Whos your Heisman?

[Woy]

Unfortunately, the Heisman goes to the best player, on the best team. Despite Gerhardt's unexpected success and great season. Stanford still finished tied for second in the Pac-10. Had they won the Pac-10? He'd have a little more backing from the voters.

However, Ingram shined against the number one defense in the land, on the biggest stage the SEC (arguably the toughest conference) can provide. His team is also the number one team in the land, and that holds a lot of weight when talking about Heisman honors. The only thing that's going to screw this up for him is if the voters give it to Tesus for his "leadership".

While everyone wants to root for the underdog, that's often not the case. Ingram will walk home as Alabama's first Heisman winner.

Tebow won it in 2007 on a 9-4 Florida team. Not necessarily the best team.

 

[padman59]

Tebow won it in 2007 on a 9-4 Florida team. Not necessarily the best team.

Let's be honest here. Tebow in '07 is an aberration compared to the results of the last decade or so.

Also,

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Shq4-9Xn5M"]YouTube- Golden Tate: Every Touchdown in 2009 - Highlights[/ame]

 

[FirstTimer]

Let's be honest here. Tebow in '07 is an aberration compared to the results of the last decade or so.

Also,

YouTube- Golden Tate: Every Touchdown in 2009 - Highlights

Agreed. And call me a homer but you would have a hell of a time proving to me Tate wasn't the best player in the nation this year. Honestly my finalists for the Heisman would be(in no particular order)

Tate
Suh
Ingram
Gerhardt

 

[Vinsane]

Tebow won it in 2007 on a 9-4 Florida team. Not necessarily the best team.

He finished the regular season as the only player in FBS history to rush and pass for at least 20 touchdowns in both categories in the same season. He had 32 passing touchdowns, and 23 rushing touchdowns. Tebow's rushing TD total in the 2007 season is the most recorded for any position in SEC history. The total also set the record for most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback in FBS history.

Yeah, you're not going to be rewarded for shattering records?

 

[Woy]

Yeah, you're not going to be rewarded for shattering records?

So why didn't Colt Brennan get it then?

I get what you're saying, but I don't like how it necessarily goes to the "best player" on the best team. Hell, Ingram might not even be the best runningback on his own team.

 

[Vinsane]

So why didn't Colt Brennan get it then?

I get what you're saying, but I don't like how it necessarily goes to the "best player" on the best team. Hell, Ingram might not even be the best runningback on his own team.

More then likely, because Hawaii is not in a BCS conference. Therefore it belittled what he was doing as it was not against top talent. I'm with you that Brennan as well as other finalist have been screwed by the system.

However, I don't see how you reward Gerhardt who performed well on a mediocre Stanford team, or Suh who isn't even a leader in any of the defensive categories. If you compare the two (Gerhardt and Ingram).

Gerhardt - 311 att, 1736 yards, 26 tds, 10 rec, 149, 0 tds
Ingram - 249 att, 1542 yards, 15 tds, 30 rec, 322 yards, 3 tds

They're really pretty squared up, Ingram only trails in yardage by 194 yards, on 62 less carries. Let's play hypothetical ball here, and say that we beefed up Ingram's stats to be even. Taking the carries difference and multiplying by his average carry (6.2 yards) he would beat Gerhardt by almost the same margin he trails (190.4).

It's David versus Goliath and I'm afraid that Goliath is going to win, and Alabama is going to have to wait for another Heisman candidate to name their first, winner.

 

[Senser81]

Its funny to me that Kellen Moore is the QB of an undefeated BCS team, has 39 TDs and only 3 INTs, and he hasn't gotten an iota of publicity for the Heisman.

 

[Woy]

Obviously you can make a case for both candidates. I consider the Heisman though to be like a MVP award (although it isn't really like that). If you take Gerhart off of Stanford, what do they do? If you take Ingram off of Alabama, what do they do?

Both are equally deserving IMO. Maybe it's just my hatred for Alabama that makes me want to see Gerhart win it.

 

[Vinsane]

Its funny to me that Kellen Moore is the QB of an undefeated BCS team, has 39 TDs and only 3 INTs, and he hasn't gotten an iota of publicity for the Heisman.

I admit I overlooked him.