Top 10 Super Bowl Quarterbacks

[Houston]

Drew Brees
FEMA

Which is more reliable?

 

[FirstTimer]

Drew Brees
FEMA

Which is more reliable?

MM's server under Tex.

 

[PEYMAN18]

Do you post at CCS too because I don't think you can read to well.

Here is what I said:



Here are Bradshaw's stat lines from his Super Bowls:

9-14 96 yards and 1 TD 0 INT's

9-19 209 yards 2TD's and 0 INT's

17-30 317 yards 4TD's 1 INT *Stellar performance*

14-21 309 yards 2TD's 3 INT's.

Please explain to me how what I said was incorrect or is even up for discussion.

I never said you were incorrect, I just wanted to show how Bradshaw hate is unwarranted. He has better stats in the Superbowl than all quarterbacks not named Joe Montana.

 

[FirstTimer]

I just wanted to show how Bradshaw hate is unwarranted.

I don't "hate" Bradshaw.

I simply stated the fact that most of his success was in one stellar Super Bowl. He was solid in another one. In one he threw for less than 100 yards and then he had a sub par SB.

Bradshaw was a good NFL QB but was the beneficiary of playing on some very very good defensive and running oriented teams. He really only took over one SB. He managed the game for the most part to three more wins. Good for him but it doesn't mean he was the 2nd best SB QB ever.

 

[SuperKevin]

And Big Ben just proved why he has no buisness being on this list

 

[SethMode]

And Big Ben just proved why he has no buisness being on this list

I'm all for hating on Roethlisberger (and seriously, fuck you if you can't spell out his last name a this point) for the shit that he does off of the field, but blaming this game on him is LUDICROUS.

If anything, it's less of a reason as to why he doesn't belong on this list and more of a reason as to why this list has no business existing at all, as this game was even further proof of how it's a TEAM game.

 

[Maynard]

No.

Bradshaw only had one really stellar SB performance. The rest he threw the ball less than 20 times or threw more INT's than TD's. I'd rank Bradshaw in the Top 10 all time because of the volume of SB wins but he's not impressive enough to warrant #2 SB QB of all time.

Namath is the most overrated QB of all time. He didn't even account for a TD in SB III.

bradshaw won 4 rings...namaths win wasnt about his performance but about beating the NFL while being 15 point dogs.

bradshaw also played in another era. so u cant fault him for the run oriented game. keep in mind they also didnt use 3 and 4 wide like they do in todays game

 

[Maynard]

I'm all for hating on Roethlisberger (and seriously, fuck you if you can't spell out his last name a this point) for the shit that he does off of the field, but blaming this game on him is LUDICROUS.

they lost by 6. ben had 2 picks including a pick 6. if not for that the steelers win by 1

 

[bucky]

they lost by 6. ben had 1 picks including a pick 6. if not for that the steelers win by 1

2 picks.

Go Packers!!!!!

Kudos to the Steelers on a great season.

 

[SethMode]

they lost by 6. ben had 2 picks including a pick 6. if not for that the steelers win by 1

And both picks were on great plays by GB. What is your point Maynard?

Again, it's a team game and I think the entire discussion is silly.

 

[FirstTimer]

bradshaw won 4 rings

Ok? That doesn't mean he performed great in every Super Bowl.

namaths win wasnt about his performance

Ok STFU up then.

How can you be a Top 10 Super Bowl QB when you can't base it on your performance as the QB?!

bradshaw also played in another era. so u cant fault him for the run oriented game.

10 years before Bradshaw Namath was throwing for 4,000 yards in a season.

Bradshaw threw for less than 100 yards in one of his Super Bowl wins. I think Luckman was at least chucking it for triple digits back in the 40's. Enough with the "era" arguement.

 

[Senser81]

Here are Bradshaw's stat lines from his Super Bowls:

9-14 96 yards and 1 TD 0 INT's

9-19 209 yards 2TD's and 0 INT's

17-30 317 yards 4TD's 1 INT *Stellar performance*

14-21 309 yards 2TD's 3 INT's.

Please explain to me how what I said was incorrect or is even up for discussion.

SB IX...Bradshaw didn't throw that often, but most of his yards came on the game-clinching TD drive he led in the 4th quarter when the game was 9-6. His TD pass to Larry Brown made it 16-6 and sealed the game.

SB X...Again, Bradshaw didn't throw that often but he averaged over 10 yards per attempt (!) and had 2 TDs with no picks. His 64-yard TD pass to Swann in the 4th quarter with the score 15-10 once again sealed the game for Pittsburgh.

SB XIII...a great game. Just a quick note, Bradshaw was the first QB in SB history to throw for over 300 yards.

SB XIV...again, Bradshaw becomes the 2nd QB in SB history to throw for over 300 yards. The Steelers running game was completely ineffective against the Rams (37 carries, 84 yards). Bradshaw had to win the game for Pittsburgh, and he did. Down 13-10 at half, his 47-yard TD to Swann gave Pittsburgh the lead. Down 19-17 in the 4th quarter, his 73-yard TD to Stallworth gave Pittsburgh the lead again. His 45-yard pass to Stallworth set up the Steelers final, game-clinching TD. Bradshaw averaged almost 15 yards per attempt (!).

When you look at it, Bradshaw played a significant role in 3 of the 4 Steeler victories. In all 4 Super Bowls, he had QB ratings of over 100.

 

[FirstTimer]

SB IX...Bradshaw didn't throw that often, but most of his yards came on the game-clinching TD drive he led in the 4th quarter when the game was 9-6. His TD pass to Larry Brown made it 16-6 and sealed the game.

SB X...Again, Bradshaw didn't throw that often but he averaged over 10 yards per attempt (!) and had 2 TDs with no picks. His 64-yard TD pass to Swann in the 4th quarter with the score 15-10 once again sealed the game for Pittsburgh.

SB XIII...a great game. Just a quick note, Bradshaw was the first QB in SB history to throw for over 300 yards.

SB XIV...again, Bradshaw becomes the 2nd QB in SB history to throw for over 300 yards. The Steelers running game was completely ineffective against the Rams (37 carries, 84 yards). Bradshaw had to win the game for Pittsburgh, and he did. Down 13-10 at half, his 47-yard TD to Swann gave Pittsburgh the lead. Down 19-17 in the 4th quarter, his 73-yard TD to Stallworth gave Pittsburgh the lead again. His 45-yard pass to Stallworth set up the Steelers final, game-clinching TD. Bradshaw averaged almost 15 yards per attempt (!).

When you look at it, Bradshaw played a significant role in 3 of the 4 Steeler victories. In all 4 Super Bowls, he had QB ratings of over 100.

Ok.

What you said doesn't go against anything I said.

I didn't say Bradshaw wasn't a Top 10 SB QB and wasn't making the argument he didn't belong in general. Just that he's not 2nd all time.

That's it.

 

[strahanfan92]

How Brees made it over Simms is too funny.

Simms had arguably the greatest single performance in a Super Bowl with 22 of 25 passes (with 2 of his 3 incompletions being drops by receivers) for 268 yards, setting Super Bowl record for consecutive completions with 10, threw 3 TDs, and had a passer rating of 150.9.

 

[Maynard]

And both picks were on great plays by GB. What is your point Maynard?
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im not saying he is the reason they lost, but he certainly played like shit. If you had to point to one area that was poor, the qb is the first place i start. He was making bad throws and bad reads all game. Why was he trying to lob it deep while in his own end zone? maybe had hit throw the short route before his line broke down he doesnt get hit. The 2nd pick was a horrible read. Not to mention the countless over throws, under throws he made.

Its not like he didnt have a solid run game to balance things.

Ok? That doesn't mean he performed great in every Super Bowl.

Ok STFU up then.

How can you be a Top 10 Super Bowl QB when you can't base it on your performance as the QB?!

before you spout off saying STFU u should read the title of the thread and what the article is about. Its not best performance ever. Its best super QB's

imo, namath is the #10 super bowl QB. he had respectable numbers and totally managed that game. He called the plays based on the game plan and pulled off the biggest upset in SB history. Not to mention the impact the game had on the league.

Enough with the "era" arguement.

the era is a huge part of the discussion. you can not compare bradshaws numbers to todays standard. thats a total fail.

Thats like saying gas was cheap in the 70ies because it was $1 a gallon. Back then, $1 a gallon was like $3.50 a gallon today

his numbers for when he played were supurb. SB 9 was bad or course, but we arent basing this on 1 game. Its all four games. and that he won all four games

 

[FirstTimer]

before you spout off saying STFU u should read the title of the thread and what the article is about. Its not best performance ever. Its best super QB's

Ok? So if we aren't basing it on performances then Bradshaw definetly isn't the #2 of all time.

For fuck sakes, Elway is on this list and 3/5 of his appearances were losses and he didn't play well. Big game though I'm taking Elway over Bradshaw 10/10 times.

imo, namath is the #10 super bowl QB. he had respectable numbers and totally managed that game. He called the plays based on the game plan and pulled off the biggest upset in SB history. Not to mention the impact the game had on the league.

I don't care what impact the game had on the league. I'm not naming anyone a Top 10 SB QB if they didn't even account for a single TD in the ONE Super Bowl they played in.

the era is a huge part of the discussion. you can not compare bradshaws numbers to todays standard.

I'm not.

In fact I compared his 96 yards to Sid Luckman.
Nice "fail" on your part. Whatever the era throwing the ball less than 20 times in a Super Bowl isn't exactly the norm. Stabuach played in 4 SB's. He only threw the ball less than 20 times in one of them. A 24-3 win.

 

[Senser81]

Getting back to the original list, I have no idea why Staubach is at #7. If people are going to complain about the list, IMO this is the biggest mistake. The only reason Staubach won the MVP in SB VI is because Duane Thomas wouldn't talk to anyone, and Chuck Howley fell down on his apparent INT TD return. Both of those guys would have been better choices than Staubach. Staubach had a nice day, but he only threw for 119 yards. His performance in SB X was ok, but he threw 3 INTs and lost. Most of his yardage came against the prevent when the Steelers were up 21-10 in the 4th quarter. Same story in SB XIII...most of his yardage came against the prevent with the Steelers up 35-17 in the 4th quarter. And Staubach kind of flubbed a potential TD pass to Jackie Smith in the 3rd quarter. His winning performance in SB XII was again pedestrian...183 yards and 1 TD.

I don't get it.

 

[Maynard]

Ok? So if we aren't basing it on performances then Bradshaw definetly isn't the #2 of all time.

ok, so u disagree with my list. fair enough. I havnt seen your list so i cant comment on your #2. I dont know why your being bitter about my list especially when u didnt post one

 

[shag773]

Nice "fail" on your part. Whatever the era throwing the ball less than 20 times in a Super Bowl isn't exactly the norm. Stabuach played in 4 SB's. He only threw the ball less than 20 times in one of them. A 24-3 win.

That's actually not true. Look at the first 12 SB's played, which were played before the 1978 5 yard contact rule change. Everey single SB QB who lost the SB had 20+ attempts, which makes sense. However, 7 out of the 12 SB winners had less than 20 attempts. Len Dawson, Bob Griese (twice), Terry Bradshaw (twice), Kenny Stabler and Roger Staubach.

The 5 who had 20 or more where Bart Starr (twice), Joe Namath, Morrall-Unitas, and Staubach. IMO next to Bart Starr, I have a hard time not putting Bradshaws performances in front of all these QB. His numbers weren't there, but he was responsible for some big plays that played a big part in both of those wins.

 

[packersfan4eva]

namaths win wasnt about his performance but about beating the NFL while being 15 point dogs.

I don't care about Namath's performance. He called--and then completed--probably the biggest upset in NFL history.

It's not all about performance and stats with the top 10 quarterbacks. Namath showed confidence that his team could win, and that radiated to the other players. That guarantee and subsequent victory was a move that only a top 10 quarterback would make. I don't think the Jets could have won that game with any other quarterback.

 

Except Aaron Rodgers :smug:

Besideso, 200 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions isn't that bad.