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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26141

    #16
    Originally posted by Ravin
    How about just getting the guys who make NHL in their to make Madden.

    A continued slide down year after year, as someon said, most companies would start to look at the people making the game and what is really going on. But then again, 1.2M copies in a week. Times that $60/game on average, that is $72M in goods sold. I know EA doesn't get it all, but still, a good amount for one week.
    Yes, that is obviously a healthy number, but that's not how business works. Success/failure is based largely on growth.

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    • PP
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 4994

      #17
      Madden is out on more consoles than it was in 07 too wasn't it?

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      • killgod
        OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
        • Oct 2008
        • 4714

        #18
        Originally posted by PP
        Madden is out on more consoles than it was in 07 too wasn't it?
        No.

        Madden 11 is still on PS2, also now on Wii, Facebook, etc.

        Although the PS2 is a dead console.

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        • PP
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 4994

          #19
          what i am saying... is back in 07, madden was on ps2/ps1.. xbox wasnt out yet was it? now there are many more 360s and ps3s and wiis than at that time and sales are way lower.

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          • killgod
            OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
            • Oct 2008
            • 4714

            #20
            Originally posted by PP
            what i am saying... is back in 07, madden was on ps2/ps1.. xbox wasnt out yet was it? now there are many more 360s and ps3s and wiis than at that time and sales are way lower.
            Xbox was definitely out in 2007, so was the 360.

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            • killgod
              OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
              • Oct 2008
              • 4714

              #21
              Madden Sales = Weak Game Industry?

              Sales are down 8 percent year-to-date from 2009’s disappointing numbers. Even the most optimistic analysts are now saying that the best investors can hope for is a flat year.


              Here's what I love reading and just facepalm every time Peter Moore spouts off Metacritic ratings

              The price cuts could indicate the initial word of mouth was fair to middling. Critics have given the game fairly high marks—Metacritic.com, which compiles game review scores, gave “Madden NFL 11” a ranking of 85 out of 100. User scores on that same site, though, only rank it 5.3 out of 10.
              The game reviewers say: "Madden is great!" (P.S. Thanks for advertising on our site!)
              The consumers say: "Fuck this garbage"

              THERE IS YOUR DISCONNECT EA.

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              • Maynard
                stupid ass titles
                • Feb 2009
                • 17875

                #22
                the critics have no integrity and over rate these games for the devs.

                the users on the other hand are just as bad if not worse. take out all the fanboy 10's and all the hater 0's and my guess is the score would be around 7

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                • killgod
                  OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4714

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Maynard
                  the critics have no integrity and over rate these games for the devs.

                  the users on the other hand are just as bad if not worse. take out all the fanboy 10's and all the hater 0's and my guess is the score would be around 7
                  I agree. The game is a 7, 7.5 at best and has never been better on Next Gen.

                  Earlier editions were terrible, should have been 5's and 6's, but according to places like fucking IGN it's always been an 8.

                  Bullshit. More gaming media resources need to blow up these bullshit reviewers.


                  I fucking LOL'D my ass off yesterday. Ian messaged a reviewer on GiantBomb saying "Great review, you were always one of the more fair reviewers"

                  I looked at the review

                  In terms of game modes, Madden 11 is stuffed as full as ever, to the point where it will probably take you weeks to even realize some of these features are here. Franchise mode returns in mostly the same form you've come to know it in, and the online version of it, which debuted last year, is quite an engaging experience. It's easy enough to join up with a league full of your friends, and play games with them each week. Trades, injuries, fantasy drafts, detailed statistics, all of it's there.
                  Like get fucking bent you god damn liar. The only change in game modes is the addition of OTP, that's it. Online Franchise is engaging? Only if you have a sorry poor mother fucker like me spending 100's of hours doing the work EA can't fucking be bothered to do.

                  Detailed statistics in OF? GTFO YOU LYING CUNT. No team stats, bare bones leader boards. Garbage.

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                  • JeremyHight
                    I wish I was Scrubs
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4063

                    #24
                    Wouldn't renting still count as buys? I mean... its not like GameFly and Blockbuster didn't buy the game in order to rent it out.

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                    • ralaw
                      Posts too much
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 6662

                      #25
                      I wonder if they'll be able to come out with a patch to get those numbers up.

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                      • Ravin
                        Dishing the Gino's
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6994

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                        Yes, that is obviously a healthy number, but that's not how business works. Success/failure is based largely on growth.
                        Well yeah, that is obvious. I'm just saying, for a first week, you can't really complain about $72M in the bank. But that isn't saying that they shouldn't be worried. Madden is the biggest purchased sports game I would probably say (don't know Fifa numbers) and it's numbers are slipping. It's an unchallenged market, they should have no reason not to sell 2m+ in the first week.

                        I think EA really needs to take a deep look into their team running madden. Numbers are dropping, and if I am correct, isn't the NFL contract almost up, meaning the door could open to others to make football games. It is these years that you want people to get so caught up in your product that they don't even consider the others when/if it comes out. It is like that for me with NHL series. I don't even look at 2k's game, as EA's game is vastly better all around.

                        In a way, I'm the person EA needs to sell on. I haven't bought Madden since 04 or whenever my brother got the last one. And every year I do get in the hype of the game, as I like playing with people here, but as soon as you start hearing all the shit that is going on in the game, I just remind myself that NHL is a month away and pass on Madden every year. I'm the gamer they want into their market. They have all the people here who buy madden every day, and sorry to say to them, getting a game done quicker is not something myself as a casual gamer cares about. I'll spend an hour playing a game if the game is worth playing.
                        All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                        "rammer" and "cummings"

                        The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                        • Houston
                          Back home
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 21229

                          #27
                          Proud to say I took a stand and didn't buy that shit this year.

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                          • dave
                            Go the fuck outside
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 15489

                            #28
                            I can't remember the last time I had this much fun playing Madden, but I think those sales numbers are a good thing.
                            Maybe the NFL will reconsider exclusive licensing, and maybe it will force EA to consider rebuilding from scratch (though I have my doubts about the latter).
                            My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000

                            Twitch archived games link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000/profile/past_broadcasts

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                            • Ravin
                              Dishing the Gino's
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 6994

                              #29
                              They are to late into the next gen to rebuild fom scratch. Though honestly, I don't see the "next gen" after this one being that far advanced, so they can get a good start.
                              All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                              "rammer" and "cummings"

                              The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                              • Nature Boy
                                Raiders
                                • May 2009
                                • 615

                                #30
                                Originally posted by PP
                                Doesn't he work for THQ now doing wrestling games?
                                Yep, he left EA Sports and is now the producer for WWE Smackdown vs Raw 11.

                                LINK

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