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The difference between the community and critics, is that the community has only one perspective: usually a retarded one. Do I care if Steven Seagal takes down 20 guys at the same time without getting touched? No. Does that make the movie good? No. It makes you a fucking idiot.
Critics have more than one perspective, which is what I ask from any person who recommends a movie to me. Just because ''Lost in translation'' is one of my favorite movies of all-time, does that mean ''Lost in translation'' will be on my greatest movies ever made list? No. Just because I laughed five times during ''Spaceballs,'' does that make ''Spaceballs'' one of the best comedies ever made? No. I didn't like ''Mystic River,'' do I think it's a bad movie? No.
So, again, if critics believe that their opinion is more important than the typical movie fan, I sure as hell won't disagree with them... Especially when a dumbass tells me ''Super Troopers'' is a great comedy, and ''Scream'' is the greatest slasher movie ever made. If ''Scream'' is your favorite movie of all-time, I won't say anything.. but to say it's the greatest anything, is borderline retarded.Comment
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Rotten Tomatoes is solid, but like all movie critics, they will pan some good movies, because they fall under the "I want to be entertained comedy" and the "popcorn action" movies. I like a lot of those movies a lot, just because I want to unwind and watch something I can enjoy and don't have to follow a lot.Comment
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The thing with Scream though is just how well constructed it was. They hype the shit out of Berrymore, she's the center of a bunch of interviews, posters, everything. What do they do 5 minutes into the movie? They brutally kill her, pulling one hell of a bait and switch. Then they continue on completely mocking its own genre, while still having the benefit of taking itself seriously. It is one of the rare films that not only can make you laugh off smartly written dialogue, but builds tension and can still be scary. A lot of thing s factor into how you view the film, but upon its release anyone who saw it should have a hard time saying it wasn't a kick ass slasher that rejuvenated an entire genre back into life. You may disagree on my opniion, its fine. I'd have a hard time finding someone else who enjoys the first Scream as much as I, but I at least have good reasoning on why i loved it so much. I grew up during a time when the most current slasher flicks were shitty Jason and Michael Myer sequels, so when Scream comes along its going to leave a far different impact on me rather then someone who grew up during its heyday.Comment
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as a person who likes both of those movies, I will agree they are not the best of anything not even in their respective genres, however you have to look at #1 the person who said it may not have the extensive knowledge of comedy and horror movies to be able to make a qualified opinion(this goes with your love of critics who have seen enough movies in those genres to make that statement) or #2 they are both entertaining movies that people including myself like and would recommend to others maybe not under the title best but certainly under title of you should see if you like those genres.Comment
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And for the last time...
''Possibly the earliest film that could be called a slasher, Thirteen Women (1932) tells the story of an old college sorority whose former members are set against one another by a vengeful peer, seeking penance for the prejudice they bestowed on her because of her mixed race heritage. Another film important to the sub-genre is Michael Powell's Peeping Tom (1960). The film's plot centers around a man who kills women while using a portable movie camera to record their dying expressions. The film was immensely controversial when first released; critics called it misogynistic (as would critics condemn the slasher films during its golden age).[citation needed] Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho (1960), released three months after Peeping Tom, is described as 'the mother of all slasher films'[citation needed] and is the first true slasher film''
Are we all in agreement now?Comment
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"Citation needed" right in your paragraph
come on man what are we doing here, "described as" described as who, did Hitchcock call it a slasher film?
This is sort of like the whole what is Heavy Metal, people will tell you the first Heavy Metal song is Born to be Wild because the words Heavy Metal are in it. Bottom line is you can debate the genre of Heavy Metal just as you can debate the Genre Slasher movie but in the end I am not sure there is a definitive answer.Comment
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LOL at Nuk's movie critic trolling.
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Somewhat on subject I'm partial to the original Halloween as the best slasher film.
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On subject, I never listen to critics about movies, or communities. I'm interested in hearing reviews about movies from people but don't go and see movies based on those reviews.Comment
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''Halloween was produced on a budget of $320,000 and grossed $47.3 million at the box office in the United States,[1] and $60 million worldwide,[2] equivalent to over $203 million as of 2010, becoming one of the most profitable independent films.[1] Many critics credit the film as the first in a long line of slasher films inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho (1960). ''
You're right, ''Halloween'' is a slasher film, too.. but still not on par with ''Psycho.''
What you constitue as slasher, doesn't mean jack shit. The fact remains, ''Psycho'' is a slasher film, and the best of its kind. If we're going to nit-pick, then ''Scream'' isn't a slasher either, it's a comedy, IMO.Comment
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Who cares what it was inspired by? Just because it was "inspired by" the film doesn't mean it can't be better. ie Goodfella's>Godfather in some people's opinions. In music Johnny Cash's "Hurt" was a remake of a NIN song but even Reznor admitted Cash's version was better.Comment
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aww man. Good to have Nuk back.Comment
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Halloween is your favorite? Interesting. I always thought it was a great slasher but boring as shit.Comment
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