I dont get what you are trying to imply. However, assuming that you are refering to the shittyness of big bens line, big ben is built(not physically) different from every other Qb in this league...you cant even make the comparison. Palmer and Cutler arent anywhere near mobile as big ben, so bringing him into the argument is pointless. You are basically comparing a elusive QB who can make plays out of the pocket in ben, with Palmer who cant make plays out of the pocket with similar effectiveness as big ben at all. Yeah..Cutler is capable of making plays out of the pocket, but still...he is no big ben. The point is big ben isnt your prototypical QB. Ben makes a living doing things that is frowned upon for a Qb and gets away with it with little consequence. He isnt the same class of qb..leave him out of this.