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  • Sportsbuck
    Buckeye For Life
    • Dec 2008
    • 3045

    #16
    I really want to see this movie.

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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #17
      Leo is one of the best actors of my generation. His range is unparalleled.

      You wanna talk about overrated - talk about Christian Bale. That dude is the most overrated actor of our time. Outside of American Psycho, he hasn't given a performance worth mentioning.

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      • Palooza
        Au Revoir, Shoshanna
        • Feb 2009
        • 14265

        #18
        Originally posted by Tailback U
        Leo is one of the best actors of my generation. His range is unparalleled.

        You wanna talk about overrated - talk about Christian Bale. That dude is the most overrated actor of our time. Outside of American Psycho, he hasn't given a performance worth mentioning.
        the Machinist is good stuff, too, but overacting and overrated is reserved for CB.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #19
          Seeing this tomorrow night or on Sunday afternoon. Looking forward to it, but not getting my hopes up or expecting anything Oscar-quality... There's a reason this release was pushed back to early 2010. It's probably not gonna be that great, but solid and entertaining nonetheless.

          I'm expecting a solid 6-7 out of 10.

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          • Tailback U
            No substitute 4 strength.
            • Nov 2008
            • 10282

            #20
            Originally posted by Palooza
            the Machinist is good stuff, too, but overacting and overrated is reserved for CB.
            The Machinist is a good movie, but don't let Christian Bale's appearance fool you into thinking he did an amazing acting job. Acting wise, his role wasn't that difficult to play, and if there's one thing Bale can play it's a very quiet serious dude with anger/mental problems.

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            • Buzzman
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 6659

              #21
              lol at saying his role was easy to do. So anyone could have been thrown into his role and the movie would be fine, no problamo. I hate when people say that. Hes not really overrated theres a reason Nolan picked him as Batman and chose to stay with him for The Pretiege. Really the only thing hes done wrong is Terminator Salvation but thats because the movie overall was complete shit.
              Last edited by Buzzman; 02-20-2010, 10:54 AM.

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              • bcransom
                Kurtzpalm
                • Jan 2010
                • 749

                #22
                Come on. I'll give you the rest but The Newsies was a fucking lame plot combined with poor acting all around. It bombed in the box office, and Bale was NOT good in it. His singing was absolutely horrendous and his Brooklyn accent he tried to put on was a total failure.

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                • Buzzman
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6659

                  #23
                  Sauceman, you forgot Rescue Dawn. Not only was Bale good in that one but Steve Zahn, the comedic actor, showed off some skills.

                   
                  When he got his head chopped off, i sat in shock

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                  • bcransom
                    Kurtzpalm
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 749

                    #24
                    And I'm saddened you didn't mention Henry V OR Empire of the Sun.

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                    • Tailback U
                      No substitute 4 strength.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10282

                      #25
                      LOL @ you posting his diet when I specifically said:

                      The Machinist is a good movie, but don't let Christian Bale's appearance fool you into thinking he did an amazing acting job. Acting wise, his role wasn't that difficult to play, and if there's one thing Bale can play it's a very quiet serious dude with anger/mental problems.
                      If Bale wasn't rail thin, would anyone have even thought his performance in the Machinist was that good? I know I wouldn't. Nothing about his acting jumped out at me, he's played that type of role before, he was just rail thin so everyone thinks he did an amazing acting job, which is stupid.

                      Originally posted by Sauceman
                      Yeah that doesn't seem very difficult to do. And it's not like he's been in some excellent movies where his performances were praised such as:

                      Newsies
                      American Psycho
                      Equilibrium
                      The Machinist
                      The Prestige
                      3:10 to Yuma
                      What was great about his characters in any of these movies outside of American Psycho? None of them were jawbreaking or extraordinary. He plays a serious, sinister, somewhat quiet and angry character in each of these movies other than American Psycho. There is no range in his acting.
                      And other excellent films such as:

                      Batman Begins
                      The Dark Night
                      Public Enemies
                      Again, a very serious, monotonous character in each of these. Little emotion showed in any of these roles. He is average when it comes to on-screen emotion. And Public Enemies was shitty.
                      Last edited by Tailback U; 02-20-2010, 03:24 PM.

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                      • Tailback U
                        No substitute 4 strength.
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10282

                        #26
                        Esquire magazine has an interview with Leonardo DiCaprio in this month's issue that is pretty cool to read.

                        DiCaprio Interview - Leonardo Dicaprio on His Films and Nude Scene with Kate Winslet - Esquire

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                        • Tailback U
                          No substitute 4 strength.
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10282

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Sauceman
                          Well yeah, obviously you wouldn't. But what's your explanation for this 'most overrated actor of all time' being in so many great films...despite him? I'd think if he was mediocre these roles would have gone to someone else. And no one here said his range parallels the likes of Di Caprio or Depp. However, is he a great actor? I certainly think so and see no proof to feel otherwise.
                          So many great films? According to who? Certainly not me.

                          American Psycho was definitely great - one of my favorite films.

                          Batman Begins was great. Bale did a solid job here.

                          The Dark Knight can be considered great by some - not by me - and only because of Heath Ledger, not Bale.

                          Not to mention, Bale is not even close to being the best Batman ever. Those movies are great because of the story. The fact that Bale is literally hiding behind a mask and a costume for the majority of the movie proves that those movies were good despite him - definitely not because of him. Honestly, in my opinion, he was a shitty Bruce Wayne. He lacks the charisma, arrogance, and wit that Bruce Wayne should have. As Batman, who gives a fuck. He was behind a mask and grumbled all his parts. Anybody can do that.

                          I was exaggerating with "most overrated actor of all time." I moreso meant that Bale has no range and lacks any on screen charisma, wit, and humor. He can play one role and one role only.

                          Bale is very limited in what he can do. He picks and chooses his roles very carefully and it's important he does so or he will be exposed. Hell, Hugh Jackman was the star of the Prestige, and Russell Crowe of 3:10 to Yuma. Bale can only play a serious role with little to no real emotion.

                          How can you call an actor who lacks range a "great" actor? A great actor, in my opinion, has range and personality. Bale has none, therefore there is no way I can think of him as a great actor.

                          Bale probably wouldn't even make my top 10 actors, yet I hear so many people calling him a great actor and one of the best actors out there.

                          Lastly, nobody can prove anything. This is all preference. You have yours, I have mine. We can agree to disagree and it's all fine by me.
                          Last edited by Tailback U; 02-20-2010, 09:56 PM.

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                          • Tailback U
                            No substitute 4 strength.
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10282

                            #28
                            I decided to go ahead and come up with a list of actors I think are better than Christian Bale.

                            Brad Pitt
                            Tom Cruise
                            George Clooney
                            Robert Downey Jr.
                            Phillip Seymour Hoffman
                            Leonardo DiCaprio
                            Jack Nicholson
                            Denzel Washington
                            Meryl Streep
                            Russell Crowe
                            Sean Penn
                            William Hurt
                            Daniel Day Lewis
                            Johnny Depp
                            Mel Gibson
                            Kevin Spacey
                            John Malkovich

                            This is right off the top of my head so I'm sure I'm leaving other people out. There are others like Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, Matt Damon, Samuel L., etc. that I think are more talented than Bale but don't grab me like the guys mentioned above do.

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                            • bcransom
                              Kurtzpalm
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 749

                              #29
                              Just saw it. Creepy movie, wouldn't really recommend it but I suppose it was worth seeing. Nothing we haven't seen from DiCaprio or Scorsese.

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                              • Buzzman
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 6659

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tailback U
                                I decided to go ahead and come up with a list of actors I think are better than Christian Bale.

                                Brad Pitt
                                Tom Cruise
                                George Clooney
                                Robert Downey Jr.
                                Phillip Seymour Hoffman
                                Leonardo DiCaprio
                                Jack Nicholson
                                Denzel Washington
                                Meryl Streep
                                Russell Crowe
                                Sean Penn
                                William Hurt
                                Daniel Day Lewis
                                Johnny Depp
                                Mel Gibson
                                Kevin Spacey
                                John Malkovich

                                This is right off the top of my head so I'm sure I'm leaving other people out. There are others like Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, Matt Damon, Samuel L., etc. that I think are more talented than Bale but don't grab me like the guys mentioned above do.
                                THANK YOU FOR A GREAT LAUGH, havent laughed that hard in a while.

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