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  • Buzzman
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 6659

    Originally posted by Tailback U
    TV shows are obviously a common topic at the gym I work at. People are always looking for a new show to watch or talk about.

    I always tell them The Wire is the best show I've ever seen, but if you're looking for something wildly entertaining then you might not like it right now. There are certainly other shows out there that are more suspenseful, thrilling, and action-packed. I recommend Dexter or Breaking Bad.

    But if you want something very real, that is going to change the way you think and that you can actually take something from, then nothing comes close to The Wire.
    I used to recommend Dexter but now I don't want to be cruel and have them watch the 5th and 6th seasons.

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    • Palooza
      Au Revoir, Shoshanna
      • Feb 2009
      • 14265

      Originally posted by Buzzman
      I used to recommend Dexter but now I don't want to be cruel and have them watch the 5th and 6th seasons.
      Oh god. Don't get Omar started on his delusional rants of Dexter's greatness.

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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17875

        i tried watching this once before. i got about 4 shows in and stopped. it just didnt have any appeal to me. it seemed boring....but i downloaded it again today and want to find out what it is that i am missing.

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        • BrntO4Life
          My Aunt Ida Smokes.
          • Mar 2009
          • 6865

          Omar is a motherfucking showstopper. Most fascinating TV character ever.

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          • Palooza
            Au Revoir, Shoshanna
            • Feb 2009
            • 14265

            Originally posted by BrntO4Life
            Omar is a motherfucking showstopper. Most fascinating TV character ever.

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            • Tailback U
              No substitute 4 strength.
              • Nov 2008
              • 10282

              Originally posted by Buzzman
              I used to recommend Dexter but now I don't want to be cruel and have them watch the 5th and 6th seasons.
              Originally posted by Palooza
              Oh god. Don't get Omar started on his delusional rants of Dexter's greatness.
              It's still a good show. Your main gripe is that it has gotten silly and over the top unrealistic, but it's just as unrealistic as Breaking Bad, really.

              Shows about serial killers are going to be pretty silly, they have to be.

              And there's no way they'd be able to keep making the show better, there's only so many storylines you can run with and they've already used the best possible ones. No way can they top season 1 or the Trinity Killer season, so it's bound to disappoint eventually.

              I'm still intrigued by the character's psyche, that's why I still like the show, even though it has gotten downright silly.

              Another show I really liked was Homeland. Very realistic and well done, great acting, etc. I'm really interested in seeing how the series goes, it has the potential to be something amazing if they do it right.

              And obviously, Game Of Thrones is the best thing on TV right now.

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              • BrntO4Life
                My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                • Mar 2009
                • 6865

                My issue with Dexter is that the show is incredibly formulaic from season to season. It worked for the first 3 or 4, but I just can't run the hamster wheel anymore with it.

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                • Palooza
                  Au Revoir, Shoshanna
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 14265

                  Originally posted by BrntO4Life
                  My issue with Dexter is that the show is incredibly formulaic from season to season. It worked for the first 3 or 4, but I just can't run the hamster wheel anymore with it.
                  My problem with Dexter is that it;s still on TV. If it was smart, it would have done what Breaking Bad is doing and flesh out an entire story over the length of the show and understand that there needs to be an end. Breaking Bad is unpredictable. Dexter is possibly the most predictable show on TV.

                  Everything that happens with Dexter is the same, season by season. Dexter being Dexter. Introduce new antagonist. Slowly bring Dexter into antagonist's plans. Keep Dexter a step ahead and behind the killer simultaneously. Pretend Dexter is in danger. Kill antagonist. Rinse and repeat.

                  The show is terribly predictable. They've done all they can do with the show. Move on. Michael C Hall is an incredible actor and he is wasting himself with continuing on with this character. They've forced the show to rely on the villain in order to determine the quality of the season. Dexter will always be Dexter, the bad guy, on the other hand, has brought the show down in its awful seasons.

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                  • Palooza
                    Au Revoir, Shoshanna
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 14265

                    Also - Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire cannot be touched in terms of quality TV right now.

                    Nothing comes close, but I think Showtime is on the right track with Homeland, and Starz too with Boss.

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                    • Maynard
                      stupid ass titles
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 17875

                      Originally posted by Palooza

                      Everything that happens with Dexter is the same, season by season. Dexter being Dexter. Introduce new antagonist. Slowly bring Dexter into antagonist's plans. Keep Dexter a step ahead and behind the killer simultaneously. Pretend Dexter is in danger. Kill antagonist. Rinse and repeat.
                      i guess i didnt miss anything by not watching season 6

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                      • Tailback U
                        No substitute 4 strength.
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10282

                        Originally posted by Palooza
                        My problem with Dexter is that it;s still on TV. If it was smart, it would have done what Breaking Bad is doing and flesh out an entire story over the length of the show and understand that there needs to be an end. Breaking Bad is unpredictable. Dexter is possibly the most predictable show on TV.

                        Everything that happens with Dexter is the same, season by season. Dexter being Dexter. Introduce new antagonist. Slowly bring Dexter into antagonist's plans. Keep Dexter a step ahead and behind the killer simultaneously. Pretend Dexter is in danger. Kill antagonist. Rinse and repeat.

                        The show is terribly predictable. They've done all they can do with the show. Move on. Michael C Hall is an incredible actor and he is wasting himself with continuing on with this character. They've forced the show to rely on the villain in order to determine the quality of the season. Dexter will always be Dexter, the bad guy, on the other hand, has brought the show down in its awful seasons.
                        The "story" isn't what makes the show entertaining, Dexter's psyche and the inner conflicts that Dexter faces is the main focus of the show. Who he is after or trying to kill is almost irrelevant.

                        How he is going to balance trying to be a normal family man with his desire to kill people is the real story. Last season was about religion and how a serial killer might think when it comes to religion, how he is going to raise his child in terms of faith/god/etc.

                        It wasn't really about who he was after as much as it was about religion. Each season is about another psychological conflict that Dexter faces. That is what the show is about. It's not just about a guy who kills people.

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                        • Buzzman
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6659

                          Originally posted by Tailback U
                          It's still a good show. Your main gripe is that it has gotten silly and over the top unrealistic, but it's just as unrealistic as Breaking Bad, really.

                          Shows about serial killers are going to be pretty silly, they have to be.

                          And there's no way they'd be able to keep making the show better, there's only so many storylines you can run with and they've already used the best possible ones. No way can they top season 1 or the Trinity Killer season, so it's bound to disappoint eventually.

                          I'm still intrigued by the character's psyche, that's why I still like the show, even though it has gotten downright silly.

                          Another show I really liked was Homeland. Very realistic and well done, great acting, etc. I'm really interested in seeing how the series goes, it has the potential to be something amazing if they do it right.

                          And obviously, Game Of Thrones is the best thing on TV right now.
                          Just because a show is realistic doesn't make it good, otherwise primetime networks would rule the world with all their formulaic crap.

                          Dexter is a POS show now. Its boring, repetitive, and both seasons had some pretty crappy villains. The first few seasons worked well because it was still fresh, the protagonist was usually good and you will still learning about Dexter. When the show gets stale and the villains get crappy, you actually realize how shitty the side characters are on the show. Dexter might take the cake as the worst supporting cast in a tv show. Nobody brings anything good to the show. Even in its earlier seasons. The show still could be good if they actually wrote something worth a damn but they are lazy and with ratings at an all time high, they see no reason to stop.

                          Breaking Bad on the other is pretty realistic for the most part ( though I love the over the top awesonemness each season has had), but that's not what makes it great. What makes it great is the continuity it stayed with, the characters it has developed, and that their choices all of consequences. The consequence part is pretty big because Dexter used to be extremely OCD about his method and his choices, but these past seasons, he just does w/e he wants whenever he wants to do it.

                          BB and Dexter couldn't be any more opposite of each other.

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                          • Tailback U
                            No substitute 4 strength.
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10282

                            Originally posted by Buzzman
                            Just because a show is realistic doesn't make it good, otherwise primetime networks would rule the world with all their formulaic crap.

                            Dexter is a POS show now. Its boring, repetitive, and both seasons had some pretty crappy villains. The first few seasons worked well because it was still fresh, the protagonist was usually good and you will still learning about Dexter. When the show gets stale and the villains get crappy, you actually realize how shitty the side characters are on the show. Dexter might take the cake as the worst supporting cast in a tv show. Nobody brings anything good to the show. Even in its earlier seasons. The show still could be good if they actually wrote something worth a damn but they are lazy and with ratings at an all time high, they see no reason to stop.

                            Breaking Bad on the other is pretty realistic for the most part ( though I love the over the top awesonemness each season has had), but that's not what makes it great. What makes it great is the continuity it stayed with, the characters it has developed, and that their choices all of consequences. The consequence part is pretty big because Dexter used to be extremely OCD about his method and his choices, but these past seasons, he just does w/e he wants whenever he wants to do it.

                            BB and Dexter couldn't be any more opposite of each other.
                            Breaking Bad is pretty unrealistic. A chemistry teacher turns into a drug dealer and is taking out cartels with a two bit petty high school drop out as his side kick. Please.

                            Not only that, but the characters and acting are not all that great. Jesse is a horrible character, totally unbelievable and ridiculous, and a pretty shitty actor to boot.

                            They do have some good actors and characters and it is a good show, but it's hardly realistic. I do enjoy the show, but I don't like how people put it on this pedestal as if it's flawless.

                            Like I said, I don't really watch Dexter for the villains. I don't even think the show is about that when I think about the show.

                            I agree that the show should have ended a season or two ago but I'll continue to watch it because I want to see how they end it.

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                            • BrntO4Life
                              My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6865

                              Originally posted by Palooza
                              Also - Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire cannot be touched in terms of quality TV right now.

                              Nothing comes close, but I think Showtime is on the right track with Homeland, and Starz too with Boss.
                              *cough*Eastbound and Down*cough*

                              But you already knew this. I'll forgive you for forgetting.

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                              • Buzzman
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 6659

                                Originally posted by Tailback U
                                I agree that the show should have ended a season or two ago but I'll continue to watch it because I want to see how they end it.
                                Thats the only reason anybody is still watching it. They already but 6 seasons in why stop now.

                                But they process in which Walt became a Meth cooker is entirely plausible. Its not like he turned into some kingpin overnight. They took entire seasons advancing him to his current position.

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