[Week 8] Green Bay (4-3) @ New York Jets (5-1)

[EmpireWF]

Well I guess the Jets answered this question for me today..

lol everything went wrong for them today

Sanchez threw shit in the first half

The receivers made almost no plays

The Punter fucked up

The kicker fucked up

Rex fucked up

After all that, all they gave up was 9 points.

Definitely a lot to work on though.

Packers defense was nice too.

 

[Colonel Angus]

The one thing really holding the Jets back is Sanchez. People complain about Rodgers not winning games for his team - Sanchez has looked like a game manager at QB and nothing more. I would say that both his INT's were probably not his fault, but some throws and decisions he made were pretty bad.

Good win for the Packers. They did exactly the right thing on defense and made Sanchez have to win the game for the Jets. I'm just pretty shocked they were actually able to shut down LT and company. And the offense did just enough.

(Plus Masthay)

 

[AJay]

The one thing really holding the Jets back is Sanchez. People complain about Rodgers not winning games for his team - Sanchez has looked like a game manager at QB and nothing more. I would say that both his INT's were probably not his fault, but some throws and decisions he made were pretty bad.

Good win for the Packers. They did exactly the right thing on defense and made Sanchez have to win the game for the Jets. I'm just pretty shocked they were actually able to shut down LT and company. And the offense did just enough.

(Plus Masthay)

What other Jet games have you watched this year? Just wondering because to me it seems like you're just going with all the other Sanchez haters say. I admit at some times the Mexican pisses me off but really he's not bad. The wide recievers and Schottys dumbass play-calling hurt us today.

 

[Houston]

Packers win

Nice call brah

 

[Colonel Angus]

What other Jet games have you watched this year? Just wondering because to me it seems like you're just going with all the other Sanchez haters say. I admit at some times the Mexican pisses me off but really he's not bad. The wide recievers and Schottys dumbass play-calling hurt us today.

Vikings game and the Ravens game. He looked the same in all 3 games I watched. He messed up bad at the end of the Vikings game mismanaging time and he could have costed them the game. The defense saved his ass.

 

[Houston]

Whenever the Jets lose people quickly scramble and act like the team is falling apart. Maybe Sanchez had a bad game, maybe he is holding them back....they've only lost 2 close games, there fine right now.

 

[Primetime]

Packers won this game, Jets didn't lose it. Sanchez's picks were not horrible throws. The Packers just took those INT's from the receivers. Great defensive scheme from Capers today and a well deserved win.

 

[MrBill]

Packers won this game, Jets didn't lose it. Sanchez's picks were not horrible throws. The Packers just took those INT's from the receivers. Great defensive scheme from Capers today and a well deserved win.

I have to agree. Anytime your defense can pitch a road shutout, you won the game with no excuses. If the Packers defense had been anywhere near healthy, this would have been a major accomplishment considering the strength of the Jets offense. With the reality of just how banged up they were, Capers might have pulled off the defensive coordinator game plan of the year.

 

[jms493]

I still stand that the NY Media overhypes this team.....they are overrated. The offensive play calling and that fucking fake punt call was moronic!

Give me 1 good reason to fake it there??? They are in their own territory. Even if they make it they need to drive the field to even get into FG range. The risk vs reward is too high.

 

[AJay]

Vikings game and the Ravens game. He looked the same in all 3 games I watched. He messed up bad at the end of the Vikings game mismanaging time and he could have costed them the game. The defense saved his ass.

Vikings game on Monday night was a monsoon man, horrible weather. But he still played alright. At one point late in the game he led the team right into Viking territory and the Jets wound up scoring a td.

Yes he mismanaged the time once, and as a QB that should be on him but if you listened to the press conference Rex Ryan said that one was on himself. Even though Mark should have realized the clock also. I agree there. He is in his second year as a starter with only 16 college starts, gotta take the good with the bad as he progresses.

Ravens game was just a complete utter mess. Schotty has everything and anything wrong to do with the way the offense played that game. It was horrible.

I figured you didn't watch the Pats and Phins games this year or you would realize he isn't just a game manager. Kid was fantastic in those games. The recievers had 7 drops yesterday.

 

[AJay]

I still stand that the NY Media overhypes this team.....they are overrated. The offensive play calling and that fucking fake punt call was moronic!

Give me 1 good reason to fake it there??? They are in their own territory. Even if they make it they need to drive the field to even get into FG range. The risk vs reward is too high.

Offensive play-calling is horrible. Schotty sucks and most everyone agrees. When he keeps it simple and stays on the run game and lets Mark do his thing we win. When he tries to get cute like yesterday and run the double end arounds and keeps the rushing attempts to a minimum we look horrible on offense just like in the Ravens game and just like yesterday.

You can't be too upset with the fake punt. That was the punters call, he called that one. He was a yard short and it sure has hell didn't lose us the game.

 

[Buzzman]

Jets might be on a 2 game losing streak. Detroit is the best home team in the NFL.

 

[Colonel Angus]

Offensive play-calling is horrible. Schotty sucks and most everyone agrees. When he keeps it simple and stays on the run game and lets Mark do his thing we win. When he tries to get cute like yesterday and run the double end arounds and keeps the rushing attempts to a minimum we look horrible on offense just like in the Ravens game and just like yesterday.

You can't be too upset with the fake punt. That was the punters call, he called that one. He was a yard short and it sure has hell didn't lose us the game.

The Packers sold out to stop the run and did just that, putting it on Mark Sanchez to beat them. He couldn't do it, plain and simple, against a patch-work Packers defense that had guys starting that weren't even on the roster in week one.

Stop making excuses for Sanchez. He's just not a good quarterback (yet).

 

[Spidey]

In defense of Sanchez, neither of the INTs should have been INTs. The first was clearly both coming down fighting for the ball. In the event of a tie, that should have been awarded to the Jets WR. Bad call by the ref that it turns out was irreversible by rule with review. The second INT was even worse as the TE clearly caught the ball and was down well before Woodson reached in and ripped the ball away. A god awful call by the refs and because the Jets were out of challenges, it stood.

Look, as a Packers fan, I'm happy those calls went our way. But lets not sit here and act like Sanchez fucked up the game by throwing 2 bad interceptions. Be realistic. Both should have been caught by the receiver and the Packers lucked out with bad calls by the refs.

I though Sanchez played fine overall. If anything, I would say his receivers really let him down.

 

[bucky]

In defense of Sanchez, neither of the INTs should have been INTs. The first was clearly both coming down fighting for the

The announcers in the booth had a Ref via Satellite explain why this was false. By rule the first was a legit int. I would have called the same as you Spidey until the guest ref explained why it should be called an int.

 

[Spidey]

The announcers in the booth had a Ref via Satellite explain why this was false. By rule the first was a legit int. I would have called the same as you Spidey until the guest ref explained why it should be called an int.

I was watching that as well. It was Mike Pereira, who frequently helps explain challenge situations for FOX.

As I recall he did not say it was a legit INT. He just explained that who wound up with the ball could not be challenge by rule. The only thing that could be challenge was whether or not the WR was down. If Pereira was correct, I am not sure if Ryan was informed of this cause I would assume he wouldn't have wasted the challenge. But he did.

Doesn't excuse the fact that the ref blew the call that a tie goes to the WR and the Jets should have gotten the ball. Green Bay lucked out in that who came up with it could not be challenged.

I may have missed something of course. But thats how I interpreted the situation and what Pereira said.

EDIT: Found a link with Pereira explaining the call and challenge.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jets-Packers-interception-williams-cotchery-favre-chin-jaw-103110

1. Green Bay at New York Jets

THE SITUATION: The Jets had the ball third-and-11 at the Packers 43-yard line at 4:48 of the second quarter.

THE PLAY: Mark Sanchez's pass intended for Jerricho Cotchery was intercepted by Tramon Williams at the Green Bay 40. The Jets challenged that the runner was down-by-contact ruling and the play was upheld.

MY TAKE: This was a very interesting play. The only thing that was reviewable in this play was whether the pass was complete or incomplete.

The ruling on the field was that the receiver and the defender had joint possession of the ball and the defender pulled the ball away from the receiver after hitting the ground. Who actually catches or intercepts the pass is not reviewable in replay.

The only chance the Jets had was that, somehow, the ball had hit the ground which would make the pass incomplete. If I were on the field, I'm not really sure I would have let the Jets challenge this play. It left the Jets with no challenges remaining the rest of the game. Since the aspect of who is determined to catch or intercept the pass is not reviewable, they really they had no chance of getting it reversed.

As he says, "The ruling on the field was that the receiver and the defender had joint possession of the ball and the defender pulled the ball away from the receiver after hitting the ground." That right there shows that this should have been ruled a catch for the WR. And as he goes on to explain, whether the ball was intercepted was not reviewable.

 

[bucky]

As he says, "The ruling on the field was that the receiver and the defender had joint possession of the ball and the defender pulled the ball away from the receiver after hitting the ground." That right there shows that this should have been ruled a catch for the WR. And as he goes on to explain, whether the ball was intercepted was not reviewable.

The receiver didn't have possession, it was joint, and the process of the catch was not finished.

 

[Primetime]

The receiver didn't have possession, it was joint, and the process of the catch was not finished.

I agree with what you said from my own personal stand point, but the rule states if both players are fighting for the ball and it goes to the ground, the possession goes to the receiver.

 

[bucky]

I agree with what you said from my own personal stand point, but the rule states if both players are fighting for the ball and it goes to the ground, the possession goes to the receiver.

I suppose the ref determined he didn't finish the process of the catch since the DB took the ball away. I would agree with you if the WR and DB had joint possession, and established that possession, and the whistle blew, then I'd agree with ya. But after seeing what does and does not constitute a catch this year, the receiver has to finish the process. In the case of Williams, he did finish the process and the WR did not.

And, go look at the Minny Newspaper blogs this morning. Comedy Gold. And I thought JS Online Packer blogs got retarded at times.

 

[Colonel Angus]

And, go look at the Minny Newspaper blogs this morning. Comedy Gold. And I thought JS Online Packer blogs got retarded at times.

YES! As of last night there were 1700 comments on the Moss waived article. Most of them started with "I'm done". Some of them even go as far as to say they are done being a fan of the team.

Clear proof that Vikings fans are about as fair-weather as they come. Scum.