Official PSN discussion thread

[jms493]

I don't see what paying Live has to do with PS+?

[Garrett67]

I think he is saying that you pay for Xbox live and don't get a ton of free games. You're paying for Live just for the privilege of playing online whereas with PS+, you get good free games.
I think PSN sucks ass for network quality but I think its worth it for the games. I say that because I don't buy many games, whereas most of you guys run out and buy games on release day, so you probably already played the games anyway.

[jms493]

Free Vita Games

1. Gravity Rush - No
2. Uncharted: Golden Abyss - Yes
3. WipEout 2048 - Have for PSN
4. Jet Set Radio - No
5. Chronovolt - No
6. Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack - Own
7. Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention - No
8. Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus - No
9. Plants vs. Zombies - No
10. Foosball 2012 - No
11. Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention - No
12. Tekken 6 - No

Might have missed a few but nothing worth spending $50 for....yet.

[Swarley]

I think PSN sucks ass for network quality

I haven't seen a difference in years.

[jms493]

PSN network is fine except for nobody having mics.

[Swarley]

http://www.hardcoreware.net/is-playstation-plus-worth-it/

[Twigg4075]

PSN network is fine except for nobody having mics.

That is such a bullshit argument. I hear as many people (or lack thereof) talking on Live when I play with randoms. Shit is a ghost town in almost any game you play with randoms on both consoles.

Now if you play with the same narrowmind like friends as yorrself on PS3, then you have no one to blame but yourself. Everyone on my PS3 friends list has a mic (that I know of). Every game we play everyone talks.

I'm so sick of that bullshit excuse. It's almost as tired as "PSN connections suck."

[jms493]

http://www.hardcoreware.net/is-plays...plus-worth-it/

While that list is a fantastic list of games...for me personally I have beaten most of those games and the other half I am not interested in. See like Garrett said I buy almost every game I want to play. Therefore most of these games they offer are old news to me.

[Garrett67]

That is such a bullshit argument. I hear as many people (or lack thereof) talking on Live when I play with randoms. Shit is a ghost town in almost any game you play with randoms on both consoles.

Now if you play with the same narrowmind like friends as yorrself on PS3, then you have no one to blame but yourself. Everyone on my PS3 friends list has a mic (that I know of). Every game we play everyone talks.

I'm so sick of that bullshit excuse. It's almost as tired as "PSN connections suck."

When I say that PSN connection sucks, I am referring to download speeds from the store. I don't play many online games with people so I really don't care about that

[jms493]

That is such a bullshit argument. I hear as many people (or lack thereof) talking on Live when I play with randoms. Shit is a ghost town in almost any game you play with randoms on both consoles.

Now if you play with the same narrowmind like friends as yorrself on PS3, then you have no one to blame but yourself. Everyone on my PS3 friends list has a mic (that I know of). Every game we play everyone talks.

I'm so sick of that bullshit excuse. It's almost as tired as "PSN connections suck."

Ok then...I guess I am wrong. Havent played in a while online ps3. Last games was killzone 2

[Swarley]

Whenever I fire up Battlefield 3, everyone and their mother has a mic.

[Twigg4075]

While that list is a fantastic list of games...for me personally I have beaten most of those games and the other half I am not interested in. See like Garrett said I buy almost every game I want to play. Therefore most of these games they offer are old news to me.

Then the discounts alone more than make up for the subscription.

But again, this is the PS3 we're talking about so it would take an act of Congress to convince you of any value in it.

Garret was right when he assumed what I was trying to say. It's just funny how you'll spend the money on Live without thinking twice and you get absolutely nothing in return. But you get proof upon proof of what a value you get for your $50 with Plus and you make every excuse why it isn't worth it to you. Just bafffling.

When I say that PSNb connection sucks, I amnesty referring to download speeds from the store. I don't play many online games with people so I really don't care about that

That is understandable then. I'm guessing you have an older PS3 though? I can attest to the fact that downloading from PSN using an older PS3 is a fucking JOKE. My old 60GB was so fucking slow and my wife's 40GB is just laughable. It took her like ten hours to download PS All Stars! My Slim downloads stuff as fast as I download stuff on my 360 from Live. I've never really looked into it but I remember Handle mentioning that Sony put better wireless cards in the Slim consoles which improved download speeds dramatically. It makes sense and I've seen the results. The problem is that most PS3 owners still have the old consoles because they didn't constantly break at the rate the 360's have so most don't have reason to upgrade.

[Garrett67]

Yeah, mine is a circa 2008 PS3, might even be 2007.


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[jms493]

I have no choice with live...I have to pay it. How would i play forza online?

[wingsfan77]

Yeah my PS3 downloads fine, Sleeping Dogs finished in about an hour the other day.