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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    Originally posted by killgod
    Some stats for you guys to chew on today.


    Total At Bats: 2127
    Hits: 466
    League AVG: .219 (MLB 2010 = .257)

    Singles: 260
    % of AB being Single = 12.2 (MLB 2010 = 17.3)
    % of Hits being Single = 55.8 (MLB 2010 = 67.1)

    Doubles: 105
    % of AB being Double = 4.9 (MLB 2010 = 5.1)
    % of Hits being Double = 22.5 (MLB 2010 = 20.0)
    Triples: 13
    % of AB being Triple = 0.6 (MLB 2010 = 0.5)
    % of Hits being Triple = 2.8 (MLB 2010 = 2.0)
    Home Runs: 88
    % of AB being Home Run = 4.1 (MLB 2010 = 2.8)
    % of Hits being Home Run = 18.9 (MLB 2010 = 10.9)

    I used the league averages to come up with those MLB 2010 percentages. See today's Gameday thread for changes I've made based on this.
    According to this data, 2B's and 3B's are just about dead on to real life.

    The HR's are just as I suspected. Not really an overabundance (only about 1% higher per AB than reality, which isnt much), it just seems that way because most of the runs are coming from dingers. I can't back this up, but I would be willing to bet there were more HR's last year in our league on a percentage basis. I would also be willing to bet that 70% or more of the total runs have come via the HR so far. That's crazy, and makes it seem like we are hitting more homers than we really are.

    The bold is the issue. Not enough singles.

    And the hidden factor is more K's. Less balls in play = less hits. You can talk about having patience all you want, but anyone who has played enough games this year knows damn well that isnt the only issue.

    So how do we increase singles, and decrease K's? I think bumping the contact up is definately worth a shot. I don't see how bumping down HR's will help anything. In fact, it might lead to less runs overall, which isnt good.

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    • killgod
      OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
      • Oct 2008
      • 4714

      We're gonna try the changes I listed in the gameday thread and see how it changes things. Doesn't hurt to test stuff out.

      More hits that aren't HR will reduce the percentage of hits being HR without taking anyway, but I still though they could be brought down. Maybe turn some outs into singles and some HR's into XB hits.

      As for balls in play and K's, well you guys are mostly responsible for those. I don't have a problem with it and a few others don't either. Even with the lag BucFan said he had, he worked lots of long counts and didn't swing at many tough pitches or balls outside.

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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17876

        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
        Also Maynard, what P was it? Was he called up from the minors?
        it was javier lopez. below avg stamina for a RP, but he should still get thru more than 12 pitches i would think. other than this one guys issue, none of my other RP felt off with there energy levels

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        • Maynard
          stupid ass titles
          • Feb 2009
          • 17876

          this game sucks. its so fucking boring

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          • PepperNY
            Best in the World
            • Jan 2011
            • 904

            tried playing Schmukie tonite for almost an hour and could never connect with him. It seems to be on his end because i played other league games tonite and havent had a problem.

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            • BuccaneerFan
              Noob
              • Feb 2009
              • 924

              Originally posted by Maynard
              this game sucks. its so fucking boring
              This game is a fucking disaster online.

              Played 2 games tonight with great connections and no lag, and this game still sucks goat testicles. Pitch speed needs to be turned up, I don't know why everyone wants to keep playing on these settings. Everyone is flailing away early at offspeed stuff, and when looking for a fastball people are still swinging early at 94mph cheese. Ugh.....TURN THE FUCKING PITCH SPEED UP! :club:

              Every game is a chore to get through. I fanned Stealth 20 times with Wade Davis. He was swinging early on just about everything. Loads of fun.

              I played Irish and outhit him 11-3, but lost 5-3. lol I gave up two inside the park HRs on botched fielding in the OF.

              Veteran hitting is a bore. Hit variety is terrible. Has anyone tried other settings? How about HOF batting with contact turned up? Legend? Rookie? lol Anything different at this point.

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              • Irish
                do you see my jesus chain
                • Oct 2008
                • 4416

                I felt so cheap taking those inside the parkers on some bad fielding, but I have been on such a losing streak I took them.

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                • BuccaneerFan
                  Noob
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 924

                  Originally posted by Irish
                  I felt so cheap taking those inside the parkers on some bad fielding, but I have been on such a losing streak I took them.
                  Don't sweat it man, I would have taken those too. I just laughed at the stupidity of it all. I'm not sure what exactly happened on the Upton play, it looked like he had his glove out ready to catch the ball but he just missed it. I think the Zobrist error was my own handiwork.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    Originally posted by BuccaneerFan
                    Don't sweat it man, I would have taken those too. I just laughed at the stupidity of it all. I'm not sure what exactly happened on the Upton play, it looked like he had his glove out ready to catch the ball but he just missed it. I think the Zobrist error was my own handiwork.
                    Its because the fielding stinks this year. Guys get terrible jumps on the ball (I am absolutely perplexed that people want to change the sliders to make the jumps slower, because these players already move like they are running in sand), and if you arent directly in the center of the shadow, they misplay the flyballs.

                    Why they tinkered and fucked with such a great game is beyond my understanding.

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                    • Brotha2ThaNight
                      Viva Sombrero
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 933

                      anyone around for an AM game perferrably someone that has the Mets for an open date...please email @ b2tnVSN@gmail.com to schedule a time I am open til around 1pm today
                      Yahoo: BigVoo

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                      • GangstaE
                        No longer a noob
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1659

                        I think the people who mostly play franchise and RTTS have more trouble with the pitch speed because of how smooth it is so it feels much faster. Since i mostly play online i dont have as much trouble adjusting as much.

                        I also like All-Star hitting much more than Veteran hitting but i have never tried Hall of Fame.
                        Legend i just feel over matched but can get some good at bats but hitting is much harder on that level.

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                        • killgod
                          OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4714

                          Agreed regarding offline. I simply can't do both because it's too different.

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                          • Maynard
                            stupid ass titles
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 17876

                            Originally posted by BuccaneerFan
                            This game is a fucking disaster online.

                            Played 2 games tonight with great connections and no lag, and this game still sucks goat testicles. Pitch speed needs to be turned up, I don't know why everyone wants to keep playing on these settings. Everyone is flailing away early at offspeed stuff, and when looking for a fastball people are still swinging early at 94mph cheese. Ugh.....TURN THE FUCKING PITCH SPEED UP! :club:

                            Every game is a chore to get through. I fanned Stealth 20 times with Wade Davis. He was swinging early on just about everything. Loads of fun.

                            Veteran hitting is a bore. Hit variety is terrible. .
                            agree with just about all of this. idk if the lowered pitch speed is the issue though. judging the ball is where i think the problem is. i see a pitch coming in like a fastball and next thing i know it breaks down out of the zone. i cant pick it up. anything on the corners or down in the zone seems almost impossible to make contact with.

                            idk if raised contact, power, timing and solid hits would be the better way to go. Guys were swinging way early when the pitch speed was on default. i would have hoped that the lower speed would help, but i see people swing early on everything too. All u need is a change and slider and u can dominate

                            i agree its a chore. pitching isnt even fun now cause its so easy to fool people and it doesnt even feel like u were the one who fucked them up. it just feels like the they cant see the ball....same as me

                            i dont think raisign the hitting level would help, but i agree that the hits people get are not varied at all.

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                            • killgod
                              OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 4714

                              We're going to try out some different settings for a couple days. Please provide feedback on your games.

                              Changes made:

                              Hitting Level: HOF
                              Pitching Level: HOF
                              Human Contact: 7 --> 8
                              Human Power: 3 --> 4
                              Pitch Speed: 4 --> 5

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                              • BuccaneerFan
                                Noob
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 924

                                Originally posted by killgod
                                We're going to try out some different settings for a couple days. Please provide feedback on your games.

                                Changes made:

                                Hitting Level: HOF
                                Pitching Level: HOF
                                Human Contact: 7 --> 8
                                Human Power: 3 --> 4
                                Pitch Speed: 4 --> 5
                                I played Maynard on default HOF hitting and pitching and thought it was great. I enjoyed having an offense again. Maynard my choose to disagree however. :ooops:

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