Time to LOL at the UFC again?

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Jones and Chael coaching TUF and then fighting in April

This is what the UFC has become? Lol

 

[Saluki]

How does sonnen keep getting these fights? Are him and Dana white fucking?

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[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

How does sonnen keep getting these fights? Are him and Dana white fucking?

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Good talker.

 

[EmpireWF]

On the bright side, they have the biggest available $$$ fight at 205 (until Silva and Jones come to realize the huge $$$ they can do) and they're going straight for it.

Sure, Sonnen is a guy with his recent record...but $$$ talks. One of the criticisms Bellator gets is they're so rigid on not doing rematches (Alvarez/Chandler).

Jones is gonna smash Chael by the way...assuming the fight goes down.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I love how the narrative these days is how UFC makes the fights people want to see, records be damned, weight classes be damned, while Bellator sucks because fighters have to earn title shots and treating it like a sport is bad for business.

Remember when Strikeforce would give guys title shots all the time coming off losses, and mma media and UFC fans would rip them and say UFC titles were more pure blah blah blah?

Funny how UFC does the same thing now, but they are the smart ones, and Bellator doesnt know what theyre doing.

 

[Liquidrob]

I said it before and will say of again, the mma media and fans will not let another promotion succeed besides the ufc, never take them to task and always take shows at the other promotions

 

[EmpireWF]

Call me a Sonnen mark but it's not the worst thing in the world to try and force feed Bones/Chael on TUF and get a good buyrate out of it. It sucks balls for Hendo, that's for sure. Plus, someone said Shogun/Gustafsson would be the fight to crown the next contender so who knows if he'll ever get that shot again.

As for Bellator, it's not about them 'sucking,' it's about what could be their biggest fight (could have been...Alvarez/Chandler rematch) and they chose not to do it. Their format is fun but sometimes it backfires (M'Pumbu/Wiuff the biggest case).

People shat all over Strikeforce when they booked the 3rd fight between Thomson/Melendez (I may have done so too initially). Truth was, it was the best option for TV and it's a guaranteed awesome fight. Doesn't mean they did bad because they didn't give the shot to Healy (who definitely deserved it most from a wins/losses perspective).

The one SF title fight I thought was terrible was the Rockhold/Jardine farce. The idea Keith had any name warranting that spot was ridiculous but I guess they had no other options aside from no name SF guys.

I said it before and will say of again, the mma media and fans will not let another promotion succeed besides the ufc, never take them to task and always take shows at the other promotions

Welcome to the Bellator bandwagon. :smug:

 

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Chael will not talk his way into a title shot - Dana White

 

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Bellator is the only legit MMA promotion

Like I said, Bellator is the NFL, the ufc is the BCS

 

[Steel Mamba]

Best move they made since TUF1

 

[Liquidrob]

Mamba just trying to troll now, step up yo game son

 

[Steel Mamba]

I'm dead serious. If anyone can bring some life and excitement (ratings) back into this dead series it's Chael Sonnen. The numbers for this should definitely be their best in years. Plus, it'll lead to a very interesting fight, I still think Dan has gotten jipped, but this is a solid fight.

 

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Lol

 

[Steel Mamba]

You don't think the ratings are going to go up for this?? and you think I'm trolling... You have one of the P4P best squaring off against someone on a show that was tailored made for him. It's definitely going to draw a lot of interest. The whole TUF thing is dumb to begin with, but if you're going to do it I don't think you can find a better coaching matchup and fight than this.

 

[EmpireWF]

Best move they made since TUF1

You mean Vince McMahon's move.

 

[EmpireWF]

You don't think the ratings are going to go up for this?? and you think I'm trolling... You have one of the P4P best squaring off against someone on a show that was tailored made for him. It's definitely going to draw a lot of interest. The whole TUF thing is dumb to begin with, but if you're going to do I don't think you can find a better coaching matchup and fight than this.

I thought you were trolling.

Ratings will increase compared to the current season....but that's only because the current ratings are downright garbage. It would be an absolute disaster if JON JONES and CHAEL SONNEN couldn't draw more than 650,000 viewers on a night other than Friday.

If you're legit though, this is probably no better than Tito/Ken or the Kimbo season.

But yes, like you said....if they're continuing with the same old tired and played out format, this is as good a coaching match-up they can do. Although, theoretically, you'd want to create a NEW star...but Bonesy said no to Cormier.

 

[Steel Mamba]

I love how the narrative these days is how UFC makes the fights people want to see, records be damned, weight classes be damned, while Bellator sucks because fighters have to earn title shots and treating it like a sport is bad for business.

Remember when Strikeforce would give guys title shots all the time coming off losses, and mma media and UFC fans would rip them and say UFC titles were more pure blah blah blah?

Funny how UFC does the same thing now, but they are the smart ones, and Bellator doesnt know what theyre doing.

Go back to when the Jones vs Sonnen matchup was first announced. Dana answered a ton of questions regarding whether or not Chael deserved it in the first place. His answer was along the lines of no, but people want to see it and no one else stepped up. So what you're saying has not been the case at all.

 

[Steel Mamba]

You mean Vince McMahon's move.

If this is a Vince McMahon move, then what do you call all of the completely random and irrelevant matches that Pride loved to put on and the fans loved them for it?

 

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Lol @ mamba in this thread

This is a garbage match, chael has zero percent chance to win, not even a punchers chances, he can get a free shot to start the fight and still lose, he can't do anything to Bones, throw in the fact he hasn't even fought at 205 in years, no recent 205 fights, barely beat Bisping and than was TKOd at MW

And you have the nerve to rip Brock and how the UFC used him? This match up is garbage

Lol @ mamba being the guy to scream ratings, like I said, step up your trolling

 

[Steel Mamba]

Lol @ mamba in this thread

This is a garbage match, chael has zero percent chance to win, not even a punchers chances, he can get a free shot to start the fight and still lose, he can't do anything to Bones, throw in the fact he hasn't even fought at 205 in years, no recent 205 fights, barely beat Bisping and than was TKOd at MW

And you have the nerve to rip Brock and how the UFC used him? This match up is garbage

Lol @ mamba being the guy to scream ratings, like I said, step up your trolling

Yes, one's a legit fighter (whether you think he's deserving of title contention or not) and the other wasn't. Pretty clear difference. But good point to bring up, thanks. How is someone straight out the WWE getting title shots ok, but this isn't?