UFC 153 Main: Anderson Silva vs. Stephan Bonnar

[Warner2BruceTD]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/9/1...t-what-happened-to-ufc-153-need-to-understand

 

[SHOGUN]

Looks like Bonnar finally got the big fight he was looking for.

Card still looks pretty good even without Aldo.

 

[EmpireWF]

This whole situation is a work.

Hendo pulls out, Jones says no to Chael, Dana throws his hands, calls Jones and says "Listen, this card is shot, we're gonna kill it, let's get in a fake PR battle to deflect the attention, we're going to bury you, but in exchange we are giving you and easy fightm and then Anderson Silva and the biggest pay day of your life. We'll find you an easy win, we'll find him an easy 205 win, and then put together the biggest title fight in UFC history. Anderson loves it, what do you think?"

I'm only half kidding. This whole thing smells.

What isn't an easy fight for Jones at this point?

 

[s@ppisgod]

This whole situation is a work.

Hendo pulls out, Jones says no to Chael, Dana throws his hands, calls Jones and says "Listen, this card is shot, we're gonna kill it, let's get in a fake PR battle to deflect the attention, we're going to bury you, but in exchange we are giving you and easy fightm and then Anderson Silva and the biggest pay day of your life. We'll find you an easy win, we'll find him an easy 205 win, and then put together the biggest title fight in UFC history. Anderson loves it, what do you think?"

I'm only half kidding. This whole thing smells.

I do think once they started to see some bad press from the 151 deal, they just went with it. Dana and Co. added fuel to the fire because any publicity is good publicity. Then the story isn't so much the cancellation, as it is the downfall of golden boy Bones, and people wanting to see him get beat. It's not pro wrestling, but they sure do sell it pretty damn similar. All the way down to the guy in charge injecting himself heavily and brashly.

 

[Liquidrob]

Bonnar same thing as Forrest, UFC lifer and will be instructed to "put on a show" with Silva

 

[EmpireWF]

Bonnar same thing as Forrest, UFC lifer and will be instructed to "put on a show" with Silva

Because otherwise, Bonnar is all about lay and pray.

 

[Liquidrob]

Yeah, the bjj black belt, the LHW who will be in the biggest fight in his career will not try and take it to the ground where its his only legit chance to win

"Hey, remember how you and Forrest fought on TUF? Man that was great, wouldn't be awesome if you and Silva had a fight like that?"

 

[s@ppisgod]

Bonnar being heavily influenced to stand and trade with someone? You should post a pic of your tinfoil hat someday, Rob.

 

[EmpireWF]

EXC did it, sounds like a great idea.

 

[Liquidrob]

You guys really don't think this stuff happens? That's what pretty much happened in the TUF final, oh look, they both get contracts!

 

[EmpireWF]

I dont think for one second the UFC has fixed a fight this year.

 

[Liquidrob]

They influence fights all the time with there bonuses and back room pay, plus there cuts

 

[EmpireWF]

They influence fights all the time with there bonuses and back room pay, plus there cuts

Those are two different things, from fixing to giving out fight of the night/KO/sub bonuses.

Are you against the bonuses? Yes, UFC gives random money in the back that nobody knows about. Can't really tell a company not to, though.


Funny though...these fight bonuses didn't help Silva when he was having shitty fights against Leites/Cote/Maia.

 

[Liquidrob]

Promoters sway the fights all the time, tough to get away with out right fixing, but they have there ways, encouraging a guy like Griffin to make it exciting is close if that happened

Shaw paying Seth to stand against Kimbo, that's bad, Ken has used terms like "put people over" for the UFC, the Franklin fight is questionable

Even the TUF final, reality show contestants fighting for contracts on there biggest stage has shady written all over it , and then they both get them? Lol

 

[Liquidrob]

Silva doesn't need fight bonuses, they are used to get the other guys going and swayed to stand and bang

GSP doesn't care either, those guys don't need it

Fighters are out there saying they're fighting for the bonus all the time, UFC is a half a step away from the WWE with the way they're going

 

[Liquidrob]

It could be argues that SOTN and KOTN are glorified bounty programs

Land that extra unnecessary shot get an 75k, snap that arm get some more dollars...

 

[Steel Mamba]

That And1 really steps up when he goes to LHW...

Who do you want him to fight on short notice, and for the sole purpose of beefing up a card?

 

[Liquidrob]

No one, just an observation that he has had one of the most hand picked careers in the UFC

This whole "save the last 2 cards" angle was just another way to get an easy LHW payday fight, if he truely wants to fight at LHW he would fight a top guy like everyone is asking GSP to do, but And1 just gets a pass and picks up easy paydays, kind of funny actually

 

[Liquidrob]

Also wasn't Silva not fighting for the rest of the year and that's why he wasn't going to fight Weidman next?

 

[EmpireWF]

Also wasn't Silva not fighting for the rest of the year and that's why he wasn't going to fight Weidman next?

Yep.

He doesn't want Weidman/Bisping/Boetsch/whoever else, was going to take the rest of the year off and wait for GSP.

Finds an easy pay day to save a card (151, now 153) and will get the monster pay day next year with GSP.