[ALL] XBL vs PSN: A True Comparison

[kyhadley]

I canceled one...because it was the intelligent thing to do. Weird that somehow the Sony security gaff is being shrugged off because you didn't experience any negative effects. What? Do you even remember what it was like then?

I mean I knew it was the intelligent thing to do, but I was lazy and decided to 'risk' it. Also I don't think it's being shrugged off, Maynard just said he never had to cancel a card because of XBL, and technically I've (and others it seems) haven't had to cancel one because of PSN either.

 

[Maynard]

i didnt "have" to cancel the card because i had anything charged against me. but shit man, use your common sense. thats like having someone steal your wallet and saying...ahh fuck it, im too lazy to cancel the card

like leaf said, just because that shit happened a year ago doesnt mean it cant still come back to bite your ass. sure you may be able to get it resolved, but who wants to deal with that

 

[SethMode]

Yeah, my issue wasn't that it was a reactive choice, it was a proactive one. And I think that the write up, and the reaction, to that craziness is basically as much of a shrug as is possible. Sony got lucky and has gotten lucky that there have been very little issues since that massive fuck up. I think any casual approach to it is a shrug off that isn't fair to the situation.

 

[Twigg4075]

Great post Chrispy but I have a couple of corrections/additions.

Xbox Live Gold is technically $60/year, not $50. Yes, there are deals all the time but the MSRP is $60.

As far as social apps and such, PSN does have MLBTV and NHL GameCenter, well before Xbox ever had them. I'm not even sure Xbox has NHL yet?

With online gaming, I haven't played CoD in a few months but when I did I didn't have any lag on PS3 and I don't really see any in Bf3, which is a much more massiveely scaled game in general. I also know I hear my wife complain about lag in CoDon 360 fairly regularly so I don't think it's fair to say that Xbox is the clear winner there.

So let me get this straight.

No one wins the security battle because a bunch of people are hacking live accounts and basically using the credit card on file to run up MS points in games like Fifa. No information is stolen just a credit card is run up and its pretty easy to reverse the charges and get things back to normal. I've helped 3 people with this issue now, twigg of course somehow had a hard time when it happened to him. I wonder why?.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here but if you think that I'm the only Xbox user that had significant problems getting their account back, points back, etc you are completely wrong. It took over three montsh to get everything back completely and their are some people that it took much longer. There are articles on Kotaku, Joystiq, Giant Bomb, etc that outline all of the issues and how long it took to fix. So trying to sweep it under the rug like it's a small problem is ludicrous.

In my issue it wasn't as simple as you try to make it to be. My account was completely compromised and points were stolen. I was actually lucky that they didn't use my card to buy more points. Instead they just drained my account of all the points I had...twice. It was around $80 worth of points, which isn't the end of the world, but it's nothing to sneeze at. And because MS's security and investigations department is so convoluted and useless it's a fucking NIGHTMARE to het any resolution. Hell, I might still be dealing with the problem if I hadn't been so persistent with calls.

So if you're implying I'm some special case and I'm just an idiot and that's whay I went through so much trouble, fuck off.

 

[Twigg4075]

its funny how knubb, the #2 vsn ps3 fanboy quotes twigg, the #1 vsn ps3 fanboy on how XBL isnt as secure

i never had to cancel a credit card because of xbl.

You're such a fucking tool. And congratulations for not being one of the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people that has had their XBL account compromised. I honestly hope it happens to you one day so you shut your smug ass up.

 

[Twigg4075]

Whats even funnier is that it doesn't matter that nothing has happened right away yet people feel secure in it. Why would someone who knowingly had a stolen credit card that was known to be stolen use it right away.Peoples information about their names, address everything was released. We've all seen the files they posted showing a fraction of the info they had and people are sitting here saying "well I haven't had any problems yet". Really bothers me.

And just an FYI if your gamertag is stolen on xbox live they still don't have access to most of that info.

LOL. Yeah, you know EXACTLY what you're talking about, except not at all. Because that is exactly when someone would use a stolen credit card or credit card number. They try to use it as quickly as possible before the victim realize that it's even missing. But what do I know? I'm just a cop.

 

[KNUBB]

Can I really be a PS3 fanboy? I have played my 360 almost exclusively for months

 

[Twigg4075]

Can I really be a PS3 fanboy? I have played my 360 almost exclusively for months

Yeah, I find it funny that somehow not only are you a fanboy but I'm two spots ahead of you at #1! I've been playing my 3DS almost exclusively for the past few weeks. I wonder who the #2 fanboy is in Maynard's imaginary hate world?

 

[Maynard]

cmon man...do you have to post so many things at once? i have to multi quote to rip on you.....wtf

Great post Chrispy but I have a couple of corrections/additions.

Xbox Live Gold is technically $60/year, not $50. Yes, there are deals all the time but the MSRP is $60.

As far as social apps and such, PSN does have MLBTV and NHL GameCenter, well before Xbox ever had them. I'm not even sure Xbox has NHL yet?

With online gaming, I haven't played CoD in a few months but when I did I didn't have any lag on PS3 and I don't really see any in Bf3, which is a much more massiveely scaled game in general. I also know I hear my wife complain about lag in CoDon 360 fairly regularly so I don't think it's fair to say that Xbox is the clear winner there.
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spoken like a true ps3 fanboy

You're such a fucking tool. And congratulations for not being one of the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people that has had their XBL account compromised. I honestly hope it happens to you one day so you shut your smug ass up.

Yeah, I find it funny that somehow not only are you a fanboy but I'm two spots ahead of you at #1!

1+1=3 - Reading Comprehension is Key

I'm just an idiot

can i quote you on this?

 

i think i can

 

[SethMode]

I don't want to get into this big fight, but stealing MS space points =/= potentially stealing credit cards. I thought (and seriously correct me if I'm wrong, it's just how I remember it) that you (Twigg) just had points stolen, not that someone used your CC to buy points and then steal them? I know as the person that got screwed that that doesn't feel like a difference but I think that it definitely is.

And Jesus fuckers, stop fighting over this dumbass shit. This is an interesting thing to talk about, particularly considering both companies starkly different approaches to their online structure. No need to get all 360 v. PS3 in this considering most of us know each other pretty well.

 

[leaffan]

LOL. Yeah, you know EXACTLY what you're talking about, except not at all. Because that is exactly when someone would use a stolen credit card or credit card number. They try to use it as quickly as possible before the victim realize that it's even missing. But what do I know? I'm just a cop.

It's honestly scary that you just said that being a cop and all. You obviously don't deal with online and cyber crime but I will say this isn't someone stealing a number on the street and then trying to run a muck on it before it gets cancelled. It's quite the opposite.

I've had to deal with this stuff in the past so I'm just speaking from expierence here.

 

[leaffan]

Can I really be a PS3 fanboy? I have played my 360 almost exclusively for months

I'll pull the I have black friends card as well if I get called racist :smug:

 

[Maynard]

And Jesus fuckers, stop fighting over this dumbass shit.

there is no fighting....twigg just takes it personally.

i just worry that he is so easily riled up about knowing the ps3 is an inferior product to the 360, that one day we might see him on video beating someone up rodney kind style

 

[KNUBB]

I'll pull the I have black friends card as well if I get called racist :smug:

Only if there is truth to it :thumbsup:

 

[leaffan]

Only if there is truth to it :thumbsup:

It isn't true I live in canada. Just a bunch of white people and different asians here :yao:

 

[PP]

there is no fighting....twigg just takes it personally.

i just worry that he is so easily riled up about knowing the ps3 is an inferior product to the 360, that one day we might see him on video beating someone up rodney kind style

lolwut.

Are you really Chodite?

 

[Maynard]

twigg must have changed his name to pp

 

[Helicopter]

You don't seriously think the 360 is superior to the PS3, do you?

 

[Twigg4075]

I don't want to get into this big fight, but stealing MS space points =/= potentially stealing credit cards. I thought (and seriously correct me if I'm wrong, it's just how I remember it) that you (Twigg) just had points stolen, not that someone used your CC to buy points and then steal them? I know as the person that got screwed that that doesn't feel like a difference but I think that it definitely is.

You are correct. When I initially discovered the problem and called the MS rep that I talked to actually said "Wow, I can't believe they didn't use your credit card to buy more points because that's usually what happens."

I actually think the fact that they stole the points was more of a pain in the ass then had they stolen my credit card number. Like Leaf said, had it been my cc, I could've went through the card company and it probably would've taken one call to clear everything up. Instead I had to deal with MS and their shitty customer service which is why it took months and well over ten calls to finally get it resolved.

It's honestly scary that you just said that being a cop and all. You obviously don't deal with online and cyber crime but I will say this isn't someone stealing a number on the street and then trying to run a muck on it before it gets cancelled. It's quite the opposite.

I've had to deal with this stuff in the past so I'm just speaking from expierence here.

I hear you. It's definitely different. But I've also handled my fair share of "cyber crime" or white collar crimes like identity and credit card theft. In most cases, once the information is obtained it is used as quickly as possible to open accounts, make charges, etc.

What I really don't understand is how Microsoft gets credit for just recently having MLBtv yet PSN has had it for at least 2-3 years prior to XBL getting it.

That was one of the points I made earlier when I was telling Chrispy I had a few things to make corrections about but of course I get called a fanboy by that fucking clown Maynard.

 

[Maynard]

You don't seriously think the 360 is superior to the PS3, do you?

i dont think about it. they both have their pros and cons and i love them both. that comment was just to troll twigg

i will say that my PC is far superior to both. its not even close, but i guess that goes without saying