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Must have missed this thread the first go round. Good list. Really didn't disagree with much. Jouney was probably the only one that really caught me off guard. I'd also move Nickleback to #1 which is saying a lot considering how poorly I think of Limp Bizkit. Maybe it's cause its been a while since Limp Bizkit was relevant, but to me Nicleback is probably the worst thing to happen to music. Even more so than Limp Bizkit. Just pure awfulness.
Music is a tough subject. So objective. Generally I just go with the whatever floats your boat stance. I did think some great points were made in the discussion though.
I liked the debate on clueless fans vs. those who know good and bad music or musical talent. I think thats very true. I enjoy both Three Days Grace and Shinedown. Have just about every album from both and enjoy them. But really neither are that talented of musicians. Anyone arguing otherwise is nuts.
People have a tendency to think if they like a band, that band must be super talented. It's not usually the case. Doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them and continue to enjoy them though. You should listen to what you find to be enjoyable. Just don't be surprised if others dislike it and tear it apart. Numerous bands that I listen to or like have been blasted in this thread and most criticism was 100% fair or spot on. But at the end of the day, these bands (as untalented as they may be) make music that I enjoy listening to so I'm going to listen to them.
Something else worth mentioning is the clear effect that gaining mainstream recognition has on a band. So many of the bands mentioned in this thread either in the list or discussion are placed into the category of "They weren't that bad until they got popular" and I would agree with a lot of them. Don't get me wrong, I listen to tons of mainstream music but seriously, there is nothing that will kill a band's sound faster than gaining mainstream success. So many bands that I really enjoyed pre-mainstream are now simply meh. Disappointing.
Music is a tough subject. So objective. Generally I just go with the whatever floats your boat stance. I did think some great points were made in the discussion though.
I liked the debate on clueless fans vs. those who know good and bad music or musical talent. I think thats very true. I enjoy both Three Days Grace and Shinedown. Have just about every album from both and enjoy them. But really neither are that talented of musicians. Anyone arguing otherwise is nuts.
People have a tendency to think if they like a band, that band must be super talented. It's not usually the case. Doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them and continue to enjoy them though. You should listen to what you find to be enjoyable. Just don't be surprised if others dislike it and tear it apart. Numerous bands that I listen to or like have been blasted in this thread and most criticism was 100% fair or spot on. But at the end of the day, these bands (as untalented as they may be) make music that I enjoy listening to so I'm going to listen to them.
Something else worth mentioning is the clear effect that gaining mainstream recognition has on a band. So many of the bands mentioned in this thread either in the list or discussion are placed into the category of "They weren't that bad until they got popular" and I would agree with a lot of them. Don't get me wrong, I listen to tons of mainstream music but seriously, there is nothing that will kill a band's sound faster than gaining mainstream success. So many bands that I really enjoyed pre-mainstream are now simply meh. Disappointing.
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