WWE giving up on Mistico already

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Exactly what I was about to post.

Seems only the top guys (Cena, Orton, Punk, Miz, Christian) get to work extended matches consistently.

Zack Ryder (WWWYKI) and Evan Bourne have >5m matches err week on Supastahs.

Mistico is extremely limited in a WWE environment. I don't even know why this is being discussed. He's be awful and botching shit left and right in a company where things are so limited there are rarely major botches. He's gets weekly appearances on Botchamania already.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Good to know...have probably seen him in 1 or 2 matches since he left WWF

Keep an eye on the Super Juniors thread. I'm posting anything I can find.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Zack Ryder (WWWYKI) and Evan Bourne have >5m matches err week on Supastahs.

Mistico is extremely limited in a WWE environment. I don't even know why this is being discussed. He's be awful and botching shit left and right in a company where things are so limited there are rarely major botches. He's gets weekly appearances on Botchamania already.

He's been fine if we are talking about some undercard flyer who they called up from FCW to work Superstars or job on RAW.

But the guy was brought in to main event for fucks sake. It's been nothing short of a disaster. I'm with you, brother.

 

[EmpireWF]

If he's been brought in to main event, then fuck yeah, it's been a failure.

How do you expect a guy to be able to main event when he's been on TV for close to two months and hasn't talked a single time. Language barrier is more of a detriment than his in-ring work IMO.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If he's been brought in to main event, then fuck yeah, it's been a failure.

How do you expect a guy to be able to main event when he's been on TV for close to two months and hasn't talked a single time. Language barrier is more of a detriment than his in-ring work IMO.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

He's been fine if we are talking about some undercard flyer who they called up from FCW to work Superstars or job on RAW.

But the guy was brought in to main event for fucks sake. It's been nothing short of a disaster. I'm with you, brother.

I don't even think he's been "fine" for a WWE undercard flyer from FCW. I see Evan Bourne doing everything better than Mistico and has since he showed up in the E.

 

[EmpireWF]

All those guys were monster heels with the exceptions of Goldberg (he has the obvious look) and Sting (who was already over with WCW fans and had a great feud going with the nWo)....and of course Fedor, but when was he a heel?

Screw Mascaras.

Name me a 5'5 foreigner who can get over in America as a main event level babyface without talking.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

All those guys were monster heels with the exceptions of Goldberg (he has the obvious look) and Sting (who was already over with WCW fans and had a great feud going with the nWo)....and of course Fedor, but when was he a heel?

Screw Mascaras.

Name me a 5'5 foreigner who can get over in America as a main event level babyface without talking.

Rey Mysterio...was way over with the American audience (so much so that the WWE audience embraced him as soon as he showed up) while he was doing flippy shit in WCW.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

All those guys were monster heels with the exceptions of Goldberg (he has the obvious look) and Sting (who was already over with WCW fans and had a great feud going with the nWo)....and of course Fedor, but when was he a heel?

There are a few guys in that list who are GREAT comparisons to Mistico.

-The Great Muta came into WCW in 1989, and immediately caught fire and main evented against Flair, Sting, and Luger. He was so over, that people still talk about him today, over 20 years later, like he was a WCW regular. He was there for like 6 months.

-Sabu never said a word his entire career until Vince made him cut that awful promo on WWECW.

-Mil Mascaras was a dynamic lucha flyer who never cut an english promo in his life, but main evented in every territory he ever was a part of.

All three came into territories and were so dynamic, so original, so charasmatic, that it didnt matter that they never spoke. Mistico was supposed to do the same. He hasnt gotten over because his athleticism and flying hasnt lived up to the hype. It has nothing to do with the fact he hasnt spoke.

 

[SHOGUN]

Name me a 5'5 foreigner who can get over in America as a main event level babyface without talking.

Ayako Hamada and Ayumi Kurihara.

Should have been more specific.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Name me a 5'5 foreigner who can get over in America as a main event level babyface without talking.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Name me a 5'5 foreigner who can get over in America as a main event level babyface without talking.

Here's another one! The guy they should have hired!

 

[EmpireWF]

Name me a big gate that little booger drew and you win.

 

[EmpireWF]

There are a few guys in that list who are GREAT comparisons to Mistico.

-The Great Muta came into WCW in 1989, and immediately caught fire and main evented against Flair, Sting, and Luger. He was so over, that people still talk about him today, over 20 years later, like he was a WCW regular. He was there for like 6 months.

-Sabu never said a word his entire career until Vince made him cut that awful promo on WWECW.

-Mil Mascaras was a dynamic lucha flyer who never cut an english promo in his life, but main evented in every territory he ever was a part of.

All three came into territories and were so dynamic, so original, so charasmatic, that it didnt matter that they never spoke. Mistico was supposed to do the same. He hasnt gotten over because his athleticism and flying hasnt lived up to the hype. It has nothing to do with the fact he hasnt spoke.

You still can't compare those instances to modern day WWE. Totally different beast.

Nobody gets over because they can work a great match right off the bat. Look at the most recent guys who have made their way to the main event....Miz, Punk, Del Rio (that may be it...lol). Only Punk has been proven to be able to work a good match. The one common denominator, they can all talk extremely well.

Another thing, Sabu and Mysterio were legit displaying stuff those audiences hadn't seen up that point. Mistico is not going to be doing never before seen stuff on Smackdown. It's not how their system works.

Mysterio would definitely be the closest comparison though. The man debuted in WCW and got over based on amazing matches.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You still can't compare those instances to modern day WWE. Totally different beast.

Nobody gets over because they can work a great match right off the bat. Look at the most recent guys who have made their way to the main event....Miz, Punk, Del Rio (that may be it...lol). Only Punk has been proven to be able to work a good match. The one common denominator, they can all talk extremely well.

Another thing, Sabu and Mysterio were legit displaying stuff those audiences hadn't seen up that point. Mistico is not going to be doing never before seen stuff on Smackdown. It's not how their system works.

Mysterio would definitely be the closest comparison though. The man debuted in WCW and got over based on amazing matches.

If Mistico isnt going do stuff you've never seen before, plus cant speak english, then why on earth do they think he is special and why would they have such high expectations?

Of course they expected him to be dynamic and do shit people have never seen before. That's the whole point. He isnt delivering. And since he isnt delivering, he really has nothing else going for him.

 

[s@ppisgod]

I'm not sure that the Cena-cheering WWE crowd has ever seen a flux capacitor. Then again, while a sharp fan, Empire has always been a little overly favorable to WWE.
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[EmpireWF]

If Mistico isnt going do stuff you've never seen before, plus cant speak english, then why on earth do they think he is special and why would they have such high expectations?

Of course they expected him to be dynamic and do shit people have never seen before. That's the whole point. He isnt delivering. And since he isnt delivering, he really has nothing else going for him.

We're still just a month into his SD run. I'm willing to give Mistico the rest of the summer before I label him a failure.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Mistico has been going up against Primo and Chavo...I mean...don't gimme dat "pitting him with guys who don't mesh well" stuff...its not like he is facing Sheamus every week.

I said it from the beginning...Mistico would flop badly. You can't recreate Rey Mysterio...not in the environment that wrestling is in today.

WWE sources indicate that Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde, the original Sin Cara, was sent home from Tuesday's SmackDown taping in Calgary, Alberta, Canada after meeting with company officials. He left the Scotiabank Saddledome before the event's conclusion.

Company sources say developmental talent Jorge Arias (a/k/a Hunico) will exclusively portray the Sin Cara character going forward. WWE wants to maintain the character since its been very popular among kids and in merchandise sales.

Many employees expect Alvirde to part ways with the organization, but that is not 100% confirmed.

WWE re-shot a match between Sin Cara and Heath Slater at Tuesday's taping since the initial bout featured numerous botched maneuvers. Aries portrayed Cara in both matches. Alvirde was dressed to compete, but management opted not to use him.

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