" the Big East. Why? If you have the power to essentially chose the 'national champion', then why can't you give me a decent Fiesta Bowl matchup?

The Pac12 isn't actually terrible.

Its just their two best teams are in the same side and the best team in the South in banded.

Out of their Top 3 schools, only one gets pushed.

Then they have a bunch of middle of the road teams.

 

[Senser81]

The Pac12 isn't actually terrible.

Its just their two best teams are in the same side and the best team in the South in banded.

Out of their Top 3 schools, only one gets pushed.

Then they have a bunch of middle of the road teams.

I think the middle-of-the-road teams in the PAC12 are terrible. ASU is overrated, as usual. I don't understand how anyone loses to UCLA...they got destroyed by a Texas team that has trouble scoring in double-digits, and their offense is inept. Cal has been a big disappointment. Utah was supposed to add toughness to the PAC10, but they have been no more than average.

JMO.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I would guess the issues are 1) the PAC12 is terrible, and 2) teams getting automatic BCS bids. I have no problem with UCLA playing in the PAC12 title game if they won their division...thats how conference play is setup. I do have a problem with UCLA getting an automatic BCS bid. The problem is that the CARTEL system is completely inflexible in some areas, yet entirely subjective in others. It reminds me of those Tyler Palko Pitt teams that would go 7-5 and play in the Fiesta Bowl because they "won" the Big East. Why? If you have the power to essentially chose the 'national champion', then why can't you give me a decent Fiesta Bowl matchup?

Winning the Pac-12 is deserving of a BCS berth. UCLA just has no business being in the Pac-12 title game.

I agree the Big East doesnt deserve a BCS berth though.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I think the middle-of-the-road teams in the PAC12 are terrible. ASU is overrated, as usual. I don't understand how anyone loses to UCLA...they got destroyed by a Texas team that has trouble scoring in double-digits, and their offense is inept. Cal has been a big disappointment. Utah was supposed to add toughness to the PAC10, but they have been no more than average.

JMO.

You n I have different definitions of terrible, I guess.

As a bett0r, I've watched plenty of terrible this year.

Want to know what terrible looks like in a major conference...

Watch Indiana or Kansas or Texas Tech after the Oklahoma win or Ole Miss or Kentucky...or if you really want to gouge your eyes out, watch Colorado if the Pac12 tickles your fancy.

That's not even discussing the dregs like FAU or Akron that are on another level of terrible.