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Why is Mike Goldberg a commentator?
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Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
You serious bout Bas W2B? His out there remarks are perfect for the booth, pair him up with someone constantly trying to bring the knowledge (Quadros) and it works perfectly.
As for Goldy.. yeah the guy is a robot but I think its been said by Rogan himself that Goldy dums himself down a bit to help play off Rogan and let Rogan explain certain things. Could just be a crock but Rogan's usually a pretty honest guy. I really do think Goldberg knows more then what he gives out in the booth, thats just his roll. Hes a good company man.. he turned down A LOT of money from the WWE to stay with the UFC because they wanted him to leave them out to dry for a PPV event and Goldberg refused.
Oh and Gus Johnson is fucking TERRIBLE at doing MMA.. its quite embarrassing. The fact that they even get him for SHOWTIME shows is brutal.
As for Goldy.. yeah the guy is a robot but I think its been said by Rogan himself that Goldy dums himself down a bit to help play off Rogan and let Rogan explain certain things. Could just be a crock but Rogan's usually a pretty honest guy. I really do think Goldberg knows more then what he gives out in the booth, thats just his roll. Hes a good company man.. he turned down A LOT of money from the WWE to stay with the UFC because they wanted him to leave them out to dry for a PPV event and Goldberg refused.
Oh and Gus Johnson is fucking TERRIBLE at doing MMA.. its quite embarrassing. The fact that they even get him for SHOWTIME shows is brutal.
Thats just Rogan trying to help out his boy
How smart could you be with an Octogon tattoo on your back?
Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
Dont hate the man cause he JUST BLEEDS.
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Rob,
Quit hating on Goldy. You wouldn't know what you're watching if Goldy didn't do the PbP...I mean, would you ever know who this lovely young lady is?
Or even when the fight is over?
I surely wouldn't, so obviously, you wouldn't either.
Anthony
In Brendan we trust.
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
When has the fact that Rogan has never fought professionally caused him to be a damned fool on the mic?
Doesnt matter, a color guy IMO should have fight experience, coaching experience, etc...and yes Rogan has been a fool a lot of times on the mic
Joe has none of that, he did compete in TKD back in the day, but that means little in MMA, he has trained bjj for many years but so have a lot of people, do you want them breaking down fights for you? I don't think even has done bjj tourneys
Anyone who has taken bjj or grappling can do the same job as Rogan, he just has a better personality, you watch a fight with me and you would get the same thing but probably a better breakdown and what a fighter would do next
I made a thread about this before, but of course no one agreed with me, oh well
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
Rogan is the best color man in the biz these days (Bas may be up there, but he doesn't do enough these days...not counting the HD show).
The fact that he has not competed means nothing to me.
It's not as if during Silva/Sonnen, anyone was sitting there thinking....fuck that joe rogan, he knows nothing.
I'll admit sometimes Goldy can be a bit of a blowhard formulaic guy, but Rogan is good.
The fact that he has not competed means nothing to me.
It's not as if during Silva/Sonnen, anyone was sitting there thinking....fuck that joe rogan, he knows nothing.
I'll admit sometimes Goldy can be a bit of a blowhard formulaic guy, but Rogan is good.
I never said Joe Rogan wasnt good, he just isnt as credible as the fighters, he just isnt, is he more entertaining? Of course, he is an entertainer, thats not my point
Also, Joe's comments on the striking aspect of MMA are not very good, plus his overall knowledge on the wrestling/takedown/clinch game is lacking, he knows his BJJ though
Also, Joe's comments on the striking aspect of MMA are not very good, plus his overall knowledge on the wrestling/takedown/clinch game is lacking, he knows his BJJ though
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
I'd say that's an obvious fact...but so?
I'd rather have Rogan as my #1 PBP guy instead of Shamrock or Miletich.
And I do like Miletich, despite his dry nature, he's always clear and concise with his thoughts. Shamrock has a great TV personality, but when he Mauro and Gus go to him for input on what's going on, there's something missing. Maybe it's the 3 man booth b/c Shamrock seems like he shouts...as does Mauro (even when there's nothing major happening).
I would rather have Pat, I wont comment on Frank because I'm to close to it, plus I have heard Frank talk enough over the years, lol, Randy also is better than Joe
Just think of it like this, Adam Sandler loves Basketball, he plays a lot, maybe played in high School, I don't know, do I want Hubie Brown or Adam Sandler in the booth?
If Dennis Miller 'practiced' football for years, would I want him in there instead of Ron Jaworski?
They are both more entertaining but its the color spot, not evening at the improv
Like W2B said, Rogan is there for the demo, but I don't care about that, I want a guy that knows more than me (hard to find I know), but I want guys who were in there and can get inside the head and breakdown what is going for the fans and have experience to pull from
Just think of it like this, Adam Sandler loves Basketball, he plays a lot, maybe played in high School, I don't know, do I want Hubie Brown or Adam Sandler in the booth?
If Dennis Miller 'practiced' football for years, would I want him in there instead of Ron Jaworski?
They are both more entertaining but its the color spot, not evening at the improv
Like W2B said, Rogan is there for the demo, but I don't care about that, I want a guy that knows more than me (hard to find I know), but I want guys who were in there and can get inside the head and breakdown what is going for the fans and have experience to pull from
EmpireWF
Giants in the Super Bowl
I don't think Rogan is necessarily there only for the demo. He knows his shit, obviously he may not know as much about the clinch, muay thai or boxing, but he's no joke either.
I always wonder how other commentators would do if they had the great production values the UFC has. Say what you want, but they do that right.
I always wonder how other commentators would do if they had the great production values the UFC has. Say what you want, but they do that right.
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Rob,
Again you guys miss my point about Rogan, I think he is good, he is a quality fan of the sport, but if Joe Rogan is the color analyst than its not enough, there should be a 3rd guy in the booth who knows the entire game and has lived it
I don't even like 3 man booths, but Rogan isnt enough IMO for that spot
I don't even like 3 man booths, but Rogan isnt enough IMO for that spot
how could you not? Goldie is terrible and Joe doesnt have the same amount of knowledge as other analyst's
To say Joe Rogan knows more about MMA than Pat, Frank, Bas, Randy, Mir, Pulver, etc...is crazy
just because you find them entertaining doesnt mean they're not lacking
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Rob,
I think you focus too much on the experience and not enough on the presentation. During a fight, Joe's color delivers the same exact information that the former and current fighters do and in a much better package.
Before and after fight analysis...I'll give you that. I like hearing what these guys have to say, but during a fight...Joe > them, and he gives you every bit of information they do. I don't even think its close, really in regards to who is better all around.
I feel the same way about other professional sports. There are very few former pros and athletes that are worth a dime as color guys. Yet, every both has them, as they give a broadcast "credibility"...I don't think they do, I think they take away from a broadcast with their terrible speaking skills and lack of presentation skills. Before-and-after games/fights...I like and appreciate the analysis...during...leave it to those who can broadcast a better product.
I think you focus too much on the experience and not enough on the presentation. During a fight, Joe's color delivers the same exact information that the former and current fighters do and in a much better package.
Before and after fight analysis...I'll give you that. I like hearing what these guys have to say, but during a fight...Joe > them, and he gives you every bit of information they do. I don't even think its close, really in regards to who is better all around.
I feel the same way about other professional sports. There are very few former pros and athletes that are worth a dime as color guys. Yet, every both has them, as they give a broadcast "credibility"...I don't think they do, I think they take away from a broadcast with their terrible speaking skills and lack of presentation skills. Before-and-after games/fights...I like and appreciate the analysis...during...leave it to those who can broadcast a better product.
Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
There isnt many points during ANY UFC event where I say to myself "Damn.. I would really rather hear what a real fighter has to say then what Rogan is saying". It does happen.. bcus sometimes Rogan gets on his bias tip.. but other then that, Rogan does a great job of presenting the information he does know, especially to help casual fans understand whats happening in the fight. It would be nice to have a guy like Randy or Florian in the booth now-and-then tho.. especially during big fights. I used to enjoy when Randy would do the main events with Rogan and Goldy..and have no problem with a 3-man booth.
