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  • Kuzzy Powers
    Beautiful Like Moses
    • Oct 2008
    • 12542

    Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF

    and even these could be summed up with "the writing got very lazy".
    Actually, newfound P.I. Debra Morgan was supposed to be tracking Andrew Briggs — their relationship was part of the job, part Deb coping with the fact that she killed LaGuerta. And it might’ve worked if we hadn’t seen this exact same story before. Here’s how lazy the writers are: Deb’s Season 8 squeeze was Andrew Briggs. Her boyfriend in Seasons 3 and 4? Anton Briggs. It could be an intentional homage, but it’s nonsense either way.

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    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
      Highwayman
      • Feb 2009
      • 15429

      That treatment wasn't even close to the finale episode synopsis.

      Good to know the story of Dexter is a character arc of a Miami Forensic Blood Spatter Analysis by day, Serial Killer of Bad People by night and his transformation to...common loggerman.

      Thanks for eight years, Dexter...it was all worth it.

      /faggots
      //seriously, Dexter is the worst dad in the history of television.

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      • dave
        Go the fuck outside
        • Oct 2008
        • 15492

        Honestly, it's the best finale you can hope for, given the utter crappiness of the past few seasons.

         
        Killing Deb by season 4 would have given this series some hope.

        After Rita died, Dexter should have gone back to Dexter season 1 Dexter, but Harrison kinda ruined that.

        Honestly, they should have killed Deb in season 1 and kept Doakes alive a few more seasons.
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        • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
          Highwayman
          • Feb 2009
          • 15429

          Watching this show back to back with Breaking Bad makes you realize how ridiculous this show is.

          Its not fair to compare...but the shows have a ridiculously similar premise. Criminals hiding in plain sight. While Breaking Bad climaxes around the idea of the central characters actions having consequences...Dexter has no such consequence for seven seasons of wrong doing. Whatever Dexter did, no matter how obvious, it happened in a little bubble and no one was truly the wiser, and those that did find out, where openly accepting of Dexter and his lifestyle. Those that didn't accept were conveniently killed off and still, no one was the wiser, regardless of the proximity to other characters (seriously, both Doakes and LaGuerta accused, OPENLY, Dexter of being a murderer...both end up dead soon after and no one seems to connect the dots, even characters that were incredibly close to these characters...Batista, perhaps, who still has a box of LaGuerta's things at home...somewhere)...and the writers, by series end, do not even give fans the acknowledgment that maybe someone always knew about Dexter's shenanigans, but didn't care (Matthews would have been perfect for this in a series finale)...there is nothing...its all about Dexter's internal struggle...and the go-home segment is Dexter stealing his sister out of a hospital filled with police officers, loading her on a boat, and tossing her into the ocean, only to escape, cleanly, and end up in loggerjack country.

          Just an overall silly show and when put together side by side with a show with a similar premise that gets it "right" just shines a brighter light on how bad this show was. Terrible...F. There was legitimately, no payoff to anything this show ever did. Its like TNA booked this show.

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          • dave
            Go the fuck outside
            • Oct 2008
            • 15492

            Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
            Just an overall silly show and when put together side by side with a show with a similar premise that gets it "right" just shines a brighter light on how bad this show was. Terrible...F. There was legitimately, no payoff to anything this show ever did. Its like TNA booked this show.
            I get what you're saying Larry, but the first 4 seasons of Dexter, IMO, we're better than the first three seasons of Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, agreed, kicked ass in its later seasons than Dexter.
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            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
              Highwayman
              • Feb 2009
              • 15429

              Originally posted by dave
              I get what you're saying Larry, but the first 4 seasons of Dexter, IMO, we're better than the first three seasons of Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad, agreed, kicked ass in its later seasons than Dexter.
              Dexter has had some standout seasons, but issues that are really prevalent and noticeable in the bad seasons are still there in the better seasons of Dexter, too.

              Season 1 of Dexter is great TV, period.

              Season 2 was entertaining...very good television...mostly because the play off one another by Dexter and Doakes. Season 2 should have been a series finale type season...a lot of elements from the season should have been used to end the series. They spent the next 6 seasons chasing pretty much all of the elements of Season 2 to re-create them again. A FOIL for Dexter inside Miami PD (LaGuerta and Quinn), Dexter's faith in "The Code" (a constant shitty storyline), Debra's issues with men (every single season), Dexter finding a woman as flawed as he is to love (realization he loves Rita, Lumen, Hannah, etc)...Dexter Season 2 is the definition of blowing their load too soon...they spent the rest of the show's existence chasing nearly every element from this season and never caught the magic.

              Season 3 was the drizzling shits and no better than 5, 6, 7, and 8.

              Season 4 was great TV, but there are issues that make Dexter the drizzling shits prevalent in it, however, John Lithgow is such a force you can overlook it all, because fuck it, Lithgow's character is just so amazing it makes you forget about all the awfulness that is everything around he and Dexter. Also, the final scene was powerful and was legitimately, Dexter at its peak in popularity.

              Season 4 had shit like...

              -More unnecessary Debra romance drama...cheating on the black guy and getting with Lundy...again.
              -LaGuerta and Batista have nothing to do...lets put them together and have them get married.
              -Deb finds out that Dexter and Brian Mozer were brothers and Harry knew!

              Seriously...Season 4 is filled with shit...but who cares, John Lithgow as Arthur "The Trinity Killer" was so fucking good, none of it even mattered. They spent the rest of the show's existence trying to find someone capable enough to play off Dexter as well as Lithgow did as the seasonal big bad.

              ---

              As for Breaking Bad...its a powerhouse. Things that happened in S1E1 still matter and are very important in S5E17. The two as quality comparisons end with the premise of each show being about a criminal hiding in plain site...after that, they couldn't be more different, mostly, in quality and execution. Breaking Bad, by very definition of its being, is better, any season, than Dexter's best. Breaking Bad is a character study where no piece was ever bigger than the whole and every piece meant something to the greater sum of the series. Dexter isn't anything like that structurally. It SHOULD have been, but it wasn't, which is the point I was trying to make in even bringing up the comparison.

              Dexter being formulaic episodically with Kill of the Week type shit and seasonal Big Bads with secondary characters have poor stop and start pushes that never pay off.

              Breaking Bad, unlike any other TV show has led to some larger than life payoff that may never again be replicated. Its like comparing what New Japan is doing now, to TNA. Yeah, its still wrestling, but what they are doing couldn't be more different.
              Last edited by LiquidLarry2GhostWF; 09-23-2013, 12:59 AM.

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              • 1ke
                D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                • Mar 2009
                • 6641

                I liked it. I'm not gonna lie, nor defend it. Its a fucking show.

                 
                Dexter got his guy, pulled the plug on his sis, and dumped her body in the ocean as unbelievable as it was he got her to his boat. All in all, at the end he is still gonna do his thang, and his son and girl are safe and sound.

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  Originally posted by dave
                  I get what you're saying Larry, but the first 4 seasons of Dexter, IMO, we're better than the first three seasons of Breaking Bad.
                  No.

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                  • Goober
                    Needs a hobby
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12271

                    Batista: Dexter why were you even in the room? You don't even work here anymore.

                    Dexter: ...

                    Batista: He shot your sister, you shouldn't have been working the case anyways.

                    Dexter: I just wanted to make sure it was done by the book.

                    Batista: Oh that makes sense, this is clearly self defense so you are free to go.


                    That scene last night really highlighted how fucking the police force in Miami is.


                    Also what happened to Masuka and his daughter? The black cop? Babysitter's new job offer? I feel like there was no payoff for these important plotlines.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      Good call on Dexter's "interrogation". That murder investigation was 3 minutes long.

                      Also, Batista, the worst cop in the history of TV, is concerned about the conflict of interest of Deb's brother working the case, but has no issue with Deb's fiancee working it.

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                      • Kuzzy Powers
                        Beautiful Like Moses
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 12542

                        Also cool to note that Dexter is apparently a really, really strong swimmer.

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                        • dope
                          Allons-y!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2096

                          what sad is i defended this show to my wife saying "it might turn the corner" but after i read the synopsis for the finale, i tapped out.

                          kinda stupid considering i watched every episode every week until that moment, but enough was enough and having already knew how it would end just made it all seem so pointless, much like everything after season 4.

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                          • leaffan
                            Colton Orr Fan
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11082

                            Originally posted by dope
                            what sad is i defended this show to my wife saying "it might turn the corner" but after i read the synopsis for the finale, i tapped out.

                            kinda stupid considering i watched every episode every week until that moment, but enough was enough and having already knew how it would end just made it all seem so pointless, much like everything after season 4.
                            Couple things I've found on my internet travels today. After season 4 the head writer or producer left the show and the other interesting tidbit I found was this is one of the only tv shows running to have a majority female writing staff.

                            Leafs offseason training!

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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              Originally posted by dope
                              what sad is i defended this show to my wife saying "it might turn the corner" but after i read the synopsis for the finale, i tapped out.

                              kinda stupid considering i watched every episode every week until that moment, but enough was enough and having already knew how it would end just made it all seem so pointless, much like everything after season 4.
                              That reddit leak ended up being wrong. Go watch it, it was slightly less awful.

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                              • Palooza
                                Au Revoir, Shoshanna
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 14265

                                You are sneaky Larry because a Breaking Bad 5.17 DOES NOT EXIST unless its the pilot to BETTER CALL SAUL.

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