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  • leaffan
    Colton Orr Fan
    • Feb 2009
    • 11082

    #31
    Originally posted by wingsfan77
    Also, I would like to see better animations for trying to keep the puck in at the blue line, because as it is now that's nearly impossible.
    I'd like to see players kinda toe drag their way into the zone instead of just skating in and taking offside all the time.

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    • killgod
      OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
      • Oct 2008
      • 4714

      #32
      So I read a bit more regarding the Winter Classic. 2K owns licensing to baseball stadiums, which is why EA never did the Classic before.

      Considering the 2012 event is in a baseball stadium, don't expect it in NHL 12 I guess.

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      • guchi45
        I'm better than Woy
        • Feb 2009
        • 555

        #33
        NHL 2K12 will be better than NHL 12.

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        • Ravin
          Dishing the Gino's
          • Feb 2009
          • 6994

          #34
          Originally posted by guchi45
          NHL 2K12 will be better than NHL 12.


          If you like arcade style hockey, then yes it will be. I'm not saying the 2K games are horrible, as they do some things right, but after playing with the skill stick, going back to button mashing to shoot is a pain.

          When I got my xbox, it came with NHL08 and 2k8. The kid I bought it from had both. I had to have the game booklet beside me the entire time, because to shoot a slap shot was like RB+A, and a wrist shot was LT+Y and it was just the most fucked up controls I have ever played with. So trying to fumble your way through a game was just insanity. Faceoffs had what seemed like 100 different buttons, and hitting was something else, and by the end of the game, you had to remember about 100 combinations of shit....and the game play was arcade.
          All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

          "rammer" and "cummings"

          The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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          • Ravin
            Dishing the Gino's
            • Feb 2009
            • 6994

            #35
            I was thinking the other day about Online Franchise and how they could put this into the game, BUT not have all 30 teams if you decided to, as with the long NHL season, I doubt people would get through more then 1 season. Killgod help me out here if I'm wrong, as I'm going a lot by what The Show seems to do from basically looking at your league.

            Basically make it so that you have the options at running all 30 teams, or just the teams selected. Obviously decide on trading and such, but if it is a OF, that needs to happen.

            So say you get 10 teams, and you select just to use those ten, set divisions and pick the number of games you want to play in a season. I think this is where the controls could be endles, because if you select 20 games, you can have the option to play every team twice, play only division, or division three times, other division once. Lot's of open options to do for that. Have the game make a schedule up, and then like The Show, open blocks of games, or just allow people like they do now, to play as much as they want, but have every game listed so that you can sim it. So if say the guys who are Toronto/Boston are slow as fuck, you can just go to that game and hit sim and away it goes. This is why I think a generated schedule would need to happen and not this "pick how many games you'll play" bullshit. The owner of the league should be able to see every game listed in a long list, and can sim whatever he wants to if needed. I'd say it would be up to the league if they wanted to follow the schedule or move off it, but having something set in advance would work well.

            Then just run the OF as normal, with minor's a draft and all that jazz. I don't really know how to deal with the issue is having only 10 teams and what happens to the players on the other 20. Do they go into a free agent list, or are they just removed and that is that. OF is just insanely hard with hockey and its huge season.
            All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

            "rammer" and "cummings"

            The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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            • Boucher
              King of EDM
              • Jul 2009
              • 3733

              #36
              that sounds gay

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              • Ravin
                Dishing the Gino's
                • Feb 2009
                • 6994

                #37
                Having the same league set up with no options or settings or controls for the owner for the past 5 years is gay.
                All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                "rammer" and "cummings"

                The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                • killgod
                  OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4714

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ravin
                  I was thinking the other day about Online Franchise and how they could put this into the game, BUT not have all 30 teams if you decided to, as with the long NHL season, I doubt people would get through more then 1 season. Killgod help me out here if I'm wrong, as I'm going a lot by what The Show seems to do from basically looking at your league.

                  Basically make it so that you have the options at running all 30 teams, or just the teams selected. Obviously decide on trading and such, but if it is a OF, that needs to happen.

                  So say you get 10 teams, and you select just to use those ten, set divisions and pick the number of games you want to play in a season. I think this is where the controls could be endles, because if you select 20 games, you can have the option to play every team twice, play only division, or division three times, other division once. Lot's of open options to do for that. Have the game make a schedule up, and then like The Show, open blocks of games, or just allow people like they do now, to play as much as they want, but have every game listed so that you can sim it. So if say the guys who are Toronto/Boston are slow as fuck, you can just go to that game and hit sim and away it goes. This is why I think a generated schedule would need to happen and not this "pick how many games you'll play" bullshit. The owner of the league should be able to see every game listed in a long list, and can sim whatever he wants to if needed. I'd say it would be up to the league if they wanted to follow the schedule or move off it, but having something set in advance would work well.

                  Then just run the OF as normal, with minor's a draft and all that jazz. I don't really know how to deal with the issue is having only 10 teams and what happens to the players on the other 20. Do they go into a free agent list, or are they just removed and that is that. OF is just insanely hard with hockey and its huge season.
                  Yeah I agree with you, NHL needs a mode like this.

                  Personally, I think an OF mode with the full 30 team setup could work. Considering NHL can be just as fun to manage as it is to play, I mean in real life I don't think there's any sport where people pay and know about he cap like they do in hockey. Hockey fans know salary caps, NTC's, all that shit mostly off the top of our heads.

                  So I'm thinking have an OF mode where the only games played are User v User. The rest get simmed, playing the CPU is lame anyways.

                  So if you had 30 human teams, you're playing all the games, not that I would do that myself, but the option would be nice. Or have 10 or so user teams and the schedule moves day by day as the user games get played. You could churn through 5-10 seasons with a OF like that and it would be pretty fun. Perhaps an option to play CPU games in the playoffs too.

                  Personally, where this game pisses me off the most is that they don't realize why people want to play the game. I play Madden because I want to play the real season and win the Superbowl, I play FIFA because I want to play the MLS season and win the Cup.

                  I play NHL cause I want to manage an NHL team and win the Stanley Cup. Yet all their focus is on the gay HUT thing and EASHL, neither are true to real hockey formats.

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                  • Ravin
                    Dishing the Gino's
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6994

                    #39
                    It would be great to do it this way. 1v1 leagues don't work for us because I think we want so much more from a hockey game. 10 guys playing, even if you have to sim isn't bad. Because it is a mix of 1v1 league and Be a Gm, which I think everyone here loves. And over 5-10 seasons, you can go from a dud team to a stud team by way of the draft and building your team up. All while playing maybe 20-25 games per season, depending on how things went. Some guys you'll play 5-6 times, some guys you'll play once. That is the joy of the franchise.

                    HUT is not OF, no matter what way they try and package it. I want to sit down and trade with guys, look at my AHL team, see what the other guys have on their roster, prospects, drafting, trading said draft picks, managing the cap.

                    If you want to do it like The Show does, open up a month as like a "block" and then guys can play games in those blocks out of order. So if I need to play KG on December 1st, and leaf on December 19th, I can play either game first. Then as an owner, you simply say "Month of December runs from May 21-28. If you have a lot of human games, well get playing. NHL runs from October to April, so you could get an entire season done within about 2 months, if not quickly depending on play rate.

                    To me that seems easy to do and the best solution. Of course though, the game needs to fix the CPU AI because if after the 10 teams are picked, if Edmonton is not one of them and stupid Oilers don't save cap to keep Hall, someone can snipe a star for nothing.
                    All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                    "rammer" and "cummings"

                    The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                    • leaffan
                      Colton Orr Fan
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11082

                      #40
                      First mention of HUT in this thread....

                      Fuck that mode.

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                      • PP
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 4994

                        #41
                        Originally posted by leaffan
                        First mention of HUT in this thread....

                        Fuck that mode.
                        Worst mode in the world.

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                        • killgod
                          OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 4714

                          #42
                          Originally posted by leaffan
                          First mention of HUT in this thread....

                          Fuck that mode.
                          The best part about all the HUT nonsense was last year during one of the developer chats.

                          HUT was already announced but they were spilling things and it was their "big juicy info" for this chat. They had a poll going for what are you most excited about and it was like HUT, EASHL Improvements, Battle for the Cup and Be a GM.

                          HUT was a real distant 4th and the Andy Agostini guy was moaning and crying because nobody gave a shit about the stupid mode.

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                          • wingsfan77
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 3000

                            #43
                            Originally posted by leaffan
                            First mention of HUT in this thread....

                            Fuck that mode.
                            Yeah I really don't understand the appeal o fit, I played it for a few games and got bored.

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                            • Irish
                              do you see my jesus chain
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 4416

                              #44
                              EA will always boast about Ultimate Team. I think for FIFA, Ultimate Team alone made around a couple million dollars. It probably makes them the most money for how easy it must be to create it.

                              I don't think it really works well for Madden or NHL. NHL had potential because of all the leagues, but it really isn't that much fun.

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                              • leaffan
                                Colton Orr Fan
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11082

                                #45
                                HUTs beauty is it has that WoW grind feel to it. You have to play a bitch load of games to get anywhere or you can just dish out 20 bucks and buy yourself a stacked team. I put probably 60 to 70 games into it playing all offline mainly just during the day when I had 20mins to kill and I thought I had set myself up with a little decent team. I go into a tourney with teams the same star rating as me and it was just a rage fest. Thats when I said f it and quit playing it.

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