This is it.. I'm fed up

[zack54attack]

You could have had Marc Bulger, if you had waited.

And used those picks to grab A. Boldin.

Championship.

We actually had a shot at Boldin..

It was Hester, a bunch of picks.. But the Bears denied it on draft day.

 

[Esjay]

It's really, really funny reading threads like this. This is what happens when you set your expectations too high, you guys have no receivers and no offensive line. Seriously what did you expect?

 

[RainboUnicorn]

Muhammad in 2005 on the opening day. Pace/Omiyale this year. People considered Marinelli a "free agent". They spent most of the 2006 and 2007 season reupping guys like Briggs, Tillman, Vasher, etc. They've spent money both inside and outside their organization for players. Also I find it hilarious that the Bears are considered "cheap" when they trade away 1st round draft picks for a young QB then go onto give him a large extension 4 weeks into the season. You can argue if the money was spent wisely or in the right areas but to call the Bears cheap is laughable seeing as they have one of the higher payrolls in football.

You are telling me that Pace/Omiyale is your example of a big free agent signing? We also signed Josh Bullocks and boy that was huge!

I'll maybe give you Moose.

 

[zack54attack]

Muhammad in 2005 on the opening day. Pace/Omiyale this year. People considered Marinelli a "free agent". They spent most of the 2006 and 2007 season reupping guys like Briggs, Tillman, Vasher, etc. They've spent money both inside and outside their organization for players. Also I find it hilarious that the Bears are considered "cheap" when they trade away 1st round draft picks for a young QB then go onto give him a large extension 4 weeks into the season. You can argue if the money was spent wisely or in the right areas but to call the Bears cheap is laughable seeing as they have one of the higher payrolls in football.

LOL @ Pace. Who is old as fuck.

LOL @ signing Omiyale as a Guard, who has never played Guard in his life.

 

[FirstTimer]

It's really, really funny reading threads like this. This is what happens when you set your expectations too high, you guys have no receivers and no offensive line. Seriously what did you expect?

The no WR thing most knew heading into the season but our Oline had a very solid/good season last year and many felt it had been improved in the offseason. The downright pitiful play of our Oline this is out of nowhere to be honest.

 

[1ke]

Ya, what hurts the most is that its every phase on the field! There is not one thing that the bears do decently. Special Teams and Dave Toeb (sp?) are the best we have, but even today Knox had that dumbass fumble.

 

[FirstTimer]

You are telling me that Pace/Omiyale is your example of a big free agent signing? We also signed Josh Bullocks and boy that was huge!

I'll maybe give you Moose.

Pace/Omiyale on top of going out and getting Jay Cutler then signing him to an extension plus a premier assistant coach is a pretty damn good free agency period...or at least it was supposed to be. The Bears graded out very highly in that category by most any objective observer. Yeah, the signings have fallen on their face but that doesn't make the Bears "cheap". They spent the money...it just has not been put to use. It's two separate arguments.

Being cheap =/= to signing players who end up sucking.

PS as of 2008 the Bears were 10th in the NFL in payroll. That was before the Omiyale, Pace, and Cutler deals/extensions.

LOL @ Pace. Who is old as fuck.

LOL @ signing Omiyale as a Guard, who has never played Guard in his life.

Yeah and Pace being old didn't stop people from being excited about him. Nobody expected him to fall off this hard. Your own thread and it's anger betrays the fact that you felt Pace would be good, but he hasn't been and has failed to live up to expectations just like the rest of the team.

Yes, moving Omiyale to guard was a retarded move. But that doesn't make the Bears cheap. It's more of an indictment on their personnel/scouting department.

 

[zack54attack]

Pace/Omiyale on top of going out and getting Jay Cutler then signing him to an extension plus a premier assistant coach is a pretty damn good free agency period...or at least it was supposed to be. The Bears graded out very highly in that category by most any objective observer. Yeah, the signings have fallen on their face but that doesn't make the Bears "cheap". They spent the money...it just has not been put to use. It's two separate arguments.

Being cheap =/= to signing players who end up sucking.


Yeah and Pace being old didn't stop people from being excited about him. Nobody expected him to fall off this hard. Your own thread and it's anger betrays the fact that you felt Pace would be good, but he hasn't been and has failed to live up to expectations just like the rest of the team.

Yes, moving Omiyale to guard was a retarded move. But that doesn't make the Bears cheap. It's more of an indictment on their personnel/scouting department.

I didnt expect Pace to be great. I thought he would fit in well, help out the younger Oline, and just be solid.

The Guy cant block a Highschooler. He has been as bad as you can be.

 

[Tengo Juego]

Well, at least the Gators are having an awesome season. Enjoy Tebow while you can.

 

[RainboUnicorn]

Pace/Omiyale on top of going out and getting Jay Cutler then signing him to an extension plus a premier assistant coach is a pretty damn good free agency period...or at least it was supposed to be. The Bears graded out very highly in that category by most any objective observer. Yeah, the signings have fallen on their face but that doesn't make the Bears "cheap". They spent the money...it just has not been put to use. It's two separate arguments.

Being cheap =/= to signing players who end up sucking.

PS as of 2008 the Bears were 10th in the NFL in payroll. That was before the Omiyale, Pace, and Cutler deals/extensions.


Yeah and Pace being old didn't stop people from being excited about him. Nobody expected him to fall off this hard. Your own thread and it's anger betrays the fact that you felt Pace would be good, but he hasn't been and has failed to live up to expectations just like the rest of the team.

Yes, moving Omiyale to guard was a retarded move. But that doesn't make the Bears cheap. It's more of an indictment on their personnel/scouting department.

So they aren't cheap they just sign players nobody else wants is that it?

and I'm not talking about payroll. I'm talking about signing a big free agent. Not an offensive lineman who had one career start because of injury or a 10 year vet who was cut because he has bad knees.

 

[FirstTimer]

I didnt expect Pace to be great.

I never said you did.

The Guy cant block a Highschooler. He has been as bad as you can be.

Ok. And that proves the Bears are "cheap" how? Yes, Pace has been awful most of the season outside of 2 games. Agreed. But Pace being awful doesn't make the Bears cheap. They still went out and spent the money to get him.

 

[zack54attack]

JA hasnt been a great GM either.

I didnt like not paying Berrian and seeing him go to Minnesota, and then Trading Chris Harris away because "we have too many Safetys"

 

[zack54attack]

I never said you did.





Ok. And that proves the Bears are "cheap" how? Yes, Pace has been awful most of the season outside of 2 games. Agreed. But Pace being awful doesn't make the Bears cheap. They still went out and spent the money to get him.

I didnt say the Bears were cheap. lol.

 

[Esjay]

What makes you guys (zack and rainbow) think making a big splash in FA is what this team needs? Look at the best two teams of the past decade, the Patriots and Colts. How often do those teams go out and sign a top 5 FA? Hardly ever.

 

[FirstTimer]

So they aren't cheap they just sign players nobody else wants is that it?

*face palm*.

Let's just take a look at the signings this offseason.

Pace: Was fielding offers from other teams. Notably the Baltimore Ravens.

Omiyale: Signed on the opening hour of free agency. Was fielding offers from numerous teams.

Marinelli: Turned down offers from other teams, notably the Seahawks, to come to the Bears.

Cutler: Wanted by Cleveland, Washington, Detroit was rumored. Chicago paid up to get him...then signed him to a very lucrative extension.

Other teams wanted these players. Again you pose a theory that holds no weight in reality.

 

[FirstTimer]

What makes you guys think making a big splash in FA is what this team needs? Look at the best two teams of the past decade, the Patriots and Colts. How often do those teams go out and sign a top 5 FA? Hardly ever.

Exactly. Thank you. The Bears failures in the drafts recently>>>>>>>>>.failures in free agency as far as importance to the team.

 

[zack54attack]

What makes you guys (zack and rainbow) think making a big splash in FA is what this team needs? Look at the best two teams of the past decade, the Patriots and Colts. How often do those teams go out and sign a top 5 FA? Hardly ever.

I dont think signing a big FA will make us great. It will help, but we will still be bad next year. We have nothing to look forward to in the Draft, unless we trade something for picks. So FA is our best bet in the first step to rebuild.

 

[FirstTimer]

I didnt say the Bears were cheap. lol.

Then why respond "LOLing" to a post pointing out the Bears spent money on players this offseason? Yes I know Pace and Omiyale have sucked. I never said they didn't So your response seemingly then served no purpose.

 

[zack54attack]

*face palm*.

Let's just take a look at the signings this offseason.

Pace: Was fielding offers from other teams. Notably the Baltimore Ravens.

Omiyale: Signed on the opening hour of free agency. Was fielding offers from numerous teams.

Marinelli: Turned down offers from other teams, notably the Seahawks, to come to the Bears.

Cutler: Wanted by Cleveland, Washington, Detroit was rumored. Chicago paid up to get him...then signed him to a very lucrative extension.

Other teams wanted these players. Again you pose a theory that holds no weight in reality.

Pace, marinelli, and Omiyale haven't done shit this season. Stupid moves by JA.

So why didnt we go after Housh?

 

[FirstTimer]

JA hasnt been a great GM either.

I didnt like not paying Berrian and seeing him go to Minnesota, and then Trading Chris Harris away because "we have too many Safetys"

Understatement of the thread.