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Winston declaring for the NFL Draft

The Redskins might get lucky and not have to trade up for him

edit: I did not know he was drafted by the Texas Rangers out of high school


http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2015/st...florida-state-seminoles-nfl-draft-father-says

Quarterback Jameis Winston won't be back in a Florida State uniform next season, instead opting to enter the NFL draft.

Winston confirmed the decision in a statement issued late Wednesday morning by The Legacy Agency, which will represent him. Winston's father, Antonor Winston, had told ESPN earlier Wednesday that his son had decided to enter the draft after initially planning to announce the decision after Monday's College Football Playoff National Championship presented by AT&T.

More from ESPN.com

Jameis Winston's decision to enter the NFL draft is good news for the Titans, regardless of how they feel about the Florida State quarterback. Story

"After weighing this decision with my family and friends, I have decided to declare for the 2015 NFL Draft and forgo my remaining eligibility at Florida State," Winston said in the statement. "I reached this very difficult decision after careful consideration and long thought, realizing how difficult it would be to say goodbye to my family at Florida State. I am eternally grateful for the opportunity to wear the garnet and gold and have greatly enjoyed my time as a Seminole, both as an athlete and a student in the classroom."

Antonor Winston said his son received a first-round grade from the NFL draft advisory committee.

ESPN NFL Draft Insider Mel Kiper Jr. has Winston rated as the second-best quarterback behind 2014 Heisman Trophy winner Marcus Mariota and the sixth player overall on his latest Big Board. Kiper thinks that Winston has special pocket instincts and the necessary vision, size, arm strength and athleticism to make it in the NFL.

In a conference call with reporters Tuesday, ESPN's Todd McShay said he believes that Winston is a better pro prospect than Mariota.

"[Florida State quarterback] Jameis Winston, to me, is the better prospect," McShay said. "Marcus Mariota is still a very good prospect but needs developing. They both have a chance to be great. But they both come with red flags. Winston's red flags are off the field."

Winston wrapped up his redshirt sophomore season with a loss to Oregon in the Rose Bowl Game presented by Northwestern Mutual. He was 26-1 as a starter and led Florida State to the national championship last season.

Trophy Winners?

There are five active Heisman Trophy-winning QBs in the NFL, and none has a record above .500. The group also had zero playoff wins until Cam Newton and the Panthers won last Saturday:
Reg. Season W-L Playoff Wins
Johnny Manziel 0-2 0
Robert Griffin III 14-21 0
Cam Newton 30-31-1 1
Sam Bradford 18-30-1 0
Carson Palmer 70-73 0
TOTAL 132-157-2 (.457)
-- ESPN Stats & Information

While off-the-field incidents swirled throughout much of his time at FSU, Winston's numbers were among the best in college football when he was on the field. Winston ranks fourth in touchdown passes (65), fourth in passing yards (7,964) and second in passes of 20 yards or more (124) since the start of the 2013 season.

Winston's statistics fell off this season as he threw for 3,907 yards, 25 touchdowns and had 18 interceptions. He also rushed for 65 yards and three TDs.

"I will always take pride in leading our team back to national prominence and am confident that my returning teammates will continue the success for many years to come," said Winston, who thanked Seminoles fans, teammates and the entire coaching staff in the statement.

The biggest knocks on Winston remain his off-the-field scandals, which included a rape allegation for which he was not charged. In December 2014, Florida State held an internal student code of conduct hearing regarding those allegations in which an independent arbiter ruled that there was not enough evidence to find Winston guilty. Winston also served a one-game suspension earlier this season for yelling a vulgar phrase in an on-campus dining area.

McShay on Tuesday acknowledged that Winston's off-the-field trouble might scare away some NFL teams.

"The cons about Jameis Winston are, what are you getting with maturity and with the individual off the field? Can he stay out of trouble? And can he handle himself in a manner where you feel comfortable giving him $25 million or $30 million and tagging him from day one as the face of your franchise? It's hard, man. I don't know the answer right now," he said.

Winston could become the third Florida State quarterback selected in the first round in the past five years, joining Christian Ponder in 2011 and EJ Manuel in '13. According to ESPN Stats & Information, it would be the first time in the common draft era (since 1967) that three quarterbacks from the same school were picked in the first round in a five-year span.

"As I embark on the next challenge of playing in the NFL, I look forward to contributing to a long line of successful alumni at the next level," he said in the statement. "I want you all to know that I will make Seminole Nation proud and continue to bring the passion and love for the game you all have seen in Doak Campbell since my first day as a 'Nole. Thank you for making my time in Tallahassee the of the best years of my life."

Winston's father said initial plans to delay an announcement were scuttled by extensive media attention and that after Jameis Winston prayed on the decision Tuesday night, he felt comfortable with his plan to leave for the NFL.
 
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I love football but if I had the skills to play both, I would have to think heavily about going to the MLB. The money is better on average than the NFL and your career can go over a decade with no problems.
 
If he is good enough to make to the MLB sure. It would suck to get stuck in the farm system forever. Can't get a Bentley on 40k a year.
 
won a championship, a heisman, and only lost one game in the inagural college football playoff his entire career on his way to becoming a top 5 pick

u dumb bro

If he could have the same success in baseball he would make more money in the longrun and probably have a healthier life post-sports.

Its been proven time and time again that College football success doesn't always translate to NFL success.
 
won a championship, a heisman, and only lost one game in the inagural college football playoff his entire career on his way to becoming a top 5 pick

u dumb bro

so you think he gonna make more in the NFL as bigtime player?? MLB has less injuries with more $$$
thats not dumb - thats thinking about successful life and career, instead of living in the moment.
 
he is not clayton kershaw

maybe not but we know his chances of being a great (gamebreaker) QB in the NFL is much slimmer.
and that all depends what teams he does get picked by.

if they a rebuilding team, then:
:lol4:

and
NO way is he a "NFL Playoff Ready QB".....
 
Things still probably don't look too shabby for him because there are more than a handful of teams that need a QB. If they pass up on Winston, they still need a QB.

So do you stick with your average/below average QB you have now, or take a chance on Winston and see how he works out? I think he has a better NFL skillset than RGIII :dunno:
 
When I saw this vine that night, I knew it was over.

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Things still probably don't look too shabby for him because there are more than a handful of teams that need a QB. If they pass up on Winston, they still need a QB.

So do you stick with your average/below average QB you have now, or take a chance on Winston and see how he works out? I think he has a better NFL skillset than RGIII :dunno:

RGIII came into the NFL and got himself rookie of the year, Redskins to playoffs and the "face for all DC".
Winston has a "baggage".....but he so much more to prove since the NFL expects much more now.
 
maybe not but we know his chances of being a great (gamebreaker) QB in the NFL is much slimmer.
and that all depends what teams he does get picked by.

if they a rebuilding team, then:
:lol4:

and
NO way is he a "NFL Playoff Ready QB".....

There's no guarantee he would even make it to the majors. His multimillion dollar contract is a guarantee in the NFL.

It is insanely hard to make it as a legit MLB pitcher. It's not like this decision is as simple as "Would you rather be a great MLB pitcher or a great NFL qb." There's a chance he never even becomes a MLB pitcher. There is a 100% chance he is a NFL qb.
 
There's no guarantee he would even make it to the majors. His multimillion dollar contract is a guarantee in the NFL.

It is insanely hard to make it as a legit MLB pitcher. It's not like this decision is as simple as "Would you rather be a great MLB pitcher or a great NFL qb." There's a chance he never even becomes a MLB pitcher. There is a 100% chance he is a NFL qb.

there isnt any guarantees for anything in life - agree.

and the chance of him being a decent MLB pitcher is better than him being a decent QB in the NFL.
the fact that he could have been drafted after high school means plenty.
also;
he is leaving college early to take a chance as a QB in the NFL, instead of finishing his education like most intelligent professionals.

he will get drafted into the NFL as a QB but thats about it...........drafted onto a team
 
there isnt any guarantees for anything in life - agree.

and the chance of him being a decent MLB pitcher is better than him being a decent QB in the NFL.
the fact that he could have been drafted after high school means plenty.
also;
he is leaving college early to take a chance as a QB in the NFL, instead of finishing his education like most intelligent professionals.

he will get drafted into the NFL as a QB but thats about it...........drafted onto a team

Drafted to a team and making millions of dollar from day one in the NFL. That's not happening in the MLB from day one. Especially getting drafted in the 15th rd. As far as you (bold) comment, how do you know that? You are making it seem like you know how his future will unfold already. Players leave for the NFL early every year so saying "instead of finishing his education like most intelligent professionals." doesn't make sense at all. Plenty of guys have left early and went back to school later. The difference is, a lot of them didn't have the chance of being the top pick in the draft.
 
Good god this thread is full of some of the most uninformed garbage I've ever read. You guys should try watching Jameis play before throwing out asinine predictions about his career.

Manziel Jr? Too wrapped up in stupid stuff to put in the effort to be a decent pro. I see him as a major bust or falling horribly in the draft.

:lol:

Sure he has some major off field red-flags but unlike Manziel nobody has ever questioned his on-field preparation or work ethic. He's an advanced passer with a sound football IQ. Not to mention he's not a 170 lb. midget. He's light years ahead of Manziel as a pro prospect.

and the chance of him being a decent MLB pitcher is better than him being a decent QB in the NFL.
the fact that he could have been drafted after high school means plenty.

He was drafted in the 15th round, dude. Hundreds of HS kids get drafted every year. He is not a legitimate baseball prospect.

he is leaving college early to take a chance as a QB in the NFL, instead of finishing his education like most intelligent professionals.

:lol:

Jesus fucking christ. This is like talking football in a barber shop full of retards.
 
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