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  • EQ_Hate
    Noob
    • Jul 2012
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    • Maynard
      stupid ass titles
      • Feb 2009
      • 17876

      well, to give credibility to the idea that Gretchen Black Schwartz (GB) gave Walt the book Leaves of Grass, you would have to watch Season 3 Episode 6 - Sunset

      Walt and Gale have there first meeting and cook. At the end of the cook they are toasting wine and Gale tells Walt what led him to the business. He mentions "the old Walt Whitman Poem" And Walt is not familiar with it so Gale recites it and ends the scene.

      The very next scene has Hank staking out Pinkmans house and Marie calls him and suggests Hank call Walt for some insider info going back to when they thought Walt was buying weed from Pinkman. Hank then calls Walt who is sitting in his chair reading Leaves of Grass.

      based on the timing there is no way Gale could have given Walt that book with that note inside. They had just finished cooking and Gale wouldnt have had time to get a book and write a note like that...the note stated his other favorite WW. No way Walt could be a favorite WW to Gale that quickly. But also the time kills it too because Hank has been sitting on Jesse round the clock and this scene takes place in the early evening after Gale and Walt finished the cook earlier that day. Gale would have had to gone out and gotten the book and given it to Walt with a your my favorite note inside.....not likely at all

      That book had to of come from Gretchen

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      • Ravin
        Dishing the Gino's
        • Feb 2009
        • 6994

        Imagine if you put this much thought into productive things in your life.

        All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

        "rammer" and "cummings"

        The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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        • citizenerased
          Rugby World Cup Champion
          • Mar 2009
          • 1580

          Originally posted by Maynard
          well, to give credibility to the idea that Gretchen Black Schwartz (GB) gave Walt the book Leaves of Grass, you would have to watch Season 3 Episode 6 - Sunset

          Walt and Gale have there first meeting and cook. At the end of the cook they are toasting wine and Gale tells Walt what led him to the business. He mentions "the old Walt Whitman Poem" And Walt is not familiar with it so Gale recites it and ends the scene.

          The very next scene has Hank staking out Pinkmans house and Marie calls him and suggests Hank call Walt for some insider info going back to when they thought Walt was buying weed from Pinkman. Hank then calls Walt who is sitting in his chair reading Leaves of Grass.

          based on the timing there is no way Gale could have given Walt that book with that note inside. They had just finished cooking and Gale wouldnt have had time to get a book and write a note like that...the note stated his other favorite WW. No way Walt could be a favorite WW to Gale that quickly. But also the time kills it too because Hank has been sitting on Jesse round the clock and this scene takes place in the early evening after Gale and Walt finished the cook earlier that day. Gale would have had to gone out and gotten the book and given it to Walt with a your my favorite note inside.....not likely at all

          That book had to of come from Gretchen
          And?

          I don't get this debate over where the book came from, who gives a shit. Walt could've got it from Gary Busey and it wouldn't change a damn thing. All that is important is that now the pieces have now clicked for Hank and once he gets a theory in his head he will follow it without a shred of evidence and with or without official support.
          Don't Sit Down 'Cause I've Moved Your Chair

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          • Maynard
            stupid ass titles
            • Feb 2009
            • 17876

            Originally posted by Ravin
            Imagine if you put this much thought into productive things in your life.

            if you think this is alot of thought then you are a feeble mind

            Originally posted by citizenerased
            And?

            I don't get this debate over where the book came from, who gives a shit. Walt could've got it from Gary Busey and it wouldn't change a damn thing. All that is important is that now the pieces have now clicked for Hank and once he gets a theory in his head he will follow it without a shred of evidence and with or without official support.
            if you dont get the debate of where the book came from perhaps you should go and read the last 2-3 pages of this thread to better understand the conversation.

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            • Ravin
              Dishing the Gino's
              • Feb 2009
              • 6994

              Maynard has spent to much time in the workout thread. He is trying his best Rossetta impression.
              All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

              "rammer" and "cummings"

              The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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              • riley420
                You're goddamned right.
                • Feb 2009
                • 2331

                Originally posted by Maynard
                well, to give credibility to the idea that Gretchen Black Schwartz (GB) gave Walt the book Leaves of Grass, you would have to watch Season 3 Episode 6 - Sunset

                Walt and Gale have there first meeting and cook. At the end of the cook they are toasting wine and Gale tells Walt what led him to the business. He mentions "the old Walt Whitman Poem" And Walt is not familiar with it so Gale recites it and ends the scene.

                The very next scene has Hank staking out Pinkmans house and Marie calls him and suggests Hank call Walt for some insider info going back to when they thought Walt was buying weed from Pinkman. Hank then calls Walt who is sitting in his chair reading Leaves of Grass.

                based on the timing there is no way Gale could have given Walt that book with that note inside. They had just finished cooking and Gale wouldnt have had time to get a book and write a note like that...the note stated his other favorite WW. No way Walt could be a favorite WW to Gale that quickly. But also the time kills it too because Hank has been sitting on Jesse round the clock and this scene takes place in the early evening after Gale and Walt finished the cook earlier that day. Gale would have had to gone out and gotten the book and given it to Walt with a your my favorite note inside.....not likely at all

                That book had to of come from Gretchen
                This show isn't Lost. Gilligan doesn't leave obvious clues without reason.

                Gale gave him the book. Here's why:

                1) As you said, the recited poem. Walt Whitman, who's work was relatively unknown to our Walt.

                2) Gale was OBSESSED with Walt, from the second they met. Gale basically gave him a BJ at the end of their first shift together.

                3) Gale had no friends. His life was his work, and he thought he was alone in his passions. Nobody...NOBODY who has any real friends would let them make a video like that. He finally meets someone who could be his mentor, someone he's been told about, and finds he has something he can share with his new "friend." This is why Gale is so heartbroken when Walt fires him so soon.

                4) If the book were from Gretchen, he would have burned it long ago. Something that personal would remind him every day about his colossal blunder, and his ego wouldn't be able to handle that. Why would the book be signed, "...an honour to work with you"? They were engaged.

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                • Twigg4075
                  Kindergarten Cop
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 20056

                  Originally posted by riley420

                  2) Gale was OBSESSED with Walt, from the second they met. Gale basically gave him a BJ at the end of their first shift together.
                  That's exactly what I said.

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                  • Maynard
                    stupid ass titles
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 17876

                    Originally posted by Ravin
                    Maynard has spent to much time in the workout thread. He is trying his best Rossetta impression.
                    im sorry if you are having a hard time keeping up

                    Originally posted by riley420
                    This show isn't Lost. Gilligan doesn't leave obvious clues without reason.

                    Gale gave him the book. Here's why:

                    1) As you said, the recited poem. Walt Whitman, who's work was relatively unknown to our Walt.

                    2) Gale was OBSESSED with Walt, from the second they met. Gale basically gave him a BJ at the end of their first shift together.

                    3) Gale had no friends. His life was his work, and he thought he was alone in his passions. Nobody...NOBODY who has any real friends would let them make a video like that. He finally meets someone who could be his mentor, someone he's been told about, and finds he has something he can share with his new "friend." This is why Gale is so heartbroken when Walt fires him so soon.

                    4) If the book were from Gretchen, he would have burned it long ago. Something that personal would remind him every day about his colossal blunder, and his ego wouldn't be able to handle that. Why would the book be signed, "...an honour to work with you"? They were engaged.
                    i think you might see things a bit differently if you watched the show from season 3. Who would remember these details? the only reason i know them is because i just watched the show and its sticking out because of this discussion on the book. But when you watch it again you realize that there is no way the book could have come from Gale. You think after 1 shift of working with Walt Gale would right away be calling Walt his other favorite WW? no fucking way

                    im just saying that these things give credibility to the idea that Gale did not give him the book. And if he did, that just shows a gaping hole in the plot, which isnt uncommon for this show....buts thats a very big hole...watch the show and you will see....season 3 episode 6

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                    • Ravin
                      Dishing the Gino's
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 6994

                      Keeping up with what. You overlooking a fucking TV show? Aren't you the same idiot who was scanning images of handwriting to see if it was the same? Sorry, I have much better stuff to do with my time then figure out if Gale in a TV show wrote the same notes. Clearly you do not.


                      And if you are going to be Rossetta, you need to add a couple faggots in there.
                      All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                      "rammer" and "cummings"

                      The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                      • Maynard
                        stupid ass titles
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 17876

                        Originally posted by Ravin
                        Keeping up with what. You overlooking a fucking TV show? Aren't you the same idiot who was scanning images of handwriting to see if it was the same? Sorry, I have much better stuff to do with my time then figure out if Gale in a TV show wrote the same notes. Clearly you do not.
                        oh no a revenge groan from raven...do you need a tissue?

                        if you dont want to be apart of the discussion, then why are you reading my posts and making idiotic comments? I didnt start this conversation about who gave walt the book, i was simply adding to its validity. Why you feel the need to troll a discussion you claim you dont care about is beyond me...but then again you have already shown how simple minded you are.

                        so much for that you have better things to do comment you made....lol.... If you have so many better things to do then go do it.

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                        • Maynard
                          stupid ass titles
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 17876

                          Originally posted by Ravin
                          And if you are going to be Rossetta, you need to add a couple faggots in there.
                          how am I being rosetta? you said that twice now and i am lost as to why these 2 comments i made give off the impression to you that i am trying to be rosetta?

                          Originally posted by Maynard
                          if you think this is alot of thought then you are a feeble mind
                          Originally posted by Maynard
                          im sorry if you are having a hard time keeping up
                          these comments dont mimic him in any way

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                          • Palooza
                            Au Revoir, Shoshanna
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 14265

                            Maynard, shut up -

                            Originally posted by Vince Gilligan
                            Way back when, when Gale gave Walt the book, it is there, in that episode where Gale talks to Walt about Walt Whitman, he recites the poem, “When I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer,” and the next scene we see after their first cook together is Walt reading that very book. To be honest, at the time we came up with that episode two seasons back, we were not thinking about that book playing in the very important way that it plays. But having said that, it seems to fit right in. It was always in our mind that that was a gift from Gale, so we figured why wouldn’t he have written something like that?

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                            • NAHSTE
                              Probably owns the site
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 22233

                              Originally posted by Palooza
                              Maynard, shut up -
                              I love how that interview was up a day after the finale but it hasn't stopped mooks on the internet from speculating on it for two weeks.

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                              • Ravin
                                Dishing the Gino's
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 6994

                                Originally posted by Palooza
                                Maynard, shut up -
                                All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                                "rammer" and "cummings"

                                The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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