Sony acquires developer Sucker Punch

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  • leaffan
    Colton Orr Fan
    • Feb 2009
    • 11082

    #31
    And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

    A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

    Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.

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    • Maynard
      stupid ass titles
      • Feb 2009
      • 17875

      #32
      Originally posted by leaffan
      Good thing you mentioned it before me since I'm sure I would of been labelled my classic pc fanboy comment.
      .
      i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment

      Originally posted by leaffan
      And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

      A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

      Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.
      very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

      personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me

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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17875

        #33
        Originally posted by Twigg4075
        That's funny because even Brnt and Heels have said on the podcast that the audio on the Xbox sucks. It's so quiet.
        Originally posted by leaffan
        The audio for ncaa12 on both consoles has been said to have issues this year. This is not just an xbox issue.
        it sounds the same as it always does imo. i notice no difference. i will say this, i do find myself having to turn up my TV from 10 (which is where it stay 95% of the time) to 12 when i play. It doesnt make the quality of the sound any better or worse though

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        • Twigg4075
          Kindergarten Cop
          • Feb 2009
          • 20056

          #34
          Originally posted by leaffan
          The audio for ncaa12 on both consoles has been said to have issues this year. This is not just an xbox issue.
          I know. It's on both. But Maynard is trying to say that teh Xbox version is fine, which is bullshit. Read my posts. I said BOTH versions have gimped audio. And then I said the reasoning for this is that the audio was compressed to fit on the 360 disc and they just ported it to PS3, which is bullshit and lazy on EA's part.

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          • Twigg4075
            Kindergarten Cop
            • Feb 2009
            • 20056

            #35
            Originally posted by leaffan
            And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

            A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

            Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.
            It's going to be on THREE discs now? The last I heard was two.
            Originally posted by Maynard
            i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment



            very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

            personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me
            That's EXACTLY what I was talking about dickhead. Read my posts again. Reading comprehension FTL for you. I even brought up Rage. Holy fuck you're brain dead.

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            • PP
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 4994

              #36
              Originally posted by Maynard
              i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment



              very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

              personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me
              This thread is about Sony and buying an exclusive studio to develop first party games. If PSfanboys are rejoicing good. Get your xbot shit out of this thread.

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              • Twigg4075
                Kindergarten Cop
                • Feb 2009
                • 20056

                #37
                Bottom line.

                Knubb made a comment saying that he was glad Sucker Punch is staying with Sony because then we don't have to deal with yet more franchises (ie inFamous and Sly Cooper-although I think those IP's are owned by Sony) being dumbed down to be ported to other consoles, ie the 360. Then Maynard asked to name a PS3 exclusive that turned multiplatform and was "dumbed down". Since Sony doesn't lose exclusives as much as some other companies you'd be hard pressed to find an example. The only game that I can think of is MGS and who knows when that will ever come out. And even so, MGS has shown up on other consoles before, most notably Nintendo consoles.
                Then I brought up certain multiplatform games in general. Most notably NCAA (just released) and Rage (soon to be released). NCAA has clear audio issues, significantly different than last years game. I clearly said that BOTH version had the issues because it was pretty obvious EA made the game for 360 and ported it to PS3. But of course Maynard chimes it with his obviously uneducated "The 360 version is fine. I don't know what you're talking about." WRONG.They compressed the audio to fit on a 360 disc and just ported it to PS3, instead of uncompressing it with all the extra space on bluray. Lazy fucking EA but I'm not surprised. But that is a perfect example of dumbing a game down. Then with Rage it has been reported by Jaohn Carmack at iD (and referenced by Leaf) that the 360 version will be inferior (lack of a better term) dure to disc space. The amazing new graphics engine they are touting (iD Tech 5 I believe?) will be toned down, along with audio and a few other things. Plus it will be on multiple discs. I read two, which was a while ago, but Leaf is now saying three.
                Knubb also mentioned FF13. I think those games are crap but it sort of supports the argument The 360 version was terrible and on like, what, 5 or 6 discs? But luckily the PS3 version was the lead SKU so it didn't suffer. So technically no dumbing down. I do love how Seth just writes off FF as being "lame" but when I actually explain my reasoning behind my distaste for Capcom and most fighting game sin general I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and should stay out of the conversation.

                More and more companies are making their multiplatform games on PS3 first recently because while it's harder that way it optimizes both versions of the game. EA is obviously still stuck in 2007 and of course cuts corners so you will see dumbed down versions of their games on PS3 which is a shame and exactly what Knubb was referring to. How Maynard can't get that through his thick skull is beyond me.

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                • SethMode
                  Master of Mysticism
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5754

                  #38
                  Originally posted by PP
                  This thread is about Sony and buying an exclusive studio to develop first party games. If PSfanboys are rejoicing good. Get your xbot shit out of this thread.
                  People like you suck. Rejoicing over exclusive games is just about the apex of faggotry.

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                  • Twigg4075
                    Kindergarten Cop
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20056

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SethMode
                    People like you suck. Rejoicing over exclusive games is just about the apex of faggotry.
                    Yeah, but on one hand I still love exclusives. If it wasn't for them there would be no reason to have multiple consoles. I love the fact that I can only Play Uncharted on PS3. I love the fact that I can only play Gears on 360. I love the fact that I can only platy Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

                    Now I don't have a dog in this fight because I own all the consoles and can buy (and usually do) any game that comes out.

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                    • KNUBB
                      WHITE RONDO
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7973

                      #40
                      I'm glad I left this convo last night because I still see no facts coming from these dudes.


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                      • SethMode
                        Master of Mysticism
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 5754

                        #41
                        Originally posted by KNUBB
                        I'm glad I left this convo last night because I still see no facts coming from these dudes.
                        What are you talking about? Maynard was the only one arguing with you.

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                        • SethMode
                          Master of Mysticism
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 5754

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Twigg4075
                          Yeah, but on one hand I still love exclusives. If it wasn't for them there would be no reason to have multiple consoles. I love the fact that I can only Play Uncharted on PS3. I love the fact that I can only play Gears on 360. I love the fact that I can only platy Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

                          Now I don't have a dog in this fight because I own all the consoles and can buy (and usually do) any game that comes out.
                          I don't really understand that logic. Why does only being able to play a game on one console increase your affection for the game? Myself, I don't get any particular enjoyment out of owning multiple consoles, I just have a PS3 and 360 BECAUSE of exclusives. My life would be a lot easier (and less expensive) if I only had to buy one.

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                          • leaffan
                            Colton Orr Fan
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11082

                            #43
                            Originally posted by KNUBB
                            I'm glad I left this convo last night because I still see no facts coming from these dudes.
                            I posted the facts you should of posted a long time ago.

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                            • leaffan
                              Colton Orr Fan
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 11082

                              #44
                              For twigg that's just the info I pulled off Wikipedia about the game. it also says on there that the game uncompressed is just over 1TB lol. crazy id.

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                              • wingsfan77
                                Junior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3000

                                #45
                                I don't care about the audio in NCAA b/c that shit gets muted in favor of music anyway, I can't stand listening to the commentators in just about all sports games.

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