Week 7: (3-2) Chicago @ (4-2) Cincinnatti

[Bear Pand]

Benson is still a pussy and always will be. He was terrible in Chicago and never showed any effort at all. All of a sudden he starts trying? What a prick lol.

It's probably a combination of the Bears not getting the most out of their players, and him not being that mature right out of college. Either way loss is still on the Bears for drafting a player who will always pussy, that high in the draft.

 

[zack54attack]

Benson showed nothing as a Bear. He was lazy, fumbled alot, and ran "Scared". The Bears didnt get rid of him because he wasnt good. He into some off field trouble.


Our O-Line really needs to improve. Cutler cant do anything when he has pass rushers in his face all game.

 

[Bear Pand]

Just cause your o-line sucks doesn't give you a free pass to throw INTs and fumble snaps.

If you don't believe me ask Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Bear Pand]

Oh yeah maybe you should ask Chicago's wide variety of receiving talent!!

Oh wait...

I would ask Hester but I'm not sure he's intelligent enough to answer any question.

 

[zack54attack]

Hes no Jennings, or Driver several other players on GB who can actually catch a ball, unlike many of those douche bags dropping everything and or completely failing on Chicago.

The Bears WR's cant catch? Your joking right.


Have you watched some games? Bennett, Hester and Knox look pretty good.

 

[zack54attack]

Just cause your o-line sucks doesn't give you a free pass to throw INTs and fumble snaps.

If you don't believe me ask Aaron Rodgers.

Low snaps. With constant pressure in your face, your going to make mistakes. Jay doesnt want to be sacked, so hes going to get rid of it.

It's tough when your O-Line puts you into 2nd and 20's or 3rd and 11's.. They False Start and Hold like Mother fuckers.


The Bengals rushed 3-4 guys and STILL got to Cutler more than half the dropbacks.

 

[zack54attack]

I've watched all the games besides the second half of this recent one.

They can't do a lot of things.

LMAO.


They have been pretty productive so far. Better than what a lot of people were saying in the off-season.

 

[zack54attack]

Just cause your o-line sucks doesn't give you a free pass to throw INTs and fumble snaps.

If you don't believe me ask Aaron Rodgers.

Just keep hating on Jay..

You will see the real Kyle Orton soon enough.

 

[Bear Pand]

Just keep hating on Jay..

You will see the real Kyle Orton soon enough.

I hate the Bears not Cutler, I don't care about him either way. Makes 0 difference to me who puts up better numbers between Orton and Cutler. I'm just laughing at all these Bears fans who'll make any excuse to explain why he's fumbling and throwing more INTs than the vast majority of QBs in the NFL.

 

[Rush]

I don't think it's a "real" Kyle Orton will rear his ugly head. I just think he has better talent around him then in Chicago.

No arguing that Royal/Marshall aren't as good as Hester/Knox lol

 

[Goober]

Bear fans are using every excuse in the book to defend Cutler. lol.

 

[Rush]

If you were a Bears fan and witnessed how Orton played for us over 5 years, you would know that a shitty Cutler > Good Orton.

It isn't a fact of saying "hey fuckers, we got the better deal omg omg". Orton was shitty in Chicago lol. You can look at his career record but all of those wins weren't anything special. He has always been a game manager, nothing more.

In Denver he is playing like a real QB and more then a game manager, I"ll give you that.

 

[Bear Pand]

If you were a Bears fan and witnessed how Orton played for us over 5 years, you would know that a shitty Cutler > Good Orton.

It isn't a fact of saying "hey fuckers, we got the better deal omg omg". Orton was shitty in Chicago lol. You can look at his career record but all of those wins weren't anything special. He has always been a game manager, nothing more.

In Denver he is playing like a real QB and more then a game manager, I"ll give you that.

Ron Turner + Gunslinging QB = Disaster waiting to happen

 

[Rush]

As a franchise QB Cutler can stay....pretty sure we don't have a franchise OC n Turner. Hopefully he gets cut.

Same dumbass who let Grossman throw 40+ times in the Super Bowl in the pouring rain. Same guy who gave Forte 6 carries today.

 

[Bear Pand]

I've had to listen to that garbage the last few years in Denver, how "Cutler doesn't have a defense, Cutler doesn't have a franchise RB, Cutler doesn't have this, Cutler doesn't have that..."

..now I'm hearing it in Chicago. And going into Cincinatti the Bears had the 13th ranked defense and were still only 3-2 with Jay "all world" Cutler.

Now it's "Cutler doesn't have an oline", or "Cutler doesn't have Pro Bowl WR's", the excuses keep piling up for Cutler.

The fact is, Cutler is a good to very good Qb. He isn't a "great" QB. I also love how Bear fans are saying, "he'll mature and quit making bad decisions". That's like saying Orton will mature and start being more explosive.

The great throws he makes will always be offset by the terrible decisions he makes. He still can't read defenses, and he still can't go through his progressions. He still can't protect the ball.

I feel sorry for Jay Cutler. He could be a great QB in the right situation. Considering Chicago doesn't have a clue about offense, he isn't getting that situation there.

Jay Cutler is the current version of Jeff George. All world talent, ten cent decision making ability.

Kyle Orton just might come back to earth soon enough. But at least Denver didn't mortgage their immediate future for a QB that doesn't understand how to lead his team to wins, especially when it matters most.

And why hasn't Denver extended Orton? Because they aren't stupid. Unlike Chicago, they understand it takes more than 6 games to make a long term decision about a player.

good post.

Bears aren't doing shit this year. Third best team in their division and the NFC north might not even have 2 playoff teams. Better hope for the worst so Lovie and/or Turner get shown the door. Maybe Angelo too. Bears got one of the worst track records in the league in terms of developing QBs.

 

[USCChifan]

Jay Cutler doesn't get good protection at all. The Bengals were easily getting pressure w/ their 4 man rush, and against the Falcons got pressure on a 3 man rush on the Bears final drive, which is pathetic. Orlando Pace has played adequately, but Robert Geathers was beating him almost every play. Frank Omiyale is a revolving door at LG who can't run block at all. Olin Kreutz has been awful this season, and is a huge reason why Jay has 7 fumbles on the year. Kreutz has also been getting dominating at the Point of Attack and Nose Tackles are just harassing him.

Chris Williams is playing out of position at RT and he's done alright. He's a poor run blocker, and you need your RT to be a nasty run-blocker w/ a mean streak. Chris doesn't have that. As for Roberto Garza, he's unfortunately the only player on the O-Line that's playing well, which is saying a lot.

The defense was just awful. Words can not describe how bad the run defense and coverage was. Carson was never touched and he picked apart Lovie's Cover 2 defense. It's abundantly clear that the Bears miss Brian Urlacher and Pisa. As for Jay, he hasn't played up to expectations. He's been making bad decisions and when he gets frustrated like he did against the Bengals, he will force throws that can or will get picked off. But without a running game, teams know that the Bears will be throwing most of the time. And lastly, why are people complaining about Forte's 6 carries? Are they supposed to run the ball when they're 31 points down?

You can call these "excuses", but facts are facts. I'm not saying that Jay has been playing as well as he should be, but you can't ignore the porous O-Line which is causing Jay and the running to suffer immensely.

 

[zack54attack]

Jay Cutler doesn't get good protection at all. The Bengals were easily getting pressure w/ their 4 man rush, and against the Falcons got pressure on a 3 man rush on the Bears final drive, which is pathetic. Orlando Pace has played adequately, but Robert Geathers was beating him almost every play. Frank Omiyale is a revolving door at LG who can't run block at all. Olin Kreutz has been awful this season, and is a huge reason why Jay has 7 fumbles on the year. Kreutz has also been getting dominating at the Point of Attack and Nose Tackles are just harassing him.

Chris Williams is playing out of position at RT and he's done alright. He's a poor run blocker, and you need your RT to be a nasty run-blocker w/ a mean streak. Chris doesn't have that. As for Roberto Garza, he's unfortunately the only player on the O-Line that's playing well, which is saying a lot.

The defense was just awful. Words can not describe how bad the run defense and coverage was. Carson was never touched and he picked apart Lovie's Cover 2 defense. It's abundantly clear that the Bears miss Brian Urlacher and Pisa. As for Jay, he hasn't played up to expectations. He's been making bad decisions and when he gets frustrated like he did against the Bengals, he will force throws that can or will get picked off. But without a running game, teams know that the Bears will be throwing most of the time. And lastly, why are people complaining about Forte's 6 carries? Are they supposed to run the ball when they're 31 points down?

You can call these "excuses", but facts are facts. I'm not saying that Jay has been playing as well as he should be, but you can't ignore the porous O-Line which is causing Jay and the running to suffer immensely.

This is true.

Our offensive line is horrible. Putting us into long yardage situations because of holding and false starts.

Look at this stat: Last year With Denver Jay Cutler was sacked 1 of 57 dropbacks.
In Chicago Cutler was sacked 1 of 17 dropbacks.


Thats HORRIBLE. You can say these are excuses, but that stat is the truth. Along with watching our oline play, you will see how bad they are.

 

[RainboUnicorn]

It is horrible, you're right. The oline in Chicago is failing miserably.

But I think what some Bear fans don't understand, is Cutler made terrible decisions, forced throws, and turned the ball over significantly when he was playing behind that excellent oline in Denver that had him sacked in 1 out of 57 dropbacks.

Cutler has an explosive arm, and he can undoubtedly make plays down the field. He's also going to make terrible decisions, and turn the ball over reguardless of how his oline is playing.

It's a give and take with him. He relies on his explosive arm. Sometimes it's a great throw, other times it's a terrible decision.

Being pressured on every throw and sacked 1 out of every 17 dropbacks forces Cutler to rush his decision making process and brings out more bad decisions.

 

[zack54attack]

It is horrible, you're right. The oline in Chicago is failing miserably.

But I think what some Bear fans don't understand, is Cutler made terrible decisions, forced throws, and turned the ball over significantly when he was playing behind that excellent oline in Denver that had him sacked in 1 out of 57 dropbacks.

Cutler has an explosive arm, and he can undoubtedly make plays down the field. He's also going to make terrible decisions, and turn the ball over reguardless of how his oline is playing.

It's a give and take with him. He relies on his explosive arm. Sometimes it's a great throw, other times it's a terrible decision.

I can agree somewhat. The guy has a arm, he's trying to make plays. The Oline doing their job cant be all on his fault..

BUT

I do see what your saying. Yes, he does make stupid mistakes. Like yesterday, overthrowing Olson who was wide open.

 

[Bear Pand]

Being pressured on every throw and sacked 1 out of every 17 dropbacks forces Cutler to rush his decision making process and brings out more bad decisions.

Rodgers has been sacked 25 and has thrown the ball 184 times. So he's being sacked at a higher rate than Cutler and doesn't make nearly the amount of bad decisions. Again just because you're pressured or get sacked doesn't mean you get a free pass to make bad throws.

It's part Cutler part Turner being a bad play caller. Pass the ball to Forte or somethin.

And the o-line does suck, and the wrs aren't that good. That's why it's so funny watching Chicago trade away a ton of draft picks, make bad FA signings and keep bad coaches.